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IvanBrovorov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.07.2017

Feb 10 @ 7:46 AM ET
It's ghosts fault. Send him upstairs next game hak.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 7:46 AM ET
My Observations:

-Thought Gostisbehere played well coming back in. Like Bill said not flawless but wasn't near the worst defenseman.

- What the hell was Gudas doing on the second goal.

- What the hell was Mason doing on goals 2 and 3.

- Right now it seems there is no leadership to follow. Giroux right now is pretty much invisible unless they are on the PP

- I think it's time to get Schenn on Giroux's wing. If not then maybe they should bring up someone like Carey from the Phantoms. I know he has done a lot on the PP but he has a good shot and maybe they need a shoot first type winger.

- This team is just hard to watch. No offense. No physicality. Just right now a very fragile team it seems.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:04 AM ET
Now I know how it felt to be a Leaf fan last year.
The only difference is they had Matthews as a reward for the honorific play.
blurop4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.07.2016

Feb 10 @ 8:15 AM ET
A few thoughts:

Pretty good game by Ghost, but his awful run of bad luck continues. Not sure he could do anything about the second goal (that's more on Gudas) and maybe he could have made it a little tougher on the third, but that should be a standard save for Mason.

Agree with comment about moving Schenn to wing on Giroux or Couturier line and giving Weal a shot at 3C. We can shelter him with plenty of O zone starts and maybe start getting some 5 on 5 offense from the 3rd line.

Let's try something like and see if we can generate some goals.

Raffl – G – Voracek
Schenn – Couturier – Simmonds
Cousins – Weal – Read
Lyubimov or VV – PEB – Weise
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:20 AM ET
Assuming we continue to slide in the standings, if we end up with a lottery pick, are there any 1C potential prospects outside of the 2 top picks (Patrick/Hischier)? I really haven't heard much about this draft other than its weaker compared to the previous two. I've heard a small amount about Rasmussen being a big centermen as well. Or even a winger that can actually score?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 8:21 AM ET
A few thoughts:

Pretty good game by Ghost, but his awful run of bad luck continues. Not sure he could do anything about the second goal (that's more on Gudas) and maybe he could have made it a little tougher on the third, but that should be a standard save for Mason.

Agree with comment about moving Schenn to wing on Giroux or Couturier line and giving Weal a shot at 3C. We can shelter him with plenty of O zone starts and maybe start getting some 5 on 5 offense from the 3rd line.

Let's try something like and see if we can generate some goals.

Raffl – G – Voracek
Schenn – Couturier – Simmonds
Cousins – Weal – Read
Lyubimov or VV – PEB – Weise

- blurop4


I am just done with Raffl on the tope line and Schenn in the middle. I actually think Schenn hasn't been terrible in the middle. Just think he is better on the wing.


Raffl to me is more 3rd liner with versatility.


jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 10 @ 8:21 AM ET
Assuming we continue to slide in the standings, if we end up with a lottery pick, are there any 1C potential prospects outside of the 2 top picks (Patrick/Hischier)? I really haven't heard much about this draft other than its weaker compared to the previous two. I've heard a small amount about Rasmussen being a big centermen as well. Or even a winger that can actually score?
- arichardson22


Yes there is, somebody else is out there.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 8:22 AM ET
Now I know how it felt to be a Leaf fan last year.
The only difference is they had Matthews as a reward for the honorific play.

- 3flyerkids


Don't worry. The Flyers will find their Matthews with the #11 pick in the draft!

The future is bright. Prospect pool is overflowing with kids who can put the puck in the net.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 10 @ 8:22 AM ET
I am just done with Raffl on the tope line and Schenn in the middle. I actually think Schenn hasn't been terrible in the middle. Just think he is better on the wing.


Raffl to me is more 3rd liner with versatility.

