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hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 10 @ 5:23 PM ET
at all.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 10 @ 5:25 PM ET
In my opinion you have that totally wrong. Gostisbehere has been poor defensively pretty much all season long. On the 3rd goal last night, which was a horrendous goal on Mason, look at Gostisbehere's stick position. He played that pretty poorly. Thats only one issue of many hes had.
- MJL



If you were the coach, would you bench him again or let him play through it?
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
The Flyers should leave Giroux unprotected in the expansion draft.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 10 @ 5:40 PM ET
The Flyers should leave Giroux unprotected in the expansion draft.
- Pixote Andolini


They can't. Nmc
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 5:44 PM ET
If you were the coach, would you bench him again or let him play through it?
- hockeylover



I'd personally let him play. He sat out 3 games. It's up to Gostisbehere now. He did some good things last night.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 10 @ 5:45 PM ET
Hockey is a weird game. The jets are going for a 5 game sweep of the hawks tonight
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 10 @ 6:01 PM ET
I'd personally let him play. He sat out 3 games. It's up to Gostisbehere now. He did some good things last night.
- MJL



Agreed.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 6:22 PM ET
Agreed.
- hockeylover



glad that's settled
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 10 @ 6:27 PM ET
glad that's settled
- ob18


Well, we were about to settle it like the Jets and the Sharks, 1950's gang style. so I'm personally relieved.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Feb 10 @ 7:20 PM ET
This team folded after it was 1-1. I didn't see much heart
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 10 @ 7:37 PM ET

FINALLY
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 10 @ 8:59 PM ET
I don't know if this has been brought up yet and please educate me on what I missed. The Jason Chimera goal. Ghost and Gudas are on the ice. It looks like Gudas missed an assignment or he's simply coming on the ice after a change and got lost in coverage, whatever, same thing.

Both players are right sided defensemen out there together. Why? Who is this on??

It was on Gudas, and it was a piss poor lack of on ice awareness. Sometimes only one defenseman gets to change, and pairings are mixed up for a shift or part of a shift.
- MJL


To me that's on Gudas no? Regardless of their positions that's where they are on the ice at the moment the play was developing. Ghost was clearly established on the right side to defend it. As to how they wound up out there together who knows
- Just5


I don't know why there were out there together,
but as far as the play I put it on Gudas there since
he was in the middle of the ice.

- Scoob


I agree with all of you.

Look, I know how I come off. For anyone who needs to hear this, I know I'm not right about everything. I'm a student of the game like anyone else. With this said, to me having two defenseman who have been playing on the right side for the majority of the season on the ice together in a half line change is on the bench boss. If I'm being fair both RD should be on the LW, which still leaves the RW wide open but what I'm saying is, why wasn't Brandon Manning sent on to the ice in the line change, who was Gudas' D partner on the left side.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 10 @ 9:15 PM ET
I don't know if this has been brought up yet and please educate me on what I missed. The Jason Chimera goal. Ghost and Gudas are on the ice. It looks like Gudas missed an assignment or he's simply coming on the ice after a change and got lost in coverage, whatever, same thing.

Both players are right sided defensemen out there together. Why? Who is this on??







I agree with all of you.

Look, I know how I come off. For anyone who needs to hear this, I know I'm not right about everything. I'm a student of the game like anyone else. With this said, to me having two defenseman who have been playing on the right side for the majority of the season on the ice together in a half line change is on the bench boss. If I'm being fair both RD should be on the LW, which still leaves the RW wide open but what I'm saying is, why wasn't Brandon Manning sent on to the ice in the line character, who was Gudas' D partner on the left side?

- SuperSchennBros

No one on here is going to know what was happening on the bench that led to Gudas coming on the ice with Ghost. However, that was a simple read and Gudas blew it.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 10 @ 9:40 PM ET
No one on here is going to know what was happening on the bench that led to Gudas coming on the ice with Ghost. However, that was a simple read and Gudas blew it.
- FlyerFan16


I agree. I just think the coach should be aware of who is put out there.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 10 @ 9:49 PM ET
I agree. I just think the coach should be aware of who is put out there.
- SuperSchennBros

Yes, it could have been a bad call. Don't know what was happening on the bench.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 10 @ 10:00 PM ET
I agree. I just think the coach should be aware of who is put out there.
- SuperSchennBros

Voracek made a bad decision on the play as well, he went toward the puck carrier but could have caught Chimera as well.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 10:23 PM ET
I agree. I just think the coach should be aware of who is put out there.
- SuperSchennBros



Gord Murphy changes the defense. I'm pretty sure that he is aware of who is put out there.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:10 PM ET
I agree. I just think the coach should be aware of who is put out there.
- SuperSchennBros

I never played at a high level, but when I played it was always the player's responsibility to pay attention to when the guy you're replacing is coming off. Right D replaces right D....right?
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 10 @ 11:11 PM ET
Gord Murphy changes the defense. I'm pretty sure that he is aware of who is put out there.
- MJL

And he's just saying which pairing is up next. The players know who their man is.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:17 PM ET
The Flyers turned the puck over while making a line change. D got screwed up and they gave up a goal. Big deal. Happens all the time. Maybe the Flyers could respond and score a (frank)ing goal!
Skinner
Joined: 11.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 11:24 PM ET
Regardless of the bad line change on the second goal, Wiese has to get it deep so they can line change, it's on Wiese before Gudas and Ghost. In saying that Mason needs to make those saves.
Skinner
Joined: 11.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 11:24 PM ET
Regardless of the bad line change on the second goal, Wiese has to get it deep so they can line change, it's on Wiese before Gudas and Ghost. In saying that Mason needs to make those saves.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
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Feb 11 @ 2:05 AM ET
Gord Murphy changes the defense. I'm pretty sure that he is aware of who is put out there.
- MJL

And this isn't odd to you or anyone else because one would think that Gudas would replace Gostisbehere.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 11 @ 6:53 AM ET
And this isn't odd to you or anyone else because one would think that Gudas would replace Gostisbehere.
- SuperSchennBros


I'd have to look at the situation and all the factors involved, but normally RD replaces RD. Regardless though, that is zero factor in the goal being scored. As was stated above. Puck doesn't get in deep enough, Isles stretch pass up, Gudas is not aware of Chimera, goal scored. Team breakdown.
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