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Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 13 @ 7:15 PM ET
Yeah, it starts with McDavid. Better goaltending in Talbot this year. And Maroon, Leon D (don't want to look up the spelling of his name) have been playing great. From what I've read and heard sounds like Larsson his 3D. That's not great considering you gave up top8 LW in the league that was a #1 pick.
- bryant


"He's not the flashiest guy but that's not his job. He's sound defensively and he wins his one-on-one battles in the corners and he doesn't get beat too often one-on-one coming into the zone. So he's doing exactly what we needed him to do and it's worked out well.

"He's come in and shored up our back end. We're head-and-shoulders above where we were last year at this point as a team and I think he's a big part of it."

~Cam Talbot

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 13 @ 7:15 PM ET
They overpaid for him massively..

It's pretty much consensus now..

- Arctic_AARDVARK


i disagree 100%

i thought it was a damn good trade for the oilers

people put way too much emphasis on point production
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Feb 13 @ 7:18 PM ET
"He's not the flashiest guy but that's not his job. He's sound defensively and he wins his one-on-one battles in the corners and he doesn't get beat too often one-on-one coming into the zone. So he's doing exactly what we needed him to do and it's worked out well.

"He's come in and shored up our back end. We're head-and-shoulders above where we were last year at this point as a team and I think he's a big part of it."

~Cam Talbot

- Dozzer



High praise for Russell
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 13 @ 7:34 PM ET
"He's not the flashiest guy but that's not his job. He's sound defensively and he wins his one-on-one battles in the corners and he doesn't get beat too often one-on-one coming into the zone. So he's doing exactly what we needed him to do and it's worked out well.

"He's come in and shored up our back end. We're head-and-shoulders above where we were last year at this point as a team and I think he's a big part of it."

~Cam Talbot

- Dozzer

Oilers made a lot of changes.. they didn't need to part with a 1st overall elite LW to get a stable D man.. I'd be pissed of the Leafs traded JVR for Larson, and Hall>>>JVR.

And it's not like Talbot is going to say anything bad about him.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 13 @ 7:35 PM ET
oilers strength heading into last offseason: goal scoring

they have a poop ton of guys who can put up numbers

weakness? the back end... without question

larsson has stabilized it ... you cannot debate that

a player's value is highly contingent on the team he plays for and their needs.

- Dozzer

I don't think you can attribute their rise in the standings to the trade as much as just having a full season of McDavid.

That being said, they removed a piece from a position of strength and filled a hole in a position of weakness... so it makes sense that way, but they should have been able to get more.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 13 @ 7:51 PM ET
"Hold my beer"

- Jim Benning

- eichiefs9

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 13 @ 7:54 PM ET
oilers: 66P

devils: 56P

tough to argue that the offseason moves PC made were wrong at this particular point in time

- Dozzer


They also have a full year of McDavid. If Devils had him, they'd probably be over 66P right now. Having McDavid doesn't justify the trade, it just allows it to be buried somewhat.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 13 @ 7:55 PM ET
I don't think you can attribute their rise in the standings to the trade as much as just having a full season of McDavid.

That being said, they removed a piece from a position of strength and filled a hole in a position of weakness... so it makes sense that way, but they should have been able to get more.

- Feeling Glucky?


Yup. If they'd have given up Nuge or Ebs for Larsson it's still an overpayment, but more understandable and excusable. Hall is still a top 5LW, and Larsson is average second pairing.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 13 @ 7:57 PM ET
To Anaheim: JVR Bozak Corrado (tor retains 1.5 million jvr final yr)
To Toronto: Shea Theodore Kevin Bieksa 3rd pick

- mwh144



Bob Murray points a gun at Lou lams? He has incriminating photos?

BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 13 @ 8:02 PM ET
What about trying to pry both Theodore and Montour from Anaheim? Or Madison Bowey from the Capitals. That would be pretty rad.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 13 @ 8:02 PM ET
Anaheim wont move any roster members off D. You'd get one of their AHL dmen and a 2nd rounder for JVR + some retained salary. Thats the only trade that would make sense for both teams.

Leafs need future nhl d-men, long term, and Anaheim needs scoring in the short to medium term, at a discount.

- Buggy166




JVr and retained salary is worth a hell of a lot more than an ahl dman
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:15 PM ET
Fire someone...It's been forever since the Leafs fired someone..
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:16 PM ET
JVr and retained salary is worth a hell of a lot more than an ahl dman
- burn



Ya thats not fuk'n happening...Leafs not about to give JVR away...People need to learn this..

JFJ/Nonis is no longer working for the Leafs..
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:20 PM ET
No one around ic..


*puts pants back on
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:24 PM ET
Fire someone...It's been forever since the Leafs fired someone..
- Fruitcakenipple

I think cliff fletcher is still on the staff somewhere....They should fire him, he screwed the leafs hard his second time around.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:29 PM ET
I think cliff fletcher is still on the staff somewhere....They should fire him, he screwed the leafs hard his second time around.
- bryant



Yep..Fire him just for the sake of doing so..Next thing he will be tits up and it will be an opportunity missed..


Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 13 @ 8:30 PM ET
They also have a full year of McDavid. If Devils had him, they'd probably be over 66P right now. Having McDavid doesn't justify the trade, it just allows it to be buried somewhat.
- lumlums



Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:31 PM ET
22Minutes @22_Minutes
1m
Sarah Palin will not be named U.S. ambassador to Canada. Because after everything that's happened, THAT would be too crazy.



twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 13 @ 8:52 PM ET
Fire someone...It's been forever since the Leafs fired someone..
- Fruitcakenipple

Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Feb 13 @ 9:33 PM ET
new blog everyone
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Feb 13 @ 9:43 PM ET
i disagree 100%

i thought it was a damn good trade for the oilers

people put way too much emphasis on point production

- Dozzer

Taylor Hall is undeniably one of the Top 5 LWs in the NHL. He should have commanded more than Larsson. Period.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Feb 14 @ 11:56 AM ET
I don't think you can attribute their rise in the standings to the trade as much as just having a full season of McDavid.

That being said, they removed a piece from a position of strength and filled a hole in a position of weakness... so it makes sense that way, but they should have been able to get more.

- Feeling Glucky?


Yep. And now everyone seems to think that because of this, the price for a guy like Trouba is Nylander plus.

Edit: eg. JVR+retained salary for an AHL D
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