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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 7 @ 4:51 PM ET
Sucks when the previous GM leaves you handcuffed to the 2011 core... how do you tear down the Sedins? Edler? Burrows won't be here next season but had an NTC/NMC. Trading Hansen made little sense if you couldn't do the tear down a couple of seasons ago... if your only choice is to ride out the term and hope you get the green light at the end of the contract, then keep Hansen.

The expansion draft and Burrows expiring contract change a few things moving forward so Benning is probably going to make a couple of trades. I never thought for a second his comments about vets were written in stone of even taken in the correct context. These most recent comments out of Benning and Burrows gives me a sense that the team is well aware of the make or break point we are at and it's a monster of a long shot. I wouldn't expect anything big but I sense we are going to get a couple of picks between the 2nd and 4rth rounds before the TDL passes. Between UFA Burrows, exposing a young player to protect Hansen or losing him in the expansion draft, and the recent comments from JB saying if they make a trade, they will probably move a D... plus Sbisa earning JB some asset value and vulnerable to the expansion draft, I do expect a couple of moves.

- boonerbuck


I've said it before, this draft year isn't big with superstar calibre talent, there's definitely potential but it's guaranteed. This wasn't the year for the team to try and sell off assets when most teams aren't going to take on expiring contracts when they have to make decisions on who they want to protect. You aren't going to see a lot of draft picks being moved this TDL, it's going to be more expiring contract for expiring contract type movesc and/or with players that the teams were going to lose either way either via FA or by LV picking them in the expansion draft.

You aren't going to see draft picks moved until after LV has the expansion draft and teams know who they have left and who LV is going to sign before FA even starts. Don't forget that the expansion draft takes place 2 weeks before the Entry Draft and during that time LV has exclusive rights to talk to pending RFAs and UFAs and sign them.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:57 PM ET
If we get a 4th for Burrows I'd be ecstatic. He has a bad contract and is a 4th liner at this point.
- CanuckDon



I heard the Kuzma interview this morning. Burrows has a good playoff performance record . He has 19 playoff goals and 15 assists. He is always in the middle of the fights and always running to the rescue.

His contract which in fact was only 3 mil this year at the time of TDL may only cost 1 mil for a rental
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Feb 7 @ 4:57 PM ET
If we took back a salary, i wonder is Hansen + Burrows for MTL 1st would work. Those two would instantly solidify a good bottom 6 for MTL and make them favorites to win.
- Retinalz


I don't think Montreal needs both of them -Burrows hopefully. But they arguably have one of the best fourth lines in the NHL with Lehkonen, Mitchell, Flynn and sometimes Deshairnais or Plekanec fills in depending on injuries.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Feb 7 @ 5:00 PM ET
I don't think Montreal needs both of them -Burrows hopefully. But they arguably have one of the best fourth lines in the NHL with Lehkonen, Mitchell, Flynn and sometimes Deshairnais or Plekanec fills in depending on injuries.
- Brooks_Light



Hansen to Columbus for Bjorkstrand and a 2nd........please crystal ball dont let me down.....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:00 PM ET
Even our mentors have mentors
- CanuckDon



Amen brother lemming
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Feb 7 @ 5:02 PM ET
Hansen to Columbus for Bjorkstrand and a 2nd........please crystal ball dont let me down.....
- chompsey


Who in the sweet F&%k is Bjorkstrand?
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:07 PM ET
Who in the sweet F&%k is Bjorkstrand?
- Brooks_Light


..and hopefully not the same 2nd CB already owes the Canucks for Torts.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Feb 7 @ 5:14 PM ET
..and hopefully not the same 2nd CB already owes the Canucks for Torts.
- YeOldTimer


and hopefully not some AHL plug thats name are the lyrics to the Swedish chefs song
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
I've said it before, this draft year isn't big with superstar calibre talent, there's definitely potential but it's guaranteed. This wasn't the year for the team to try and sell off assets when most teams aren't going to take on expiring contracts when they have to make decisions on who they want to protect. You aren't going to see a lot of draft picks being moved this TDL, it's going to be more expiring contract for expiring contract type movesc and/or with players that the teams were going to lose either way either via FA or by LV picking them in the expansion draft.

You aren't going to see draft picks moved until after LV has the expansion draft and teams know who they have left and who LV is going to sign before FA even starts. Don't forget that the expansion draft takes place 2 weeks before the Entry Draft and during that time LV has exclusive rights to talk to pending RFAs and UFAs and sign them.

