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Feb 10 @ 11:20 PM ET
Boston was willing to give Pastrnak and a first at the draft, and backed off when Blues wanted 2 firsts and Pastrnak. I know it's been a long time since Edmonton was a buyer at the deadline, but you might want to look at the deals made the last few trade deadlines and re-calibrate your trade ideas. Because a conditional first and Davidson as the basis of a deal is laughable.
And FYI for this deadline: Players have null value to teams who wouldn't be able to protect them at the trade deadline. Like Davidson to the Blues. - Antilles
The Blues couldn't get that package when there was still a full year of contract.
He is now a pure rental for most teams. The package is not getting better for the Blues, who will surely lose him for nothing after the season.
I personally think the a 1st, a 3rd and Reinhart is more than enough. I am not wanting to give up too much for a UFA that would not commit to wanting to signing.
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Feb 10 @ 11:20 PM ET
The Blues couldn't get that package when there was still a full year of contract.
He is now a pure rental for most teams. The package is not getting better for the Blues, who will surely lose him for nothing after the season.
I personally think the a 1st, a 3rd and Reinhart is more than enough. I am not wanting to give up too much for a UFA that would not commit to wanting to signing. - McSavioursPupil
Obviously you can't argue with the fact that Shattenkirk is the obvious best on this list of rentals. He is exactly what the Oil need long term. A top 5 offensive defenseman and finally a legitimate top pairing player. Its been a long time since they have had one. No question that he would be the dream but we are Oiler fans and I am not holding my breath.
So along more realistic lines. I think for a playoff run adding a couple key guys couldn't hurt. Not a Franson fan but he is big and the Oilers blue line could use more depth. Kulikov might be a gamble but as a rental I don't see how they could go wrong. It might pay off huge.
As for forwards. I like Vanek. He has a strong level of compete and he can play either wing. That allows the Oilers to throw out tons of different lines which is big as teams in the playoffs will try to match us for once to shutdown our top 2 players rather than the other way around. McDavid and Draisaitl are dangerous together or apart. With that said I really like sharp. He plays a huge two way game. Him and Nuge running PKs and splitting them if there are multiple is a huge plus. Both are centers and Sharp can play wing. Plus he has been down the road. A veteran with playoff and international final experience. A guy good under pressure. He might not be what he use to but he provides the Oilers lots of options in terms of their top 3 lines and special teams.
Also, with that said. I don't see that you could go wrong with Boyle Either. Worst case scenario he is a rental playing your third pairing. Best case he finds a spark with this young team and you get a top 4 guy. He was once amazing and to me this doesn't seem like a problem with lost skill as much as it is lost motivation. For part of 2 mil on a rental. Why not. Oilers are terrible with there round 3+ picks anyway and really if Boyle costs more than a round 4 then the Oilers suck at negotiating.
Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF Joined: 12.11.2015
Feb 11 @ 12:33 AM ET
Obviously you can't argue with the fact that Shattenkirk is the obvious best on this list of rentals. He is exactly what the Oil need long term. A top 5 offensive defenseman and finally a legitimate top pairing player. Its been a long time since they have had one. No question that he would be the dream but we are Oiler fans and I am not holding my breath.
So along more realistic lines. I think for a playoff run adding a couple key guys couldn't hurt. Not a Franson fan but he is big and the Oilers blue line could use more depth. Kulikov might be a gamble but as a rental I don't see how they could go wrong. It might pay off huge.
As for forwards. I like Vanek. He has a strong level of compete and he can play either wing. That allows the Oilers to throw out tons of different lines which is big as teams in the playoffs will try to match us for once to shutdown our top 2 players rather than the other way around. McDavid and Draisaitl are dangerous together or apart. With that said I really like sharp. He plays a huge two way game. Him and Nuge running PKs and splitting them if there are multiple is a huge plus. Both are centers and Sharp can play wing. Plus he has been down the road. A veteran with playoff and international final experience. A guy good under pressure. He might not be what he use to but he provides the Oilers lots of options in terms of their top 3 lines and special teams.
Also, with that said. I don't see that you could go wrong with Boyle Either. Worst case scenario he is a rental playing your third pairing. Best case he finds a spark with this young team and you get a top 4 guy. He was once amazing and to me this doesn't seem like a problem with lost skill as much as it is lost motivation. For part of 2 mil on a rental. Why not. Oilers are terrible with there round 3+ picks anyway and really if Boyle costs more than a round 4 then the Oilers suck at negotiating. - Hall Fan
oh jeez
That said...I would not be opposed to getting Sharp as a rental.
