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hbk
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 12 @ 7:19 PM ET
They played a terrible game - Mike Smith played a great game (gaffe leading to goal aside) and the Pens were unlucky. But the Pens had six more shots and controlled 56% of the play.

If you control 56% of the game for a season, you'd be one of the top five teams in the NHL. Which the Penguins are.

I don't know why honest analysis makes people mad. Do you just want a cheerleader? For a 29th place team? What?

- James_Tanner


I swear to God you don't watch the team. It's all negative all the time. Coyotes win, Coyotes lucked out. Coyotes won 5 of the last 8 and nothing positive outside of hey Smith is okay. Nothing on developmental of the youth. How Domi has looked since he returned. On improved play of Dvorak. Nothing. All negative. All the time. I get talking about the bad when they lose but throw a bone to the readers when they do play decent. That way your opinion might actually mean something.
hbk
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 12 @ 7:22 PM ET
James, wrong again! Because you don't watch the games! The Yotes played a great game last night. Smith almost lost the game for them! You think because the Pens had 6 more shots on goal they were the better team?! They lost the game! and were out played, badly! But you wouldn't know. This site is a joke! The bloggers don't even follow hockey! Well, This blogger.
- Gomey

He doesn't watch. It's apparent. Constantly harps on those who don't keep an open mind to fancy stats yet doesn't actually watch the games to get a sniff of what actually happened. How can one take him seriously when he says that Pens dominated. If he said they didn't play as well as they can I would have bought it but he didn't watch. He just assumed last night was all Smith.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Feb 12 @ 7:29 PM ET
I swear to God you don't watch the team. It's all negative all the time. Coyotes win, Coyotes lucked out. Coyotes won 5 of the last 8 and nothing positive outside of hey Smith is okay. Nothing on developmental of the youth. How Domi has looked since he returned. On improved play of Dvorak. Nothing. All negative. All the time. I get talking about the bad when they lose but throw a bone to the readers when they do play decent. That way your opinion might actually mean something.
- hbk


The Coyotes are 29th.
Last night, they Played Luke Schenn the most at 5v5
Dvorak, Perlini and Crouse played under 10 at 5v5
DeAngelo and Duclair are in the AHL.
Chychrun was a healthy scratch.
They won a game, when the best thing they could do is lose.

I am sorry you don't get more positive coverage. But I don't see how I can be positive about this team at this time. If they fire Tippett, if they make a move that suggests they know what they're doing, if they actually win a game in which they don't get crazy lucky, I'll be the first to say so.

I am happy they beat the Penguins. But, big picture, who cares? I am sure there are a lot of cheerleader bloggers out there that can give you what you want. But I analyize the team as I see it, and currently, I see very little to be positive about.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Feb 12 @ 7:31 PM ET
He doesn't watch. It's apparent. Constantly harps on those who don't keep an open mind to fancy stats yet doesn't actually watch the games to get a sniff of what actually happened. How can one take him seriously when he says that Pens dominated. If he said they didn't play as well as they can I would have bought it but he didn't watch. He just assumed last night was all Smith.
- hbk



I don't think it's cool to say that anyone who doesn't share your views didn't watch the game. The Penguins deserved to win that game, I don't know what game you were watching. It's fun when the Coyotes win, but are we or are we not interested in knowing what actually happened beyond the score?
hbk
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 12 @ 7:35 PM ET
The Coyotes are 29th.
Last night, they Played Luke Schenn the most at 5v5
Dvorak, Perlini and Crouse played under 10 at 5v5
DeAngelo and Duclair are in the AHL.
Chychrun was a healthy scratch.
They won a game, when the best thing they could do is lose.

I am sorry you don't get more positive coverage. But I don't see how I can be positive about this team at this time. If they fire Tippett, if they make a move that suggests they know what they're doing, if they actually win a game in which they don't get crazy lucky, I'll be the first to say so.

I am happy they beat the Penguins. But, big picture, who cares? I am sure there are a lot of cheerleader bloggers out there that can give you what you want. But I analyize the team as I see it, and currently, I see very little to be positive about.

- James_Tanner


You don't watch. If you did the last positive brought up would have been Smith. I expected an article on the play of Hanzal who shut down the best player in the league last night. His 24 mins played last night didn't get a mention though. The story of the game didn't get a mention.

You don't watch. You harp on inconsequential crap that didn't matter in a win. A win that quite frankly they dominated. Yes Penguins are a much better team than what showed up but Hanzal and AZ dictated game. That was up until Mike Smith gifted a goal to the Pens but you would have known that IF you watched.

