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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 14 @ 1:45 PM ET
Plus Moulson is bad and no one wants that cap hit.
- thatsapickle


True and with Jordie only making 1.1M for 3 years that's a tough sell (those type of contracts are tough to give up in the cap era).

Still think I'd do it if Dallas said yes...they're taking the cap dump for the upgrade in goaltender. IMO Lehner > Lehtonen
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 14 @ 1:46 PM ET
Plus Moulson is bad and no one wants that cap hit.
- thatsapickle


Lehtonen is $6 mil tho, even if it is one year shorter than Moulson. Dallas is gonna have to get rid of Lehtonen by next year if they want back into the show
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 14 @ 1:46 PM ET
True and with Jordie only making 1.1M for 3 years that's a tough sell (those type of contracts are tough to give up in the cap era).

Still think I'd do it if Dallas said yes...they're taking the cap dump for the upgrade in goaltender. IMO Lehner > Lehtonen

- RhinoFan



I don't think anyone would argue the inverse
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 1:48 PM ET
Lehtonen is $6 mil tho, even if it is one year shorter than Moulson. Dallas is gonna have to get rid of Lehtonen by next year if they want back into the show
- jcragcrumple


Rumors are Pittsburgh is trying to trade Marc-Andre Fleury there lol
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
I don't think anyone would argue the inverse
- jcragcrumple

You'd be surprised
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 14 @ 2:42 PM ET
Rumors are Pittsburgh is trying to trade Marc-Andre Fleury anywhere lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Fixed
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
You'd be surprised
- Mentalorgasm5


That's crazy to me stats wise and certainly salary wise
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 14 @ 3:07 PM ET
That's crazy to me stats wise and certainly salary wise
- jcragcrumple


Eh lot of Lehner-haters out there. I was probably just stating the obvious though, you're right.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Feb 14 @ 3:21 PM ET
Well, that's great and all taking a flyer on 2 Qbs with a 1st & 2nd.
In the meantime, we have significant holes at WR, RT, LB, S and CB which will cost $$$'s we don't have ... and the result is an aging team the still has no QB, finishes 6-10 and drafts 9th to remain the QB he'll.

Take the medicine, tank and rebuild.

- IonSabres


Williams and Davis are WR's not QB's
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Feb 14 @ 3:26 PM ET
Love your picks lol

Kulikov- Pittsburgh Penguins have been a lot of games I think he ends up there
For a 2nd

George's - idk ugh lol

Fossil - hopefully he goes to Montreal for a 3rd

Molasses - wishful thinking lol

Kane - ducks

Marcus foligno - sharks or to play with his brother 2nd round pick

- GERBE!!!75PTS


why would we trade Foligno for a 2nd? The chances of getting a player as decent as him in the 2nd is not good, plus that player would be 4 years away. No reason to trade Foligno unless it's from an NHL roster player
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 14 @ 3:31 PM ET
why would we trade Foligno for a 2nd? The chances of getting a player as decent as him in the 2nd is not good, plus that player would be 4 years away. No reason to trade Foligno unless it's from an NHL roster player
- turbo044


You would have been better off sticking a hot poker in your ass and try to walk away.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 14 @ 3:44 PM ET
Williams and Davis are WR's not QB's
- turbo044


Well we already have a RB playing QB. Really, what's the difference?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
heard murray is looking for a long term d man


wild
ducks
islanders
jets
canes



spit balling from the list I was sent


wild, ducks and jets have to move a d man before the draft, wild could take a few rentals, esp if sabres kept part of salary

- homiedclown



And Nashville

Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 14 @ 4:12 PM ET
why would we trade Foligno for a 2nd? The chances of getting a player as decent as him in the 2nd is not good, plus that player would be 4 years away. No reason to trade Foligno unless it's from an NHL roster player
- turbo044

Some people don't understand probability success rates.