- DariusKnight



This is the concern on trade movement. Guess it will come down to what GM's are willing to gamble to go for it.

Believe the Vegas "right to talk to pending free agents" is if they want to pick them for the expansion draft. They need to talk to them to put a deal in place to sign so they have something to go on picking them from a team. Not sure if there is another angle to this?

Like if Vegas doesn't pick them in expansion draft. The team holding their rights could sign them before free agency opens.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 7 @ 5:17 PM ET
LOL hmmm ....stay in frozen hell Edmonton....or sunny Los Angeles
- Bullfrog77


Did he look like he wanted to go to LA when the trade was announced?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:18 PM ET
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:19 PM ET
Did he look like he wanted to go to LA when the trade was announced?

- boonerbuck

Through all the tears, yes.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 7 @ 5:19 PM ET
'Not going ask guys to waive NTC's' was Bennings pre-emptive move to get the lazy/crazy media guys off the team's back for a bit. Might also help your negotiating position a bit if you don't announce to the world that you're having a garage sale.

Say what you want about Burrows, but both he and Hansen will be very attractive targets for contenders because of their extensive playoff experience and elite penalty-killing skills.

- YeOldTimer


Totally agree. Also, it can't be ignored that it could also be taken as dual meaning,,, "if they want to be moved, I'm open for business".
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Feb 7 @ 5:19 PM ET
Did he look like he wanted to go to LA when the trade was announced?

- boonerbuck


He promised Mess he wouldnt do this...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 7 @ 5:20 PM ET
This makes sense and looks probable. Total contrast of reasoning to the panicking and Thesorus interpretations.
- Nuck4U





I'll give you credit for always trying to start with a clean slate with people the next day.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 7 @ 5:24 PM ET
I heard the Kuzma interview this morning. Burrows has a good playoff performance record . He has 19 playoff goals and 15 assists. He is always in the middle of the fights and always running to the rescue.

His contract which in fact was only 3 mil this year at the time of TDL may only cost 1 mil for a rental

- VANTEL



Have you noticed since this that the pending game is of little importance? There seems to be forgone conclusions as to outcome.

Wonder what the players are thinking? Plus what will they do? Play harder or give in to the expected outcome?

Last time they were faced with these "expectations" earlier this season they turned things around. These games now have extra meaning. It will be interesting to say the least.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 7 @ 5:25 PM ET
Hansen to Columbus for Bjorkstrand and a 2nd........please crystal ball dont let me down.....
- chompsey


You are joking right? Torts absolutely treated Hansen like a piece of garbage. Screaming in his ear over things that were not his fault...one of his whipping boys... when he was one of the hardest workers on the ice. Hansen also has a limited NTC... I highly doubt any team being coached by Torts is going to be on Hansen's list of 8 teams.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 7 @ 5:29 PM ET
and hopefully not some AHL plug thats name are the lyrics to the Swedish chefs song
- Brooks_Light

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=92803

21 y/o and could be an effected 3rd line RW in the future, decent numbers in AHL this year, decent NHL numbers. Put up 4g4a as a 20 y/o in 12 games last season. Only 1 a in 5 this, but that is nothing to worry about. The thing with this would be that we would have CBJ 17/18 2nd for Hansen plus this kid. Then we get the other of the two from Torts. Would be a good deal for us IF it happened. Hansen will NOT put CBJ on his 8 team list. Won't waive for Torts hell IMO.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 7 @ 5:32 PM ET
You are joking right? Torts absolutely treated Hansen like a piece of garbage. Screaming in his ear over things that were not his fault...one of his whipping boys... when he was one of the hardest workers on the ice. Hansen also has a limited NTC... I highly doubt any team being coached by Torts is going to be on Hansen's list of 8 teams.
- boonerbuck


walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 7 @ 5:34 PM ET

- bloatedmosquito



Hansen should've lamped him
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 7 @ 5:35 PM ET
Now Edler...

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 7 @ 5:37 PM ET

- bloatedmosquito


Super impressed with Hansen being able to ignore Torts there. I would have turned around and given him a shot to the chin once he started tapping me with his finger.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 7 @ 5:38 PM ET
Now Edler...


- bloatedmosquito



The Country Club hated him
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 7 @ 5:38 PM ET
Now Edler...


- bloatedmosquito


Treats his Dogs better than he does his players.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 7 @ 5:40 PM ET


Hansen should've lamped him

- walshyleafsfan


Should have given him the ole radulov...

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