29th placed teams who play a good game don't deserve honest coverage. That's the take home. If only they could get more shots on net. Because that matters.

Five wins in last eight games. How many positive articles about anything the Coyotes did? You choose the one player who nearly cost them the game. Great analysis. Top shelf.
Gomey
Location: glendale, AZ
Joined: 12.09.2015

Feb 12 @ 7:52 PM ET
I don't think it's cool to say that anyone who doesn't share your views didn't watch the game. The Penguins deserved to win that game, I don't know what game you were watching. It's fun when the Coyotes win, but are we or are we not interested in knowing what actually happened beyond the score?
- James_Tanner

It's not about sharing your views. You don't know what happened in the games! You do it all the time! You don't have to be a cheerleader. You don't cover basics. So many things happen in a game, That don't involve corsi. The Pens were outplayed! Your wrong! It can't be everyone else!
Gomey
Location: glendale, AZ
Joined: 12.09.2015

Feb 12 @ 7:57 PM ET
The Coyotes are 29th.
Last night, they Played Luke Schenn the most at 5v5
Dvorak, Perlini and Crouse played under 10 at 5v5
DeAngelo and Duclair are in the AHL.
Chychrun was a healthy scratch.
They won a game, when the best thing they could do is lose.

I am sorry you don't get more positive coverage. But I don't see how I can be positive about this team at this time. If they fire Tippett, if they make a move that suggests they know what they're doing, if they actually win a game in which they don't get crazy lucky, I'll be the first to say so.

I am happy they beat the Penguins. But, big picture, who cares? I am sure there are a lot of cheerleader bloggers out there that can give you what you want. But I analyize the team as I see it, and currently, I see very little to be positive about.

- James_Tanner

Do you know what team was 30th last year? Toronto! How many positive blogs did you write about them, when they sucked? Every blog was how great they are. Your're a troll!
hbk
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 12 @ 7:57 PM ET
I don't think it's cool to say that anyone who doesn't share your views didn't watch the game. The Penguins deserved to win that game, I don't know what game you were watching. It's fun when the Coyotes win, but are we or are we not interested in knowing what actually happened beyond the score?
- James_Tanner


yes and apparently you have to go to the comments or another site to get it.

AZ dictated play. Deserved the win. You didn't see that. Okay...

You ignore saying anything about Hanzal shutting down Crosby. 24 mins played. 4 hits. The statement game of the season for trade value. To highlight the huge gapping hole trading him creates for the future. Doesn't meet your journalistic standard?

Was anything positive said about Dvorak and his two goals the other night? Nope. Doesn't fit the negative narrative. Fluky win. Miracles happen.

Five wins in last eight games. No positive comments. None. Hard to take you seriously when it's all negative all the time.

I appreciate the negative when it's called for but for you to have gone through this last stretch without anything remotely positive is just a full out insult to anyone's who watches the. Team. It's impossible to take the negative seriously when you ignore all the positives.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:36 PM ET
Not so sure I agree about the world being a safer, less crime ridden place James. I think the problem is that we are sheltered in our country and don't see all the nasty things that happen everywhere else. North America might be fairly safe, but if you study some of the things that happen elsewhere it's a totally different world.

I forget the name, but there's a documentary/show on lately featuring an investigative journalist that is looking into the attack on a fishing ship a few years ago off the coast of Somalia. Learning all the crazy stuff that goes on in the fishing industry is insane.

People tricked by promises of great pay basically used as slave labor working 20 hour days on boats that are barely seaworthy and totally unsanitary. They are abused, drugs are rampant, and they often take it into their own hands to deal with other ships in "their" territory, which sometimes means killing them all and sinking their ships. The fishing industry is a massive industry generating a lot of wealth, but most of the regular workers are cheated out of the majority of their pay one way or another.

"Our" world is a relatively safe place. I guess we should be grateful for that. We also shouldn't forget that other places are not so nice.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:42 PM ET
World is using a lot more oil now than the 70s. Same with North America.

Kim Jong-un having launch codes is pretty scary. Good thing his ICBMs can not reach most targets.

Good for you quitting smoking.

I have Mike Smith on my fantasy hockey team.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:43 PM ET
It's not about sharing your views. You don't know what happened in the games! You do it all the time! You don't have to be a cheerleader. You don't cover basics. So many things happen in a game, That don't involve corsi. The Pens were outplayed! Your wrong! It can't be everyone else!
- Gomey


When have I ever written or pretended to write game recaps? This is not what I do. You two are whining about a non-existing problem.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:46 PM ET
Not so sure I agree about the world being a safer, less crime ridden place James. I think the problem is that we are sheltered in our country and don't see all the nasty things that happen everywhere else. North America might be fairly safe, but if you study some of the things that happen elsewhere it's a totally different world.

