#Sabres #Avs game packed with scouts. #Leafs with 3 including Kyle Dubas (assistant GM). #CBJ #Habs #LAKings #NHLJets #Flames have 2 each.

Looks like we bailed big time. Appears to be a wise decision.

Watching the Blows-Canucks game. Referees are just terrible at looking on that I-Pad at challenged plays. The identical play as the Hawks-Minn game where Parise didn't clear the zone happened when the Blows player didn't exit before the puck came back in. And of course, a goal. Even the almighty Panger was saying off-sides...as obvious as in the Hawks game. Unbelievable they got it wrong again. Got to get bigger I-Pads or give the refs magnifying glasses whenever they look. Horrible. Can't Toronto overturn that? Or at least correct the obvious mistake?
- Matt_Foleys_bro

Scrap the whole thing it's not worth it.

Way off topic, but does anyone here use the NHL Gamecenter on Playstation VUE? If so, how does it work. I'm looking to reduce the cost that I am paying DirecTV.
- spudrock512

If you are using a Playstation, there is a direct app with DVR like functionality - it is excellent! Even shows events and goals in a timeline, if you are so inclined to see.


I tried Gamecenter on Apple TV and Roku as well. It is more simplified and not as smooth with rewinding, navigating, and finding things, but it works.

Watching the Blows-Canucks game. Referees are just terrible at looking on that I-Pad at challenged plays. The identical play as the Hawks-Minn game where Parise didn't clear the zone happened when the Blows player didn't exit before the puck came back in. And of course, a goal. Even the almighty Panger was saying off-sides...as obvious as in the Hawks game. Unbelievable they got it wrong again. Got to get bigger I-Pads or give the refs magnifying glasses whenever they look. Horrible. Can't Toronto overturn that? Or at least correct the obvious mistake?
- Matt_Foleys_bro

Turn on Pens and Jets, that game is nasty like old time hockey. Jets have sent 3 Pens to the dressing room and Malkin just cold cocked Wheeler with a huge hit.

Mercy!
- EbonyRaptor

Your inner Hawk Harrelson is coming out!

Here's my take on Shalunov and it's not any more over the top than my naturally optimistic attitude shapes my opinion on many of the Hawks prospects. I see Shalunov as a player who is older now and playing much better than he did when he spit the bit playing in North America a few years ago. He has good size and shoots the puck. I have no idea how good or bad he will be in the NHL and neither does anyone else. But I do know he wouldn't cost the Hawks any assets to sign and his ELC wouldn't be cost prohibitive so I see it as a no lose situation for the Hawks. If he signs and he can be an effective NHL player - then happy days. If he still sucks - then no big deal and we move on.
- EbonyRaptor

That's my line of thinking as well. Didn't the Hawks do this with college free agents like Baun and LeBlanc? They got signed and went straight to the starting lineup without spending time in the AHL. They eventually played their way to the farm, but point being they still were given a chance to play until proven otherwise. Why not try this out with Shalunov or Shipachyov or that Minnesota Golden Gopher that JJ mentioned a few blogs ago? Justin Kloos, I think.

this is my last post on MS: please tell me were my statments were inacurate.
1)If a forward leads his team in ice time by a Substantial margin in 2 back to back OT losses that would generally lead you to believe the coach thinks he is his best forward? true or false?
2)In general the smaller ice is harder on smaller players or bigger players?
3)if a player leads the KHL in SOG per game over 2 years would you consider him elite for that league for putting SOG?

I said last year when you looked at paniks #'s it pointed to him being able to score 20 goals and be Middle six forward and people did not agree with me. turns out I was correct. I based it on the eye test and digging into his numbers and his TOI and oppurtunity.

If you look MS, Size, how much his coach plays him, and how he is able to consistently put shots on Goal in a league that we can call tied for 2nd that means he has a possibility to succced at the NHL level.

for the people that are tired of me posting the khl standings and KHL stats in regard to 1 of our prospects I'm sorry. I never said he was a the next coming of PAN. All I was saying is people said Pan was not the next coming of Kane and he would struggle as well.
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BTW here is a question I cannot figure out the answer: ELC contract lengths are
18-21 3 year
22-23 2 year
24+ 1 year

But is it based on the age of the player when he signs contract or how old he was as of a certain date for that season?

Any move bringing Vanek, Ignila, Vrbata or Eaves over is nowhere near enough to put this team in a measurably better position than they are now.

Not buying that SB is standing pat, or settling for dumpster diving. If he does that, as a fan, I would rather see him do nothing. At least no move equals no loss of current players.

A high quality player/rental is going to cost something of value in exchange. Too bad no one is buying goalies - no market at all. All points to Kruger plus another roster player and/or good prospect having to go the other way for anyone making more than $4mm.

