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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 2:21 PM ET
If not a top line, he's a very strong 2C.
- jmatchett383


Here's how we get our future center..

To Calgary: Simmonds, Mason, Gostisbehere, 1st rounder, 3rd rounder.

To Philly: Sam Bennett, Dougie Hamilton, Brian Elliott, Michal Ferland, 4th rounder.

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 2:28 PM ET
Here's how we get our future center..

To Calgary: Simmonds, Mason, Gostisbehere, 1st rounder, 3rd rounder.

To Philly: Sam Bennett, Dougie Hamilton, Brian Elliott, Michal Ferland, 4th rounder.


- J35Bacher


And all the talking heads on tv have their heads explode simultaneously.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 10 @ 2:28 PM ET
Here's how we get our future center..

To Calgary: Simmonds, Mason, Gostisbehere, 1st rounder, 3rd rounder.

To Philly: Sam Bennett, Dougie Hamilton, Brian Elliott, Michal Ferland, 4th rounder.


- J35Bacher


Johnny G or gtfo
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 2:32 PM ET
Here's how we get our future center..

To Calgary: Simmonds, Mason, Gostisbehere, 1st rounder, 3rd rounder.

To Philly: Sam Bennett, Dougie Hamilton, Brian Elliott, Michal Ferland, 4th rounder.


- J35Bacher


No way Calgary includes the 4th rounder.

Also, where's the top-line center?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 2:38 PM ET
No way Calgary includes the 4th rounder.

Also, where's the top-line center?

- jmatchett383


Bennett and he forgot we end up needing to do another trade for Freddie Hamilton.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 2:40 PM ET
No way Calgary includes the 4th rounder.

Also, where's the top-line center?

- jmatchett383



I don't make the deal without the 4th rounder.

haha.


J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
Bennett and he forgot we end up needing to do another trade for Freddie Hamilton.
- dragonoffrost



Fine.

Sub in Freddie for the 4th rounder.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
Bennett and he forgot we end up needing to do another trade for Freddie Hamilton.
- dragonoffrost


You mean 10G/10A Sam Bennett?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 2:42 PM ET
Fine.

Sub in Freddie for the 4th rounder.

- J35Bacher


The only Fred I want is Frederick Meyer IV.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 2:42 PM ET
You mean 10G/10A Sam Bennett?
- jmatchett383


I really need to work on projecting my sarcasm via typing
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 2:43 PM ET
The only Fred I want is Frederick Meyer IV.
- jmatchett383


I remember that dude
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 10 @ 2:43 PM ET
Can someone tell me how he is being used terribly?

He is still on the top PP, Still being asked to produce offense. The Flyers just want him to be more well rounded.

It's not like they are asking him to be a shutdown defender and stop shooting pucks.

- J35Bacher

Dude, two words, back read.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 2:44 PM ET
I remember that dude
- dragonoffrost


Do you remember who we traded him for?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
Dude, two words, back read.
- SuperSchennBros


Two more words: Good eats
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
On Ghost last night, It seemed he had a leash on him a bit and was really concentrating on not being burned for an odd man rush until the Isles went up 3-1 then the leash came off and away he went.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
Dude, two words, back read.
- SuperSchennBros



Well explain it again?

What are the Flyers asking from him that is terrible? How are they using him that isn't correct?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 2:49 PM ET
We need to bring back Erik Gustafsson.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 2:49 PM ET
Do you remember who we traded him for?
- jmatchett383


That would be the great Alexi Zhitnik
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 2:49 PM ET
I disagree 120%. Not just with you but pretty much everyone...

Him being out of the lineup really has less to do with his defense than it does with what he is doing on offense.

Let me pose this question for everyone. If he better or worse defensively in his own zone this year?

I dont think that much has changed. He isnt great, but he isnt terrible. The big difference is in his offense. He just isnt scoring like he did last year. Not scoring when you are an offensive d-man is gonna get you on the bench.

- jak521



In my opinion you have that totally wrong. Gostisbehere has been poor defensively pretty much all season long. On the 3rd goal last night, which was a horrendous goal on Mason, look at Gostisbehere's stick position. He played that pretty poorly. Thats only one issue of many hes had.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 2:50 PM ET
That would be the great Alexi Zhitnik
- J35Bacher


I'm no sure if I should be mildly impressed or upset that you remember that.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 10 @ 2:50 PM ET
That would be the great Alexi Zhitnik
- J35Bacher


Or as some called him Alexi Zhithead...
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 2:51 PM ET
I'm no sure if I should be mildly impressed or upset that you remember that.
- jmatchett383



I remember a lot.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
In my opinion you have that totally wrong. Gostisbehere has been poor defensively pretty much all season long. On the 3rd goal last night, which was a horrendous goal on Mason, look at Gostisbehere's stick position. He played that pretty poorly. Thats only one issue of many hes had.
- MJL


I agree. Last year, he was able to use his speed and aggressiveness to make up for his lack of strength and was serviceable defensively. This season, his defensive decision making has been off and he's been a fairly big liability.
IvanBrovorov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.07.2017

Feb 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
We need to bring back Erik Gustafsson.
- jmatchett383


Hal Gill would compliment him very nicely. Think they'd make a strong first pairing on this team.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
Or as some called him Alexi Zhithead...
- dragonoffrost



Well they were able to flip him for Coburn.
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