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Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:17 PM ET
The words "playoffs" come out of Danos and Debs mouths way too often too.
- Mr.Bobby


This is tough to watch
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 16 @ 9:19 PM ET
This game is borderline unwatchable.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 16 @ 9:19 PM ET
This is tough to watch
- Senor_Elias



You took the words right from my mouth
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:20 PM ET
This game is borderline unwatchable.
- Mr.Bobby

It's like you know the devils aren't gonna score
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:22 PM ET
Mozik is a right shot, who you gonna sit, Severson? Santini? Lovejoy is an ex Pen so he isn't gonna sit. Mozik may also never be a NHL dman. The Devil have too many bottom pair guys guys just like Mozik with more experience, Moore, Merrill, Helgeson. I don't think he will beat them out for the same job, considering they are trying to make the playoffs and they are all around the same age, with more experience.

Let's say they got someone like Fowler, for example, Mozik would then still compete with Merrill, Moore, Santini, Helgeson for then only 2 spots. There are only 3 spots right now and he still isn't getting called up.

- Devils9503

Fair. Be that as it may, but a decent 28 year old Dman is not the solution here or there. We need big moves a la Hall or to suck. No in between.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 16 @ 9:24 PM ET
It's like you know the devils aren't gonna score
- willschulme



Our luck they will get a late lucky goal and get the overtime loss loser point, keeping them further in mediocrity.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 16 @ 9:27 PM ET
Our luck they will get a late lucky goal and get the overtime loss loser point, keeping them further in mediocrity.
- Mr.Bobby



Nevermind
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:28 PM ET
Nevermind
- Mr.Bobby

Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Feb 16 @ 9:28 PM ET
Fair. Be that as it may, but a decent 28 year old Dman is not the solution here or there. We need big moves a la Hall or to suck. No in between.
- willschulme


But we ARE currently in the middle. Not sucking. And a move like that may not happen again. We don't have the assets to pull that off again. You also need guys better then what we currently have and I think Smith is and is still young.

The Devils should not move their 1st, and the 2nds I don't know if I would trade one. Maybe trade 1 to move up into the late 1st round. I haven't seen anything about Shero shopping Cam, which he should, or shopping Greene, which he should.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:30 PM ET
3-0 sens
- shvingter88

You're going to be right
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 16 @ 9:35 PM ET
But we ARE currently in the middle. Not sucking. And a move like that may not happen again. We don't have the assets to pull that off again. You also need guys better then what we currently have and I think Smith is and is still young.

The Devils should not move their 1st, and the 2nds I don't know if I would trade one. Maybe trade 1 to move up into the late 1st round. I haven't seen anything about Shero shopping Cam, which he should, or shopping Greene, which he should.

- Devils9503



Don't let the standings misguide you. Loser points are still losses. This team is 24 and 33 now. They are the 2nd lowest scoring team in the league, least amount of shots on goal in the league and allow 31 shots against per game. This team is 10 loser points and an elite goalie away from being the laughing stock of the league.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 16 @ 9:37 PM ET
2-1 Devils, more meaningless points.
- Mr.Bobby

13th pick
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 16 @ 9:38 PM ET
You're going to be right
- willschulme

Duh
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:38 PM ET
Don't let the standings misguide you. Loser points are still losses. This team is 24 and 33 now. They are the 2nd lowest scoring team in the league, least amount of shots on goal in the league and allow 31 shots against per game. This team is 10 loser points and an elite goalie away from being the laughing stock of the league.
- Mr.Bobby


Don't tell Hallsy that
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 16 @ 9:38 PM ET
13th pick
- shvingter88



DESTINY!!!!
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 16 @ 9:40 PM ET
DESTINY!!!!
- Mr.Bobby

DOOMED
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Feb 16 @ 9:41 PM ET
Don't let the standings misguide you. Loser points are still losses. This team is 24 and 33 now. They are the 2nd lowest scoring team in the league, least amount of shots on goal in the league and allow 31 shots against per game. This team is 10 loser points and an elite goalie away from being the laughing stock of the league.
- Mr.Bobby


Yes, but Shero should trade now. Not in 2-3 weeks. Shero kept Schmelko last year for whatever reason. Teams are desperate to make moves, but everyone is so close even if it is misguided.

