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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 10 @ 3:15 PM ET
Would you say Tyler Seguin is a Cup level # 1 center?
- PLindbergh31


Maybe, but Dallas are the 28th best team in the league.

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 10 @ 3:15 PM ET
With the lack of knowledge I have on this upcoming class, as well as the lack of chatter on the draft, it would be great to hear any thoughts on some of the names. I thought I remembered correctly that you were the prospect/draft guy hah! If you back read, I questioned the talent at center earlier this morning hoping for someone to help
- arichardson22


There's a few guys here who watch prospects. But yeah I've been following it closely, and watching games, not highlights and copying and pasting like some think.

I'm busy now and am typing on my phone. Ask me another time when I'm posting about some guys and I'll be more thorough in an answer.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 3:18 PM ET
So then it's not like the team is using him terribly. The way the team is playing as caused the coach to try and adjust
- J35Bacher


Yes. Keep in mind, I didn't say he was being used incorrectly. I HAVE said that the system seems to be suffocating the offense out of its players.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 10 @ 3:19 PM ET
Well explain it again?

What are the Flyers asking from him that is terrible? How are they using him that isn't correct?

- J35Bacher


Page 12, 12:00pm today, on this blog.

Page 12, 10:12pm last night, on yesterday's blog.

I don't want to re-explain. If you did the leg work, you're only a couple clicks away.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 3:20 PM ET
Maybe, but Dallas are the 28th best team in the league.


- Feanor


Boston would prob rather have Seguin back then what they have left to show for that trade.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 10 @ 3:20 PM ET
There's a few guys here who watch prospects. But yeah I've been following it closely, and watching games, not highlights and copying and pasting like some think.

I'm busy now and am typing on my phone. Ask me another time when I'm posting about some guys and I'll be more thorough in an answer.

- Mononoke


Awesome sounds good! I'm on my phone as well and boy does it suck. Damn site is blocked at work.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 3:20 PM ET
Page 12, 12:00pm today, on this blog.

Page 12, 10:12pm last night, on yesterday's blog.

I don't want to re-explain. If you did the leg work, you're only a couple clicks away.

- SuperSchennBros


Two words: Plastics
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 3:20 PM ET
Yes. Keep in mind, I didn't say he was being used incorrectly. I HAVE said that the system seems to be suffocating the offense out of its players.
- jmatchett383



I could see that. And I didn't say you.

Just some keep stating that he is used incorrectly. But can't tell me exactly how. But I can understand the coach having to adjust because a team defense isn't there.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 10 @ 3:20 PM ET
Wiese back to a 2.6 million dollar cardboard standee?
- PLindbergh31



let me ask you this, based on the current roster and current play, who would your scratch be? and I don't mean the sit Giroux etc stuff. I mean legit who would you be sitting?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 3:22 PM ET
I could see that. And I didn't say you.

Just some keep stating that he is used incorrectly. But can't tell me exactly how. But I can understand the coach having to adjust because a team defense isn't there.

- J35Bacher


Two words: Backread
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 10 @ 3:23 PM ET
Boston would prob rather have Seguin back then what they have left to show for that trade.
- PLindbergh31


Boston fans never complain about anything ever because they won a Cup in the last dozen years. Same as Carolina fans.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 10 @ 3:24 PM ET
let me ask you this, based on the current roster and current play, who would your scratch be? and I don't mean the sit Giroux etc stuff. I mean legit who would you be sitting?
- nastyflyergirl


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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 3:25 PM ET
Page 12, 12:00pm today, on this blog.

Page 12, 10:12pm last night, on yesterday's blog.

I don't want to re-explain. If you did the leg work, you're only a couple clicks away.

- SuperSchennBros



So this quote:

With this said, if you want to sit developing players who have been nothing but an asset on a nightly basis for one game, fine. Three however is inexcusable. Indefensible. Gostisbehere is as dangerous an offensive threat on the Power Play as G, Jake, Simmonds and Schenn. Gostisbehere was clearly missed on the PP, which fell out of the top ten in the league and missed in OT last Saturday.