I forget the name, but there's a documentary/show on lately featuring an investigative journalist that is looking into the attack on a fishing ship a few years ago off the coast of Somalia. Learning all the crazy stuff that goes on in the fishing industry is insane.

People tricked by promises of great pay basically used as slave labor working 20 hour days on boats that are barely seaworthy and totally unsanitary. They are abused, drugs are rampant, and they often take it into their own hands to deal with other ships in "their" territory, which sometimes means killing them all and sinking their ships. The fishing industry is a massive industry generating a lot of wealth, but most of the regular workers are cheated out of the majority of their pay one way or another.

"Our" world is a relatively safe place. I guess we should be grateful for that. We also shouldn't forget that other places are not so nice.

- Thecakeisalie



Well I was specifically talking about North America, but I am sure that technology and medical access has made the vast majority of the world better off than it was. There's obviously going to be problems. I am specifically writing back to the idea that we live in some kind of dystopian hellhole.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:50 PM ET
World is using a lot more oil now than the 70s. Same with North America.

Kim Jong-un having launch codes is pretty scary. Good thing his ICBMs can not reach most targets.

Good for you quitting smoking.

I have Mike Smith on my fantasy hockey team.

- Leafsandbolts


True, but we're more efficient in using it, and it's dropped compared to 2006, which is when we peaked. (hopefully).

Does North Korea even have Nukes? I don't believe they do.

Thanks.

That can be a good or bad thing, not good for wins anyways.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 9:06 PM ET
True, but we're more efficient in using it, and it's dropped compared to 2006, which is when we peaked. (hopefully).

Does North Korea even have Nukes? I don't believe they do.

Thanks.

That can be a good or bad thing, not good for wins anyways.

- James_Tanner


It's pretty easy to use the internet to find answers to that question.

Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Feb 12 @ 10:30 PM ET
True, but we're more efficient in using it, and it's dropped compared to 2006, which is when we peaked. (hopefully).

Does North Korea even have Nukes? I don't believe they do.

Thanks.

That can be a good or bad thing, not good for wins anyways.

- James_Tanner




Smith was an ok pickup after Halak sent down.

Oil consumption is higher than 2006. Think globally. GNP is still correlated to energy consumption.

http://www.indexmundi.com/energy/

North Korea definitely has nuclear weapons and crappy ICBMs.
hbk
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 12 @ 10:48 PM ET
When have I ever written or pretended to write game recaps? This is not what I do. You two are whining about a non-existing problem.
- James_Tanner

No. You take cheap shots on a team and refuse to ever say anything positive. It's the easy story and hey the Coyotes don't have any fans so who's going to say anything when you comment that Crosby didn't garner a point and then fail to mention anything about gameplan or stellar play by Hanzal. that would be interesting. You take the cheap shot. It's what you do. Review the last five wins and the columns you wrote the next day. I'm not wrong. Nothing positive (that was actually relevant). Your narrative is written before each game. Continue to take the low road. It's the only one you know.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:47 PM ET
True, but we're more efficient in using it, and it's dropped compared to 2006, which is when we peaked. (hopefully).

Does North Korea even have Nukes? I don't believe they do.

Thanks.

That can be a good or bad thing, not good for wins anyways.

- James_Tanner


James: Not fake news

https://www.bloomberg.com...ile-s-korea-military-says
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 13 @ 2:28 AM ET
You're sarcasm is lame, unwarranted and annoying. If you have nothing to contribute....

I mean, if you can find me one person who even predicted Backstrom would be in the Top Ten in scoring, I'll eat my hat. Otherwise, you've just made the worst comment in hockeybuzz history. Congrats.

- James_Tanner


I feel like you say this once a week.

Also, thanks for spoiling Sunny for me.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 13 @ 2:32 AM ET
True, but we're more efficient in using it, and it's dropped compared to 2006, which is when we peaked. (hopefully).

Does North Korea even have Nukes? I don't believe they do.

Thanks.

That can be a good or bad thing, not good for wins anyways.