Obviously you can't argue with the fact that Shattenkirk is the obvious best on this list of rentals. He is exactly what the Oil need long term. A top 5 offensive defenseman and finally a legitimate top pairing player. Its been a long time since they have had one. No question that he would be the dream but we are Oiler fans and I am not holding my breath.
So along more realistic lines. I think for a playoff run adding a couple key guys couldn't hurt. Not a Franson fan but he is big and the Oilers blue line could use more depth. Kulikov might be a gamble but as a rental I don't see how they could go wrong. It might pay off huge.
As for forwards. I like Vanek. He has a strong level of compete and he can play either wing. That allows the Oilers to throw out tons of different lines which is big as teams in the playoffs will try to match us for once to shutdown our top 2 players rather than the other way around. McDavid and Draisaitl are dangerous together or apart. With that said I really like sharp. He plays a huge two way game. Him and Nuge running PKs and splitting them if there are multiple is a huge plus. Both are centers and Sharp can play wing. Plus he has been down the road. A veteran with playoff and international final experience. A guy good under pressure. He might not be what he use to but he provides the Oilers lots of options in terms of their top 3 lines and special teams.
Also, with that said. I don't see that you could go wrong with Boyle Either. Worst case scenario he is a rental playing your third pairing. Best case he finds a spark with this young team and you get a top 4 guy. He was once amazing and to me this doesn't seem like a problem with lost skill as much as it is lost motivation. For part of 2 mil on a rental. Why not. Oilers are terrible with there round 3+ picks anyway and really if Boyle costs more than a round 4 then the Oilers suck at negotiating. - Hall Fan
I was gonna ask whether or not you were aware we're discussing BRIAN Boyle (the forward) and that DAN Boyle (the Dman you're thinking of) has retired, but then I remembered I was talking to the guy who thinks Hedman will be exposed to expansion and that he's not worth his absolute steal of a new contract. That answered my question.
I was gonna ask whether or not you were aware we're discussing BRIAN Boyle (the forward) and that DAN Boyle (the Dman you're thinking of) has retired, but then I remembered I was talking to the guy who thinks Hedman will be exposed to expansion and that he's not worth his absolute steal of a new contract. That answered my question. - MaximumBone
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Feb 11 @ 3:18 AM ET
Obviously you can't argue with the fact that Shattenkirk is the obvious best on this list of rentals. He is exactly what the Oil need long term. A top 5 offensive defenseman and finally a legitimate top pairing player. Its been a long time since they have had one. No question that he would be the dream but we are Oiler fans and I am not holding my breath.
So along more realistic lines. I think for a playoff run adding a couple key guys couldn't hurt. Not a Franson fan but he is big and the Oilers blue line could use more depth. Kulikov might be a gamble but as a rental I don't see how they could go wrong. It might pay off huge.
As for forwards. I like Vanek. He has a strong level of compete and he can play either wing. That allows the Oilers to throw out tons of different lines which is big as teams in the playoffs will try to match us for once to shutdown our top 2 players rather than the other way around. McDavid and Draisaitl are dangerous together or apart. With that said I really like sharp. He plays a huge two way game. Him and Nuge running PKs and splitting them if there are multiple is a huge plus. Both are centers and Sharp can play wing. Plus he has been down the road. A veteran with playoff and international final experience. A guy good under pressure. He might not be what he use to but he provides the Oilers lots of options in terms of their top 3 lines and special teams.
Also, with that said. I don't see that you could go wrong with Boyle Either. Worst case scenario he is a rental playing your third pairing. Best case he finds a spark with this young team and you get a top 4 guy. He was once amazing and to me this doesn't seem like a problem with lost skill as much as it is lost motivation. For part of 2 mil on a rental. Why not. Oilers are terrible with there round 3+ picks anyway and really if Boyle costs more than a round 4 then the Oilers suck at negotiating. - Hall Fan
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Feb 11 @ 4:08 AM ET
Obviously you can't argue with the fact that Shattenkirk is the obvious best on this list of rentals. He is exactly what the Oil need long term. A top 5 offensive defenseman and finally a legitimate top pairing player. Its been a long time since they have had one. No question that he would be the dream but we are Oiler fans and I am not holding my breath.
So along more realistic lines. I think for a playoff run adding a couple key guys couldn't hurt. Not a Franson fan but he is big and the Oilers blue line could use more depth. Kulikov might be a gamble but as a rental I don't see how they could go wrong. It might pay off huge.
