All kidding aside Kinigitt but I hadn't seen Oduya's play from earlier this year, was he playing up to his usual standards or had he slowed down a bit.....ala Campbell?

Palat cap hit is better than Duchene cap hit.

Palat trade scenarios better than Duchene trade scenarios.

Hard to judge Oduya's play based on numbers. He's the best defenseman in Dallas besides Klingberg. Their only shut down guy that does his job. System and goaltending arent friendly to D men stats in Dallas.

Alright who hacked Hockeybuzz?

Looks like access to the new blog is now good...

They already had a Hossa moment. Granted, not the end of a career. But many retire before his age.
- kinigitt

400 or so of Hossa's career pts w. the Hawks, and 73 in the playoffs (roughly one third and one half of his career #'s respectively). No cups for Toews/Kane before Hoss arrived. Sorry Kinigitt, this is a core player.

400 or so of Hossa's career pts w. the Hawks, and 73 in the playoffs (roughly one third and one half of his career #'s respectively). No cups for Toews/Kane before Hoss arrived. Sorry Kinigitt, this is a core player.
- meta_puck_luck

So we need to get a cup for Iginla in order to be considered a dynasty? This is seriously dumb.

The 90s Avalanche aren't a dynasty because Bourque got his (well-deserved) cup playing for them.

So we need to get a cup for Iginla in order to be considered a dynasty? This is seriously dumb.

The 90s Avalanche aren't a dynasty because Bourque got his (well-deserved) cup playing for them.
- kinigitt

Not here to debate whether it's dumb. I guess most things that are brave and noble are "dumb" in a way. What's not debatable: the greatest teams have attempted this as another mark of true dynasty. Not the most important mark, perhaps, but highly meaningful. Patrick Roy said of Bourque, "A name was missing from that [Cup], and today it is back to normal." Apparently the Hawks' own fans don't believe they're great enough to achieve this with Iginla. Fine, but shying away from iconic moments is telling indeed for your place in history.