- James_Tanner



Yes. Kind of. We know there have been nuclear detonations emanating from North Korea by the types of waves from the "earthquakes" that have their epicenter at their atomic testing facility, and those particular waves only come from nuclear explosions. And they get bigger every time. I'm not saying they have deliverable(even from a plane) nukes yet, but they certainly have detonated a few underground.
beerkeeper30
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: palatine, IL
Joined: 02.27.2015

Feb 13 @ 3:32 AM ET
I rarely comment, but I had to mention this was probably the best +/- ive read. Tanner, I get you dog.. The trump tweet from Mr. Bobby was pure gold as well!!
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Feb 13 @ 6:52 AM ET
I mean, if you can find me one person who even predicted Backstrom would be in the Top Ten in scoring, I'll eat my hat. Otherwise, you've just made the worst comment in hockeybuzz history. Congrats.

Really James? No trolling here my friend, but Backstrom is thought by MOST to be a top 10 scorer. You said you thought Backstrom in top 5 more surprising that Burns in top 5. Not by pools I am in.

I am in a 24 player pool where it is simply Pick the Top 15 scorers for this year. Done just before the season started. 20 of the 24 teams had Backstrom on their roster. Hardly underrated. In comparison, Burns just on 8.

I would also venture to say, if you read pre-season projections from TSN, Sportsnet or any other publication you would see much the same. Backstrom as a Top 5-15 scorer.

For a time, Backstrom MAY have been underrated. But, I think most REAL hockey fans see him as a Top 10 scorer and one of the best centers in the league.

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 13 @ 6:58 AM ET
I don't care what you think.
- James_Tanner


nobody who has their own Geico commercial that played every 5 minutes for two years is underrated
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Feb 13 @ 7:00 AM ET
I mean, if you can find me one person who even predicted Backstrom would be in the Top Ten in scoring, I'll eat my hat. Otherwise, you've just made the worst comment in hockeybuzz history. Congrats.

Really James? No trolling here my friend, but Backstrom is thought by MOST to be a top 10 scorer. You said you thought Backstrom in top 5 more surprising that Burns in top 5. Not by pools I am in.

I am in a 24 player pool where it is simply Pick the Top 15 scorers for this year. Done just before the season started. 20 of the 24 teams had Backstrom on their roster. Hardly underrated. In comparison, Burns just on 8.

I would also venture to say, if you read pre-season projections from TSN, Sportsnet or any other publication you would see much the same. Backstrom as a Top 5-15 scorer.

For a time, Backstrom MAY have been underrated. But, I think most REAL hockey fans see him as a Top 10 scorer and one of the best centers in the league.


- hawk35



TSN, Sept, 2016.....Projected Top 300 in points:

http://www.tsn.ca/crosby-...rojected-scorers-1.565371

Backstrom.....9th
Burns...........33rd

Now, you may make some comment on the skills in predicting by TSN, but I don't think these projections are so totally outta wack for most hockey watchers going into the season. The REAL point being. How is 9th rated Backstrom so UNDERRATED and surprising to be in Top 5 when he was projected to be Top 10 anyway. So, your calling the other posters lame for bringing this up seems quite unwarranted.


Later James. Keep up the good work.



Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:59 AM ET
I guarantee you he won't last four years. Also, no one cares if a Republican was Pres. We only care that a mentally unstable maniac is in charge. Also, I'd be real careful about making this a left/ right thing. At this point its a crazy vs sane thing.

Keep in mind that Republican Senators have been talking about his mental health. Republicans.

Actually I rescind the guarantee. I would have and probably did gaurantee he would never win. All bets are off with this guy. Honestly, if it came out he was Richard Cheney in a Trump Mission Impossible mask, I wouldn't bat an eye.

- James_Tanner

The only person's mental stability that should be questioned on this thread is yours.
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Feb 13 @ 11:01 AM ET
yes and apparently you have to go to the comments or another site to get it.

AZ dictated play. Deserved the win. You didn't see that. Okay...

You ignore saying anything about Hanzal shutting down Crosby. 24 mins played. 4 hits. The statement game of the season for trade value. To highlight the huge gapping hole trading him creates for the future. Doesn't meet your journalistic standard?

Was anything positive said about Dvorak and his two goals the other night? Nope. Doesn't fit the negative narrative. Fluky win. Miracles happen.

Five wins in last eight games. No positive comments. None. Hard to take you seriously when it's all negative all the time.

I appreciate the negative when it's called for but for you to have gone through this last stretch without anything remotely positive is just a full out insult to anyone's who watches the. Team. It's impossible to take the negative seriously when you ignore all the positives.

- hbk


How does AZ dictate the play when they were outshot 31-25 and out attempted 62-43? It's either poor goaltending by Pitts or good goaltending by AZ or luck? I'll let you pick.



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