If we get a 4th for Burrows I'd be ecstatic. He has a bad contract and is a 4th liner at this point.
- CanuckDon

His contract is no issue to trade though.
Habs have 5-2nds in the next 2 drafts.
I think we can hold out for 1 of them.

Desharnais is UFA and wouldn't be protected so thats kinda pointless.

Pitts 2nd will be in the high 50's, plus they have less than a million $$ in cap space.

Miller to Dallas or Philly for a 3rd? I think he could get a 2nd if they're that desperate.
- Brooks_Light

exactly. He's a throw in. cap reasons only.
i think Hansen could fit under the cap by the tdl.
Goalies always seem to go for cheap imo.

just throwing things out there tho.
Not based in reality.

i actually believe that Van will make few, if any moves at the tdl.

exactly. He's a throw in. cap reasons only.
i think Hansen could fit under the cap by the tdl.
Goalies always seem to go for cheap imo.

just throwing things out there tho.
Not based in reality.

i actually believe that Van will make few, if any moves at the tdl.
- dbot

yeah you're probably right - Pitts could probably part with Jake Guentzel or Carter Rowney, that would be a decent return rather than a 2nd

yeah you're probably right - Pitts could probably part with Jake Guentzel or Carter Rowney, that would be a decent return rather than a 2nd
- Brooks_Light

Try telling that to a draftist.

the unknown potential of a draft pick is miles ahead of any prospect.

Try telling that to a draftist.

the unknown potential of a draft pick is miles ahead of any prospect.
- dbot

I love draft picks but it's pretty hilarious how much they are overrated here

'Not going ask guys to waive NTC's' was Bennings pre-emptive move to get the lazy/crazy media guys off the team's back for a bit. Might also help your negotiating position a bit if you don't announce to the world that you're having a garage sale.

Say what you want about Burrows, but both he and Hansen will be very attractive targets for contenders because of their extensive playoff experience and elite penalty-killing skills.
- YeOldTimer

Well said. If ppl relax a not read all things on face value it makes more sense.

I love draft picks but it's pretty hilarious how much they are overrated here
- CanuckDon

Thats why i tried throwing out some actual prospects - everyone went mute suddenly

Thats why i tried throwing out some actual prospects - everyone went mute suddenly
- Brooks_Light

How dare you suggest an old 20 year old versus an unknown 17 year old

Desharnais is UFA and wouldn't be protected so thats kinda pointless.

Pitts 2nd will be in the high 50's, plus they have less than a million $$ in cap space.

Miller to Dallas or Philly for a 3rd? I think he could get a 2nd if they're that desperate.
- Brooks_Light

Has no value and allows them the cap to make another move.

Thats why i tried throwing out some actual prospects - everyone went mute suddenly
- Brooks_Light

The reality is that most prospects that are any good don't get moved and if they do it is for really good players, something that Vancouver doesn't have/won't be able to move.

Prospects that are available and that a Hansen or Sbisa etc. would fetch generally have some red flags and are usually disappointing for some reason or another and likely will never hit the potential that they once had.

Why a 2nd round pick is attractive is there is still that chance you can get lucky and hit a home run. The Canucks have had 1 home run draft pick since the Edler and Schneider in 04.

The reality is that most prospects that are any good don't get moved and if they do it is for really good players, something that Vancouver doesn't have/won't be able to move.

Prospects that are available and that a Hansen or Sbisa etc. would fetch generally have some red flags and are usually disappointing for some reason or another and likely will never hit the potential that they once had.

Why a 2nd round pick is attractive is there is still that chance you can get lucky and hit a home run. The Canucks have had 1 home run draft pick since the Edler and Schneider in 04.
- belcherbd

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- CanuckDon

Yep, its the most exciting thing about this team right now.

The reality is that most prospects that are any good don't get moved and if they do it is for really good players, something that Vancouver doesn't have/won't be able to move.

Prospects that are available and that a Hansen or Sbisa etc. would fetch generally have some red flags and are usually disappointing for some reason or another and likely will never hit the potential that they once had.