As for forwards. I like Vanek. He has a strong level of compete and he can play either wing. That allows the Oilers to throw out tons of different lines which is big as teams in the playoffs will try to match us for once to shutdown our top 2 players rather than the other way around. McDavid and Draisaitl are dangerous together or apart. With that said I really like sharp. He plays a huge two way game. Him and Nuge running PKs and splitting them if there are multiple is a huge plus. Both are centers and Sharp can play wing. Plus he has been down the road. A veteran with playoff and international final experience. A guy good under pressure. He might not be what he use to but he provides the Oilers lots of options in terms of their top 3 lines and special teams.
Also, with that said. I don't see that you could go wrong with Boyle Either. Worst case scenario he is a rental playing your third pairing. Best case he finds a spark with this young team and you get a top 4 guy. He was once amazing and to me this doesn't seem like a problem with lost skill as much as it is lost motivation. For part of 2 mil on a rental. Why not. Oilers are terrible with there round 3+ picks anyway and really if Boyle costs more than a round 4 then the Oilers suck at negotiating. - Hall Fan
Wow. For a guy who blows so much crap up all our a$$#$ like he knows what the fawk he's talking about with 20000 word responses... you just made yourself look as stubborn and dumb as iggy and Jero. Please tell us how you know better than a person paid 7 digits to do the job now too.
The Blues couldn't get that package when there was still a full year of contract.
He is now a pure rental for most teams. The package is not getting better for the Blues, who will surely lose him for nothing after the season.
I personally think the a 1st, a 3rd and Reinhart is more than enough. I am not wanting to give up too much for a UFA that would not commit to wanting to signing. - McSavioursPupil
A first, a third, and Reinhart is at least in the realm of possibility. I think Blues would want a prospect other than Reinhart, but regardless. A guy worse than Shatty Blues would lose in expansion draft and a first conditional on him resigning is absolutely ridiculous.
Obviously you can't argue with the fact that Shattenkirk is the obvious best on this list of rentals. He is exactly what the Oil need long term. A top 5 offensive defenseman and finally a legitimate top pairing player. Its been a long time since they have had one. No question that he would be the dream but we are Oiler fans and I am not holding my breath.
So along more realistic lines. I think for a playoff run adding a couple key guys couldn't hurt. Not a Franson fan but he is big and the Oilers blue line could use more depth. Kulikov might be a gamble but as a rental I don't see how they could go wrong. It might pay off huge.
As for forwards. I like Vanek. He has a strong level of compete and he can play either wing. That allows the Oilers to throw out tons of different lines which is big as teams in the playoffs will try to match us for once to shutdown our top 2 players rather than the other way around. McDavid and Draisaitl are dangerous together or apart. With that said I really like sharp. He plays a huge two way game. Him and Nuge running PKs and splitting them if there are multiple is a huge plus. Both are centers and Sharp can play wing. Plus he has been down the road. A veteran with playoff and international final experience. A guy good under pressure. He might not be what he use to but he provides the Oilers lots of options in terms of their top 3 lines and special teams.
Also, with that said. I don't see that you could go wrong with Boyle Either. Worst case scenario he is a rental playing your third pairing. Best case he finds a spark with this young team and you get a top 4 guy. He was once amazing and to me this doesn't seem like a problem with lost skill as much as it is lost motivation. For part of 2 mil on a rental. Why not. Oilers are terrible with there round 3+ picks anyway and really if Boyle costs more than a round 4 then the Oilers suck at negotiating. - Hall Fan
Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF Joined: 12.11.2015
Feb 11 @ 9:49 AM ET
A first, a third, and Reinhart is at least in the realm of possibility. I think Blues would want a prospect other than Reinhart, but regardless. A guy worse than Shatty Blues would lose in expansion draft and a first conditional on him resigning is absolutely ridiculous. - Antilles
In that case, the first is conditional on resigning (2nd in 2018), 3rd and Laleggia.
I'm really not interested in paying much of use for a pure rental.
Written by the most highly respected of Oilers writers. - Iggysbff
You have bashed him to me when what he wrote was not what you wanted to hear. I do believe that you said they were all only paid to say what the Oilers wanted as most MSM are.
You cannot pick and choose like that.
At the beginning of the season you kept saying how terrible it was and how Larrson sucks.
The team is winning. Not just on Talbot, not just on McD, Not just on Drai. A good part of it is the MUCH improved D, of which Larrson, and Russel, have played MAJOR components.
The only stat that matters in the end is the one counted in the W column, and w/o Hall, w/ Larrson the Oilers are making more W.
EDIT: There have been teams to do the D by committee successfully. Notable among them is the Canucks circa their SCF window. They had a bunch of solid Top 4 Dmen but no true Stud #1.
