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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Feb 13 @ 3:55 PM ET
What are they gonna add? Don't think Duchene is worth either one of those guys on his own and I don't think any other team offers them anyone in the same realm as Brodie or Hamilton.
- Saskabush


Well Columbus got Seth Jones for for Johansen. Duchene is better than Johansen and Jones probably has as much value as Brodie or Hamilton. If Colorado can't get a player of that quality, they shouldn't be trading Duchene.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Feb 13 @ 4:04 PM ET
WELL FOX AND A FIRST SURE WON'T GET IT DONE. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BRODIE AND WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT
- Squilliam-


...I'm not sure Fox and a 1st + a roster player (Kulak, Spoon, JJ) would warrant an all CAPS response

Maybe I'm undercutting Landeskog's value a little bit (I only suggest what I'd be willing to offer, not necessarily what Colorado is going to ask for) , but you might be overvaluing him by quite a bit. The guy is a 2nd line winger at best. I like him, but no way in hell Landeskog is worth Brodie especially considering he is a left shot LW (AKA the most common player in the NHL).
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Feb 13 @ 4:28 PM ET
...I'm not sure Fox and a 1st + a roster player (Kulak, Spoon, JJ) would warrant an all CAPS response

Maybe I'm undercutting Landeskog's value a little bit (I only suggest what I'd be willing to offer, not necessarily what Colorado is going to ask for) , but you might be overvaluing him by quite a bit. The guy is a 2nd line winger at best. I like him, but no way in hell Landeskog is worth Brodie especially considering he is a left shot LW (AKA the most common player in the NHL).

- Saskabush

Not a chance would I get rid of Brody!! Or Hamilton!! The avs and oilers are prime examples of how not to build a team forwords out!! Goalie,defence, center. Then fill in the gaps. Unless you got a mcdavid or Mathews who happen to be wingers. Other then that start from the backend.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Feb 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
Fox and a First for Landeskog.....looks like someone went to Mexico with Boozin Bouma!!!

If they come out and lay a stinker I'm gonna be pissed. Booze all you want but you better be ready. I will legit cancel my seasons tickets if they looks like poop tonight.
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Feb 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
Fox and a First for Landeskog.....looks like someone went to Mexico with Boozin Bouma!!!

If they come out and lay a stinker I'm gonna be pissed. Booze all you want but you better be ready. I will legit cancel my seasons tickets if they looks like poop tonight.

- The-O-G

Yup!!!!!!!!😎
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Feb 13 @ 5:01 PM ET
Pretty massive risk, but the thought of having Tkachuk, Landeskog and Hath in the same lineup is nuts.

I'm on the keep Brodie train. Buut... If BT had a plan in place for the expansion draft to trade a defenseman that won't get protected AND followed that up by signing Alzner?

And before the "thats a terrible idea, BT should play it safe" folks roll around: GFY, no one actually wants to trade Brodie. The guy is a beast and on an amazing contract. It's fun to talk about the options a GM has.

It will probably just end up being Duchene for Fowler and a 2nd. But it would be fun to see BT pull off something bold.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Feb 13 @ 5:47 PM ET
Pretty massive risk, but the thought of having Tkachuk, Landeskog and Hath in the same lineup is nuts.

I'm on the keep Brodie train. Buut... If BT had a plan in place for the expansion draft to trade a defenseman that won't get protected AND followed that up by signing Alzner?

And before the "thats a terrible idea, BT should play it safe" folks roll around: GFY, no one actually wants to trade Brodie. The guy is a beast and on an amazing contract. It's fun to talk about the options a GM has.

It will probably just end up being Duchene for Fowler and a 2nd. But it would be fun to see BT pull off something bold.

- fry


That is terrible idea, BT should play it safe.
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 13 @ 5:49 PM ET
Fox and a First for Landeskog.....looks like someone went to Mexico with Boozin Bouma!!!

If they come out and lay a stinker I'm gonna be pissed. Booze all you want but you better be ready. I will legit cancel my seasons tickets if they looks like poop tonight.

- The-O-G


They née to get the ball rolling, starting tonight. Need to go on a win streak.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Feb 13 @ 6:21 PM ET
Fox and a First for Landeskog.....looks like someone went to Mexico with Boozin Bouma!!!

If they come out and lay a stinker I'm gonna be pissed. Booze all you want but you better be ready. I will legit cancel my seasons tickets if they looks like poop tonight.

