We've seen teams with far less talent go on longer runs than the Isles. I'd love another impact forward on the Isles, but this is not a team with a serious lack of talent.
- ses111

They lack a first line winger. Defense I beleive they dont lack. Since the answer is Pulock in the minors

People = Players. I should've been more specific. Chimera and Ladd are both projected to reach 20 goals this year. The loss of Frans hasn't been too bad considering when you look at how mediocre he looks in Detroit. I don't want to hear "oh, that's cause he's on a bad team." Last time I checked, Taylor Hall is still being Taylor Hall in a mediocre Devils squad. A team doesn't dictate individual forward performance.
- bgainesDM

Andrew Ladd nor Jason Chimera couldn't hold Frans Neilson jock strap as far as a two way hockey player. He plays the PP and the PK, and is out against the other teams best ffensive line and scores 40 to 50 points while doing it. He is producing in Detroit exactly how he produce and played on the Island and if you don't think the Islanders just on the PK and face offs alone aren't missing Frans you delusional.
We haven't even started to put KO and his 48 points into the equation yet.

They lack a first line winger. Defense I beleive they dont lack. Since the answer is Pulock in the minors
- kasperrko

I'll take a better 1st line wing than Bailey, but offensively the 1st line is getting it done. Lee is playing like a 1st line wing. The defensive breakdown will kill the Isles and not a lack of offense.

Nope!!! What makes you to assume that he can make him into that player. The only person who can make Strome a 55 point guy is Strome himself. Until he believes in himself and plays at the level he know he can play at then he can be that guy until then nope
- kasperrko

8 points in 12 games under Weight. A coach makes a difference to those who are not Malkin, JT, or McDavid.

Andrew Ladd nor Jason Chimera couldn't hold Frans Neilson jock strap as far as a two way hockey player. He plays the PP and the PK, and is out against the other teams best ffensive line and scores 40 to 50 points while doing it. He is producing in Detroit exactly how he produce and played on the Island and if you don't think the Islanders just on the PK and face offs alone aren't missing Frans you delusional.
We haven't even started to put KO and his 48 points into the equation yet.

- nyisles7

Then I guess you haven't been watching Frans this year.
Btw, we offered him more $ actually than Detroit. Frans said he wanted a change of scenery. That's his fault.

8 points in 12 games under Weight. A coach makes a difference to those who are not Malkin, JT, or McDavid.
- bgainesDM

It starts with player though themselves. IF they believe they can be that guy then they will. It takes a lot of hard work to be the best of the best. You can ask all those players you mentioned and it starts with them first

Then I guess you haven't been watching Frans this year.
Btw, we offered him more $ actually than Detroit. Frans said he wanted a change of scenery. That's his fault.
- bgainesDM

No he didnt want to be around this mess anymore. Do you blame him?? Right their should have been a warning sign to everyone that things were not right here on the Island

Depends on who's coaching the player though. Strome has really been trending upward and could break 40 points under Weight. It takes a coach to maximize player potential. Cappy wasn't doing that for Strome. You mean to tell me you don't think Peter Laviolette could coach him into being a 55+ point player?
- bgainesDM

Trades are not made w/assumption of what another coach can do to player, trades are made by value of player & production. Grant it, unless Strome finishes season strong, his value may go up by nothing towards acquiring top 4 dmen bc of his inconsistencies.

Major rumor was Duclair for Strome during the season but Garf blow didnt want to pull the trigger...

It starts with player though themselves. IF they believe they can be that guy then they will. It takes a lot of hard work to be the best of the best. You can ask all those players you mentioned and it starts with them first
- kasperrko

Have they ever been benched 5 times over the course of 2 seasons despite the coach's system not working for them anyways?

I'll take a better 1st line wing than Bailey, but offensively the 1st line is getting it done. Lee is playing like a 1st line wing. The defensive breakdown will kill the Isles and not a lack of offense.
- ses111

BAiley is a facade. I am happy he is having a better season this year I mean it took him forever but I still dont trust him and think we should trade him while his value is high.