This is why I hated the McNabb trade from day one. We gave up 2 2nds along with a player who was NHL ready for prospects drafted in the 3rd and 4th round. As low as the success rate is for 2nd rounders, 3rd and 4th round success is almost non existent in the NHL.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 14 @ 4:17 PM ET
Some people don't understand probability success rates.
- Mentalorgasm5


Devils Advocate: Since we have Bailey, Baptiste, Nylander and Fasching all on the cusp, we need to get rid of someone. Foligno is a good player and I'd personally rather keep him around and export Ennis or let Gio go. However, if Gio was to resign (hypothetical I know), and 2-3 of the above mentioned players were ready we'd have a serious log jam.

If Foligno is the name you come up with to go, what could you realistically get back in return? Defenders are a hot commodity nowadays so you won't get a top4 for him, probably more of a low to mid level bottom pairing guy...we have tons of those.

In the end if we could get a 2nd for him or a decent prospect wouldn't that suffice? Isn't the ideal return but what more can realistically be asked for...he's not getting a 1st.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 14 @ 4:23 PM ET
Devils Advocate: Since we have Bailey, Baptiste, Nylander and Fasching all on the cusp, we need to get rid of someone. Foligno is a good player and I'd personally rather keep him around and export Ennis or let Gio go. However, if Gio was to resign (hypothetical I know), and 2-3 of the above mentioned players were ready we'd have a serious log jam.

If Foligno is the name you come up with to go, what could you realistically get back in return? Defenders are a hot commodity nowadays so you won't get a top4 for him, probably more of a low to mid level bottom pairing guy...we have tons of those.

In the end if we could get a 2nd for him or a decent prospect wouldn't that suffice? Isn't the ideal return but what more can realistically be asked for...he's not getting a 1st.

- RhinoFan

I'd rather try to move Foligno with any or all of the mentioned prospects for a better roster player in the offseason.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 14 @ 4:24 PM ET
Williams and Davis are WR's not QB's
- turbo044


My bad...carry on, nothing to see here!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 4:32 PM ET
Some people don't understand probability success rates.

This is why I hated the McNabb trade from day one. We gave up 2 2nds along with a player who was NHL ready for prospects drafted in the 3rd and 4th round. As low as the success rate is for 2nd rounders, 3rd and 4th round success is almost non existent in the NHL.

- Mentalorgasm5


I could See Foligno being a person of interest for Anaheim in a package deal.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 14 @ 4:33 PM ET
I'd rather try to move Foligno with any or all of the mentioned prospects for a better roster player in the offseason.
- Mentalorgasm5


Fair. Just not sure that if it was a 1 for 1 that we'd do much better than a 2nd was all. You're right and a number of people have been saying it for a while...we need to trade 2 or 3 assets for 1. Time to cash in.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 4:38 PM ET
Julian the new coach of the Montreal Canadiens



That was fast
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 4:41 PM ET
Julian the new coach of the Montreal Canadiens



That was fast

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Ek wrote this about Therien just yesterday:

On Michel Therrien...

The wolves are circling, and I am not one to report on rumors of firings....so if I am writing about this today you can be sure I am hearing he is perfectly safe in Montreal as of now. I talked to quite a few people about this...


you cant make this crap up.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 4:43 PM ET
Ek wrote this about Therien just yesterday:

On Michel Therrien...

The wolves are circling, and I am not one to report on rumors of firings....so if I am writing about this today you can be sure I am hearing he is perfectly safe in Montreal as of now. I talked to quite a few people about this...


you cant make this crap up.

- ImThatGuy


Smh lol ..
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 4:45 PM ET
Ek wrote this about Therien just yesterday:

On Michel Therrien...

The wolves are circling, and I am not one to report on rumors of firings....so if I am writing about this today you can be sure I am hearing he is perfectly safe in Montreal as of now. I talked to quite a few people about this...


you cant make this crap up.

- ImThatGuy


He did say for now...
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Feb 14 @ 4:52 PM ET
Julian the new coach of the Montreal Canadiens



That was fast

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Dominos ?
Pope of Pucks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miller's Dark Shadows, AZ
Joined: 08.04.2009

Feb 14 @ 4:55 PM ET
Dominos ?
- 22sabresQ

Disco out Therien in.

***Lehner stares at Jack****

Jack wets himself
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