Why a 2nd round pick is attractive is there is still that chance you can get lucky and hit a home run. The Canucks have had 1 home run draft pick since the Edler and Schneider in 04.
- belcherbd

I don't think outta the 5-7 prospects that I suggested that any of them are unmovable for a Hanson type player or generally have red flags. They all have potential and are on the latter part of the development phase and about to step into the NHL, theres definitely room/opportunity in our mediocre lineup.

To your final point, Nuck fans loves us a hidden gem in the 2nd or latter rounds tho!

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- CanuckDon

exactly.

Fair....although he was 100% correct in his assessment of the Canucks.
- LeftCoaster

Say what you want about Torts, this is simply the truth.

Yep, its the most exciting thing about this team right now.
- belcherbd

Is it bad that our 2017 3rd and 4th round picks are more exciting than our first line?

The reality is that most prospects that are any good don't get moved and if they do it is for really good players, something that Vancouver doesn't have/won't be able to move.

Prospects that are available and that a Hansen or Sbisa etc. would fetch generally have some red flags and are usually disappointing for some reason or another and likely will never hit the potential that they once had.

Why a 2nd round pick is attractive is there is still that chance you can get lucky and hit a home run. The Canucks have had 1 home run draft pick since the Edler and Schneider in 04.
- belcherbd

I usually aim pretty low, but this is a little ridiculous.

I usually aim pretty low, but this is a little ridiculous.
- neem55

He is obviously forgetting about Subban and Franky Corrado

in fantasy land, i like Burrows and Sbisa to Mtl.
Not sure how you'd make the salary work, but perhaps we could take Dijonaise back, plus picks and prospects.
- dbot

Yesterday i suggested Desharnais and 2nd for Sbisa, taking cap & expansion exposure into consideration.
I think Burrows could get us a 4th, but if we got a 1st instead of 2nd & 4th by all means let's do it.

I don't think outta the 5-7 prospects that I suggested that any of them are unmovable for a Hanson type player or generally have red flags. They all have potential and are on the latter part of the development phase and about to step into the NHL, theres definitely room/opportunity in our mediocre lineup.

To your final point, Nuck fans loves us a hidden gem in the 2nd or latter rounds tho!
- Brooks_Light

I don't think McCarron or Sherbak or Chlapik would be available for Hansen but you never know. I think those guys still are seen as good prospects and their team would be more loathe to move them.

Yesterday i suggested Desharnais and 2nd for Sbisa, taking cap & expansion exposure into consideration.
I think Burrows could get us a 4th, but if we got a 1st instead of 2nd & 4th by all means let's do it.
- Reubenkincade

If Fiddler got a 4th, burrows is likely a 3rd. Or a 4th + 5th.

He is obviously forgetting about Subban and Franky Corrado
- CanuckDon

Actually he's right, I didn't think it was possible that we could have drafted so poorly since Burke left. I was wrong. To be fair, It looks like weve got a few home runs out of the last two drafts, but they haven't played in the show yet so who knows.
In case you guys dont know hockey database, you're welcome this site is unreal
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00008756.html

I usually aim pretty low, but this is a little ridiculous.
- neem55

I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with?

I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with?
- belcherbd

I don't actually, I thought I did but upon further inspection saw you were quite right. Burke sure did draft well though.
Also Edler and Hansen were also home runs in the same year as Schnieder.

I don't think McCarron or Sherbak or Chlapik would be available for Hansen but you never know. I think those guys still are seen as good prospects and their team would be more loathe to move them.
- belcherbd

They were picked between 25-70 so they're not home runs, BUT they're not high end picks, like Brown, Chabot, Juulson, Sergachev.

Hanson brings a lot to the table, very dynamic player, you gotta give to get...figured Id throw some names out there for conversation sake. I'm very interested to see what Hanson can get, IF he moves.

Fiddler got a 4th so Hanson gotta get at least a 2nd, you'd think?