I disagree with people who say the draft isn't deep, there are players are good and if the Devils get within the top 8 Tippett should probably be on their list to get. I'm not overly big on Tippett, but the guy is big and can score goals. He's probably the best goal scorer in the draft. Try desperately to get another 1st, since guys think it's a weak draft, then draft a dman, or maybe Yamamoto. Tippett and Yamamoto would greatly increase this team's future on offense.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 16 @ 9:41 PM ET
DOOMED
- shvingter88



Any "two way centers" you want to pick at #13?
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:44 PM ET
5 more games before deadline, 4 at home vs NYI NYR OTT and MTL..Shero should just start selling now, those outcomes don't matter
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 16 @ 9:46 PM ET
5 more games before deadline, 4 at home vs NYI NYR OTT and MTL..Shero should just start selling now, those outcomes don't matter
- Senor_Elias



I'll say this, he's made some good deadline deals by holding out until the bitter end.

Stempniak 2nd and 4th and Gelinas 3rd. If you told me a month before the deadline that we would get a 2nd, 3rd and 4th for Stemp and Gelly I would have jumped at it.


Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:47 PM ET
Yes, but Shero should trade now. Not in 2-3 weeks. Shero kept Schmelko last year for whatever reason. Teams are desperate to make moves, but everyone is so close even if it is misguided.

I disagree with people who say the draft isn't deep, there are players are good and if the Devils get within the top 8 Tippett should probably be on their list to get. I'm not overly big on Tippett, but the guy is big and can score goals. He's probably the best goal scorer in the draft. Try desperately to get another 1st, since guys think it's a weak draft, then draft a dman, or maybe Yamamoto. Tippett and Yamamoto would greatly increase this team's future on offense.

- Devils9503


Would love Tippett if we are picking 7-10
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
I'll say this, he's made some good deadline deals by holding out until the bitter end.

Stempniak 2nd and 4th and Gelinas 3rd. If you told me a month before the deadline that we would get a 2nd, 3rd and 4th for Stemp and Gelly I would have jumped at it.

- Mr.Bobby


Did very well, no major complaints with sheep during his tenure so far for me

Shero*
ElvisLemieux
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 08.08.2006

Feb 16 @ 9:57 PM ET
I'll say this, he's made some good deadline deals by holding out until the bitter end.

Stempniak 2nd and 4th and Gelinas 3rd. If you told me a month before the deadline that we would get a 2nd, 3rd and 4th for Stemp and Gelly I would have jumped at it.

- Mr.Bobby


Good point. If Anaheim and Carolina shed a D man each, and early on, Ben Lovejoy might look like Chris Pronger to some teams.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Feb 16 @ 9:58 PM ET
I'll say this, he's made some good deadline deals by holding out until the bitter end.

Stempniak 2nd and 4th and Gelinas 3rd. If you told me a month before the deadline that we would get a 2nd, 3rd and 4th for Stemp and Gelly I would have jumped at it.

- Mr.Bobby


Yeah, but Gelly wasn't really doing anything with us so getting rid of him was not problem for Shero. Stempniak had 16 goals and 40 points when he was traded. Henrique has the team lead with 15.

Cam 10 goals, 30 points. Parenteau 13 goals, 25 points. Quincey 4 goals, 12 points. Those are probably the most likely to get traded unless like DSP was, but the last two most likely will and they are not bringing back 2nds with those stats. I would be fine with a 3rd or 2 3rds for Parenteau and a 3rd for Quincey. I doubt they get us more.

Or instead of the picks prospects, depending on who they are, but most likely the picks would be more appealing.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 17 @ 5:23 AM ET
Any "two way centers" you want to pick at #13?
- Mr.Bobby

Elias Petterson or Martin Necas
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