On top of this, in Gostisbehere's return, he's paired with a mirror older version of himself on the third pair. These are Coaching decisions. Does Hakstol want to win games or not? Because misusing players isn't giving the Flyers the best chance at winning. This isn't his first season as the bench boss. He should know his players by now.



That doesn't tell me how they are using him incorrectly.

-He's been on the top PP all season and wasn't producing.
- He's been making bad plays in his own zone at 5v5\
-He's paired with Streit now but he has played with almost everyone other then Provorov and was still struggling.




stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 3:26 PM ET
Maybe, but Dallas are the 28th best team in the league.


- Feanor

they should trade for fleury. he could have stopped that half of the time.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Feb 10 @ 3:26 PM ET
You mean 10G/10A Sam Bennett?
- jmatchett383


More like Sam *healthy scratch* Bennett.

In before Ghost healthy scratch jokes...
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 3:26 PM ET
Two words: Backread
- jmatchett383



If I did I am sorry but I am not back reading.

I only move forward.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 10 @ 3:29 PM ET
19 pages..
Did I miss anything good other than the 4th line is still trailing along like a hoard of zombies.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Feb 10 @ 3:29 PM ET
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- Feanor


But he's so good defensively. Gotta dictate the rest of our lineup around our other-worldly 4th line..
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 3:32 PM ET
Want a Cup level #1 center? Draft one because you aren't finding one another way. You guys are just listing players who aren't or won't be #1Cs (Bennett....RNH....Duchene, who though first line caliber probably is more a winger) but you know their names.....so recognition!

It's not as easy to accept this reality as it is to derive half baked trade proposals, but it is what it is.

- Mononoke


Stars did get Seguin by trade, but his situation was a little different and his 67 points in his age 20 season made him more of a sure bet to be a top line player than many of these other guys listed.

I agree with you. Most likely scenario is drafting one
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 3:34 PM ET
19 pages..
Did I miss anything good other than the 4th line is still trailing along like a hoard of zombies.

- opeth_pa


We're still trading Simmonds
Ghost is being used poorly because he's playing with Streit
I haven't taken a poop yet today.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 10 @ 3:40 PM ET
There's a few guys here who watch prospects. But yeah I've been following it closely, and watching games, not highlights and copying and pasting like some think.

I'm busy now and am typing on my phone. Ask me another time when I'm posting about some guys and I'll be more thorough in an answer.

- Mononoke


Can you put whatever your doing aside for a few minutes?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 10 @ 3:40 PM ET
San Jose has lost 3 games in a row, and allowed 14 goals while doing so.

What does that mean for tomorrow?

- PLindbergh31



flood gates baby!!! which for the flyers means 2 goals
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 3:42 PM ET
Want a Cup level #1 center? Draft one because you aren't finding one another way. You guys are just listing players who aren't or won't be #1Cs (Bennett....RNH....Duchene, who though first line caliber probably is more a winger) but you know their names.....so recognition!

It's not as easy to accept this reality as it is to derive half baked trade proposals, but it is what it is.

- Mononoke




jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 10 @ 3:45 PM ET
We're still trading Simmonds
Ghost is being used poorly because he's playing with Streit
I haven't taken a poop yet today.

- jmatchett383


It seems you don't watch the flyers enough then. When I watch them I immediately get the sh**s.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 10 @ 3:45 PM ET
let me ask you this, based on the current roster and current play, who would your scratch be? and I don't mean the sit Giroux etc stuff. I mean legit who would you be sitting?
- nastyflyergirl


To be honest, I know in the rules you prob can't do this, but I'd scratch about 4 or 5 guys and play with a 15 man roster to make a point. So many players are playing poorly, you can't scratch everyone. The fact Hakstol always dresses his binky boy VDV is sickening.
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