They aren't going to get Palat for any combo of Desi, Gus, etc.

So that said, if you can get Palat and Boyle for Kruger, Hartman and/or Forsling, and/or a pick, you do it.

this is my last post on MS: please tell me were my statments were inacurate.
1)If a forward leads his team in ice time by a Substantial margin in 2 back to back OT losses that would generally lead you to believe the coach thinks he is his best forward? true or false?
2)In general the smaller ice is harder on smaller players or bigger players?
3)if a player leads the KHL in SOG per game over 2 years would you consider him elite for that league for putting SOG?

I said last year when you looked at paniks #'s it pointed to him being able to score 20 goals and be Middle six forward and people did not agree with me. turns out I was correct. I based it on the eye test and digging into his numbers and his TOI and oppurtunity.

If you look MS, Size, how much his coach plays him, and how he is able to consistently put shots on Goal in a league that we can call tied for 2nd that means he has a possibility to succced at the NHL level.

for the people that are tired of me posting the khl standings and KHL stats in regard to 1 of our prospects I'm sorry. I never said he was a the next coming of PAN. All I was saying is people said Pan was not the next coming of Kane and he would struggle as well.
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- kmw4631

I agree. The most that people said was that this is a kid that is big, seemed to have improved a lot in the last 2 years, and is playing at a high level in a good KHL league, despite not being a high draft pick. We are asking/suggesting if the Hawks might be able to sign him after the KHL season and bring him over for a look see. No one said he is the next Panarin (although Panarin was not even drafted and turned out "ok").

Bowman can't make any good moves because he overpaid for Kruger Seabrook & Crawford.
Plus he lost Tevo due to Bickell contract.

Yes bring back Rungblad & Tikonov. BRUTAL

Now we get to watch more Desjardins & Tootoo. BRUTAL
- Goalie-33

I don't know why you quoted my post because nothing you said had anything whatsoever to do with my post.

I don't know why you quoted my post because nothing you said had anything whatsoever to do with my post.
- EbonyRaptor

Dont feed the trolls

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#CHI - Heard at a point they had interest in JVR/Duchene, but not likely to happen. Depth moves may come though: Iginla/Vrbata/Vanek.
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- mrpaulish

Paul, that is a kick in the balls ,glad I only ponied up for 1round! I bet when it is said and done and 1of those guys get moved, it will probably be something Bowman could have beaten.
I wish some one who is close to Toews could get a scoop on what he is thinking now. Not the tow the line crap in the media, but what he is really thinking.

The Blackhawk's core has one player over 33 (the ageless wonder Hossa), and 2 skaters and 1 goalie 30 to 33, the rest of the core is under 30. People act like every member of the core is near retirement.
- -Doh-

I get your point, but they've all got a lot of miles on them especially on the back end. 3 Cups two conference finals 2 Olympics and the world cup...are they just going to punt this season?

I guess we'll know soon enough.

Meanwhile the Blues and Minni both winning tonight. Blues I believe 7-1 since Yeo took over. And Minni is back up to a 7 point lead in the division. The giveaway home games before the trip to the Wild, Jets and Lighting look pretty bad right now.

I was just scrolling through RumorBreak's tweets, and saw him mention that Patrick Eaves is available. $1 mill cap hit on an expiring contract, having a career year. 32 years old. Usually plays with Benn and Seguin, iirc. He can play on the left side, no? Right handed shot. Am I crazy for thinking this?

I was just scrolling through RumorBreak's tweets, and saw him mention that Patrick Eaves is available. $1 mill cap hit on an expiring contract, having a career year. 32 years old. Usually plays with Benn and Seguin, iirc. He can play on the left side, no? Right handed shot. Am I crazy for thinking this?
- 333inthe3rd

No. A couple analysts have said the same thing. He's got 20 goals already too.

No. A couple analysts have said the same thing. He's got 20 goals already too.
- JRoenick97

I wonder what the Hawks would have to give up in a deal for him. Can't be that expensive compared to the usual names being bandied about on here.

you don't need 3.8 Mil to make that trade. It's prorated
- SaadBeast

CapFriendly's deadline space amount accounts for prorating. They really have $3.2m in cap but can fit player(s) whose cap hit(s) are $4.19m or less.

I wonder what the Hawks would have to give up in a deal for him. Can't be that expensive compared to the usual names being bandied about on here.
- 333inthe3rd

Stars are going to ask for more from an in-division rival. They'll have plenty of offers from a lot of cap strapped teams because they rental market this TDL is especially weak.

I agree with you on your last point. Also agree that no one can say if he or any other prospect will pan out whether at the projected line or role on the big club or to make the team at all.