- J35Bacher


Here' s my problem. Coots has Simmonds with him. Wtf is that. Coots isn't a 2c nor can he score a goal or skate or make a freakin play anymore. Schenn has weise with him on his line. Wtf is that!!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 8:24 AM ET
Here' s my problem. Coots has Simmonds with him. Wtf is that. Coots isn't a 2c nor can he score a goal or skate or make a freakin play anymore. Schenn has weise with him on his line. Wtf is that!!
- jmdodgeser4


When they land a 1c in free agency, everyone slides down. Giroux 2c, Couturier 3c. Problem solved.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 10 @ 8:25 AM ET
Man, did that game suck last night. At this point I'm just enjoying watching Provorov. The rest of this team can pretty much go (frank) themselves, they play with as much heart and urgency that you normally see in a preseason game.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 10 @ 8:26 AM ET
When they land a 1c in free agency, everyone slides down. Giroux 2c, Couturier 3c. Problem solved.
- PLindbergh31


yup, Oh yah !!! I cant wait for us to sign hanzel this summer. Man he can do everything. He can...ummm..well, when hes not hurt he can sure glide around the ice like the best of them
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:30 AM ET
When they land a 1c in free agency, everyone slides down. Giroux 2c, Couturier 3c. Problem solved.
- PLindbergh31




The only thing Hextall will land in free agency is a couple 4th liners.. Ow wait... He probably resign VDV to a 5 year deal..
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:31 AM ET
Yes there is, somebody else is out there.
- jmdodgeser4


Thank you for your informative reply.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 10 @ 8:31 AM ET
The only thing Hextall will land in free agency is a couple 4th liners.. Ow wait... He probably resign VDV to a 5 year deal..
- 3flyerkids



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psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 8:32 AM ET
What a very Flyers thing to do, fall apart the season that the draft is full of crap. Couldn't be when there are franchise players available at the top.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 8:32 AM ET
Here' s my problem. Coots has Simmonds with him. Wtf is that. Coots isn't a 2c nor can he score a goal or skate or make a freakin play anymore. Schenn has weise with him on his line. Wtf is that!!
- jmdodgeser4



Couturier is always going to be a 2nd line center as long as they match him up against top lines. He just will. Also I think Couturier has struggled to produce this season. But I also think sometimes people blow out of proportion his supposed lack of skills.

At times his line of Voracek and konecny were always creating chances before Couturier got hurt. They were probably the most consistent line. Does he need to produce more..Yes. But we also need more out of Giroux, Schenn, Read, Raffl, Weise, Voracek, Mason and most of the defenseman.

Also for what Couturier is getting paid I think it is a bargin. And I still see a breakout coming from Couturier.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 10 @ 8:33 AM ET
Thank you for your informative reply.
- arichardson22


I'm ready to go out and get a lot of SOMEBODY ELSE and put them on this team.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:33 AM ET
Man, did that game suck last night. At this point I'm just enjoying watching Provorov. The rest of this team can pretty much go (frank) themselves, they play with as much heart and urgency that you normally see in a preseason game.
- BiggE

Agree ....

As I have said before time for Hextall to see what he can do.
Can he trade a core player. A change of scenery can give some players a reboot.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 10 @ 8:36 AM ET
Alright, which one of you morons broke the page?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 8:36 AM ET
When they land a 1c in free agency, everyone slides down. Giroux 2c, Couturier 3c. Problem solved.
- PLindbergh31



Well that isn't happening this year as there aren't any guys I want to spend money on and no clear cut 1c in FA.

Also I am not sure I want a 2c making over 8 million in cap space. Of they can get a potential top line center I would need to move Giroux.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 8:37 AM ET
The only thing Hextall will land in free agency is a couple 4th liners.. Ow wait... He probably resign VDV to a 5 year deal..
- 3flyerkids


On July 1 if VDV is resigned this website would melt.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 8:38 AM ET
Meh
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 8:40 AM ET
Horrible game on the ice.

Mason needs to forget those black pads. He had tracking issues once the puck got to him.

Gudas... ugh just ugh dude had a horrid game.

But I'm going to end this on a positive for the Flyers organization:

Inviting the Wissahickon team to the game last night was pure class. They were right near me. Then to add Lauren Hart singing the anthem in their jersey and doing her salute at the end towards them. Just plain class.

Also the fans and players saluting the team during the third period as they were shown on the board was a nice touch.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 10 @ 8:41 AM ET
Agree ....

As I have said before time for Hextall to see what he can do.
Can he trade a core player. A change of scenery can give some players a reboot.

- 3flyerkids

This season is done. I just want to see most, if not all of the following, on the team next year:

Stolarz
Sanheim
Morin
Hagg
Laughton
Leier
Lindblom

And I'd like to see Giroux traded and most of the following gone too:

Mason
Streit
Schultz
Del Zotto
Read
Raffl
Weise
Vandevelde

And finally, if you're keeping Hak, clean house on the assistants. He could use some help and these clowns aren't gonna give him any.

Enough is (frank)ing enough
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