Trades are not made w/assumption of what another coach can do to player, trades are made by value of player & production. Grant it, unless Strome finishes season strong, his value may go up by nothing towards acquiring top 4 dmen bc of his inconsistencies.

Major rumor was Duclair for Strome during the season but Garf blow didnt want to pull the trigger...
- Ur Not Me

Duclair for Strome is more of a lateral move.

No he didnt want to be around this mess anymore. Do you blame him?? Right their should have been a warning sign to everyone that things were not right here on the Island
- kasperrko

Again, he never said that. Now, you're just putting words in his mouth.

Have they ever been benched 5 times over the course of 2 seasons despite the coach's system not working for them anyways?
- bgainesDM

No because they learned to adapt and play at the level that they should. Half the guys on the ISlanders do not do that. They take games off and expect everyone else to pick up the slack. If the Islanders at a team played at a hundred percent each game we would not be fighting for a playoff spot right now

Then I guess you haven't been watching Frans this year.
Btw, we offered him more $ actually than Detroit. Frans said he wanted a change of scenery. That's his fault.
- bgainesDM

Actually Frans felt slighted that Cizikas got his raise before Snow even reached out to his agent, bc Snow was all twinkle toes in on Stamkos that never happened, so dumb mistake on Gm

Again, he never said that. Now, you're just putting words in his mouth.
- bgainesDM

He wanted a change of scenery? What do you think that means? Why would he turn down more money then? Come on use that brain

No because they learned to adapt and play at the level that they should. Half the guys on the ISlanders do not do that. They take games off and expect everyone else to pick up the slack. If the Islanders at a team played at a hundred percent each game we would not be fighting for a playoff spot right now
- kasperrko

Again, I blame that on the coach and his chip and chase system and relying more on Brian Strait than Pelech or Pulock.

He wanted a change of scenery? What do you think that means? Why would he turn down more money then? Come on use that brain
- kasperrko

A new chapter. Many players decide that. Many players don't.

He wanted a change of scenery? What do you think that means? Why would he turn down more money then? Come on use that brain
- kasperrko

That was the polite way of Frans to say "i felt disrespected"

He wanted a change of scenery? What do you think that means? Why would he turn down more money then? Come on use that brain
- kasperrko

Remember Zach Parise going to the Wild? Devils had the money too.

No because they learned to adapt and play at the level that they should. Half the guys on the ISlanders do not do that. They take games off and expect everyone else to pick up the slack. If the Islanders at a team played at a hundred percent each game we would not be fighting for a playoff spot right now
- kasperrko

Even when the Isles forwards get back in the D zone, they do not even pick up their man. Still plenty of open players for the other team. Defense takes effort and too many of the forwards just want to play offense.

The best part was that they mentioned it was spotted in international waters, so 12 nautical miles off-shore, yet show a picture of the boat in a harbor.

Media is a (frank)ing joke
- eichiefs9

these are such routine things too. like we don't also have subs over there. it's spycraft. media is a joke indeed

A new chapter. Many players decide that. Many players don't.
- bgainesDM

Go ahead and believe that, but for a player who has been here that long and to turn down more money means something was not right here and he knew it

Remember Zach Parise going to the Wild? Devils had the money too.
- bgainesDM

Zach Parise was smart. The Devils have been horrible since he left and he knew that was going to happen.

Go ahead and believe that, but for a player who has been here that long and to turn down more money means something was not right here and he knew it
- kasperrko

A player does not think like a fan. Some players want a change of scenery. Doesn't mean their current situation is bad though. You think Detroit is projected to be relevant over the next 4 years? lol They're laughable.

Go ahead and believe that, but for a player who has been here that long and to turn down more money means something was not right here and he knew it
- kasperrko

I give Frans a hard time, but Isles should have traded for that wing for JT and re-signed Frans and Garth could have basically called it a summer.