One thing that may be the case for Shalunov is that maybe he takes to feedback well and works hard to improve on what the Hawks player personnel are telling him. Schmaltz has been described to be just like that as he immensely improved from year to year at North Dakota, especially his play without the puck. And he seems to have made some marked improvements since his recent demotion to Rockford. One likely piece of feedback was shoot the puck more which he did for the Hogs and seems to be doing more with the Hawks after the recall.

Another prospect who may be similar to Schmaltz in terms of marked improvement year to year in college is Sikura at Northeastern. I remember Bowman saying that Sikura was one of the players who stood out most at prospects camp. And I believe that Sikura has been top 5 in NCAA scoring all season. He may or may not pan out as an NHL player but, like Schmaltz, he at least takes to instruction from Hawks player personnel and has improved play to speak for it.
- AEL_Fox

One thing that you are omitting from this discussion is both Schmaltz and Sikura have played on North American sheets their entire careers - they are already acclimated to the style of play needed for the NHL.

Most Russian players have had a hard time acclimating to the NHL style. Smaller rinks, more contact, grinding game - they are just not used to it, and can be very stubborn about adjusting their games to fit into it. Players like Ovechkin, Tarasenko and Panarin do have holes in their NHL games - but they are overlooked because they score goals at a high rate.

I think there is too much extreme opinion on both sides of the discussion on Shalunov. I've made multiple posts over the last several week regarding Shalunov, including a couple posts today discussing the position of his KHL team and whether or not his team may make the playoffs and thereby delay the potential for him coming over and signing with the Hawks. Apparently the several posts I made convinced another poster that I was over the top in my enthusiasm for Shalunov and he cautioned me to not think Shalunov was a "savior". The discussion went on to involve other posters and now we have posts decrying that Shalunov shouldn't be compared to Panarin.

Mercy!

I haven't read every post from today and the past days so I don't know if others have been comparing Shalunov with Panarin - I can only say I haven't seen it and I know I haven't made any comment or comparison that Shulunov is anything close to Panarin.

Here's my take on Shalunov and it's not any more over the top than my naturally optimistic attitude shapes my opinion on many of the Hawks prospects. I see Shalunov as a player who is older now and playing much better than he did when he spit the bit playing in North America a few years ago. He has good size and shoots the puck. I have no idea how good or bad he will be in the NHL and neither does anyone else. But I do know he wouldn't cost the Hawks any assets to sign and his ELC wouldn't be cost prohibitive so I see it as a no lose situation for the Hawks. If he signs and he can be an effective NHL player - then happy days. If he still sucks - then no big deal and we move on.

I'm a Hawks fan who enjoys being optimistic about prospects. I know they don't all turn out but so what? What's the harm in being optimistic?
- EbonyRaptor

My comparison about Panarin was more about being NHL ready the minute he comes over - not necessarily about the skill set.

The other point you are leaving out is he and his agent have said he won't come over unless he is guaranteed playing time at the NHL level. Considering just how underwhelming his first stint was, I don't see Q on board with that ultimatum.

Shalunov will have to earn his time - and I don't see it happening in March. If he is willing to come to prospect camp this summer, and show a much better compete level - and catch the coaches eyes, then he may have a spot in October.

Think about what Fortin did last summer and fall - it will take that kind of effort to stick here.

I was just scrolling through RumorBreak's tweets, and saw him mention that Patrick Eaves is available. $1 mill cap hit on an expiring contract, having a career year. 32 years old. Usually plays with Benn and Seguin, iirc. He can play on the left side, no? Right handed shot. Am I crazy for thinking this?
- 333inthe3rd

I am also amazed at the people here thinking Dallas will be doing the Hawks any favors. After Nill crowed about stealing Johns away in the Sharp deal, I would not be surprised if there is a bridge burned there.

wild picked up 4 points of a possible 6 with the 3 games in hand while the hawks rested...hawks down 7...does it matter if the hawks win the div or not? probably not...

how about this...vermette bounced for 10 games after poking his stick into an official after what he apparently thought was a bad draw in the wild game a few days ago

Prospect mailbag w/Scott Powers:

https://theathletic.com/3...debrincat-worth-the-hype/

My comparison about Panarin was more about being NHL ready the minute he comes over - not necessarily about the skill set.

The other point you are leaving out is he and his agent have said he won't come over unless he is guaranteed playing time at the NHL level. Considering just how underwhelming his first stint was, I don't see Q on board with that ultimatum.

Shalunov will have to earn his time - and I don't see it happening in March. If he is willing to come to prospect camp this summer, and show a much better compete level - and catch the coaches eyes, then he may have a spot in October.

Think about what Fortin did last summer and fall - it will take that kind of effort to stick here.
- dahawks8819

Shalunov wouldn't be the first player using his leverage to sign for a guarantee at a shot at an NHL roster spot, and not the first to do so with the Hawks either. If he's good enough to stick, he sticks, otherwise send him packing an who cares what he does.