- The-O-G


Fox, a 1st and a roster player (should've specified that it'd be a younger dman). That would be my starting offer (if Sakic really is at the Beanpot to scout Fox/Hickey). I probably wouldn't go much higher for a 2nd liner. I think some people are looking at his draft position and thinking the guy is better than he is.

When this was brought up a few weeks ago I was thinking we'd most likely have to give 1 of (Kulak, Tspoon, JJ), a 1st and a blue chip d prospect (Kylington, Fat Rass). I'd maybe be willing to give up Kylington and Kulak with the 1st.

Anything more than that and I'd walk. I like the guy but he (and Duchene for that matter) aren't worth what people seem to think they are. If some other GM wants to throw the farm at Colorado they can be my guest.


Also, I heard GG saying he was pleasantly surprised with how well practice went. He even noted that quite a few players were working out over the weekend. So hopefully that means they're ready to come out and take care of business
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Feb 13 @ 6:52 PM ET
Well Columbus got Seth Jones for for Johansen. Duchene is better than Johansen and Jones probably has as much value as Brodie or Hamilton. If Colorado can't get a player of that quality, they shouldn't be trading Duchene.
- Hunkulese


Duchene over Johansen is debatable at best. Personally I'd lean towards Johansen. He's younger, bigger, and plays a little more of a complete game (they can both be defensive liabilities).

They produce at similar rates even though Duchene (much like our friends to the North) has had the fortune of playing with some talented linemates during his career (Stastny, O'Reilly, Mackinnon, Landeskog). Johansen was relied upon to provide much of the offence in Columbus.

Jones has pedigree, but he really hasn't done (frank) all yet at the NHL level. At the time of that trade he was just a really good prospect who looked like he might pan out to being a good top pairing dman some day.

In my opinion flashy prospect does not hold the same trade value as established top pairing dman.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Feb 13 @ 8:52 PM ET
What are they gonna add? Don't think Duchene is worth either one of those guys on his own and I don't think any other team offers them anyone in the same realm as Brodie or Hamilton.
- Saskabush

You don't think Duchene is worth Brodie?

Hamilton I get but Im not sure what you think Brodie does that makes him not worth trading for Duchene.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Feb 13 @ 8:53 PM ET
Fox & Hickey could definitely be of interest for Sakic. I wouldn't count out Treliving being interested in Landeskog. The price should be lower and I think he could be a really good linemate for Bennett (or even on the top line with Johnny and Money).

Fox and a 1st for Landy? We might have to throw in another roster player or something..

Landeskog and Duchene are both Left shots...doubt either has much experience on RW (maybe Duchene likes playing the off-wing, I'm not sure..)

- Saskabush

Come on
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 13 @ 10:02 PM ET
Come on
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Hey I through Chiasson in there as well! GFY
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 13 @ 10:08 PM ET
Booze hound Johnny!
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Feb 13 @ 10:08 PM ET
Hey I through Chiasson in there as well! GFY
- K-man25

Oh well in that case..
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 13 @ 10:09 PM ET
Weird game ...flames look like they were not rusty at all and coyotes have had maybe 3-4 scoring chances all game ...yet 2-0
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Feb 13 @ 10:11 PM ET
Weird game ...flames look like they were not rusty at all and coyotes have had maybe 3-4 scoring chances all game ...yet 2-0
- Redmile247

Myself when the Oilers outshoot a team, I just sit back and wait for a loss. I can't explain it.
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:14 PM ET
Let's give widman more min!! He looks sooo good and always in position
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 13 @ 10:14 PM ET
Can't watch this... too frustrating.
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 13 @ 10:15 PM ET
Let's give widman more min!! He looks sooo good and always in position
- pzoxic



Wideman can go.fck himself
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:18 PM ET
Wideman can go.fck himself
- Squilliam-

My fuking god i can't wait till he is gone! They should have kept Raymond and bought out wideman this year
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:23 PM ET
My fuking god i can't wait till he is gone! They should have kept Raymond and bought out wideman this year
- pzoxic


Imagine if a couple years ago when he had a career year he would have been traded. That last goal it was actually impressive how bad he was.
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:24 PM ET
Frustrating to watch gaudreau stick handle at the blueline he has to get that puck deep.
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:26 PM ET
What the (frank) is going on here!!!!!!
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 13 @ 10:26 PM ET
Need more cowbell!
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