Andersen
- Steven_Seagull

Carrick

You wonderful people on here ever think that the +/- will ever be looked at the way it should be? As in, ignored? I hate it. Now I know what you're thinking, I'm not a scout or some twitter guy who pretends to know all the analytical poop. Seriously, it's dumb. When was it "invented"? late 70's?
- weirdoh

Its the conclusions drawn from it and how much weight it has in forming opinions that bugs me.
There are better ways to look at that stuff. Its just plus minus is easy to calculate and understand so everyone uses it.

Faceoffs are the same. Have value in a game but not to the extent its trumpeted

Andersen sucks

Atta boy. Nice stop

Carrick
- Garnie

Who?

We said that about Dion for ages. Turns out he was just poop.
- walshyleafsfan

Dion is a fine 2nd pairing d man.

Overpaid for sure. But he's a clear 2nd pairing.

Whoa now! I haven't done anything to warrant such an outburst from you and I think I'm deserved an apology.
- weirdoh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9AuZR5gLL0

Need a lot of shot attempts to make up for his bonehead mistakes.

I know there's no tracking of it.....but it would be nice to see.

I think he's improved....but Corsi doesn't always equal talent IMO


- Garnie

Would some people not consider that heresy?

mitch MARNER!!!! GOAL!

What a pass by Marner Bozak???

Marner

Need a lot of shot attempts to make up for his bonehead mistakes.

I know there's no tracking of it.....but it would be nice to see.

I think he's improved....but Corsi doesn't always equal talent IMO


- Garnie

Forget Corsi.

I think Marner is better than Matthews...

Mitts Marner!!!

Forget Corsi.
- senstroll

Marincin has a 51% Corsi.


Junk stat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9AuZR5gLL0
- AdamFrench

Not watching. I reported it. When (MARNER!) Ek asks me why I reported I'm gonna say you insulted me.

Where the (frank) is the team D

Not watching. I reported it. When (MARNER!) Ek asks me why I reported I'm gonna say you insulted me.
- weirdoh

Fair enough.


I did burn your steam bun.

I was just leaning forward in my seat thinking Marner looks like he's gonna do something...he scores

I think Marner is better than Matthews...
- SofaKingBored

He's not, at least not as an all-round player.



But that's taking nothing away from him and he's still a (frank)ing beaut.

I think Marner is better than Matthews...
- SofaKingBored

Imagine they played for the same team...

Where the (frank) is the team D
- Garnie

In your mouth...?

Forget Corsi.
- senstroll

No it has use...but not as much as a lot of the new analytics guys think. IMO

Would some people not consider that heresy?
- hagar58

Remember when we didn't have all this complete bullpoop corsi poop going on. How did we ever know who was a good player?

I think Marner is better than Matthews...
- SofaKingBored

I'd still say Matthews (imo)

Imagine they played for the same team...
- BetterCallSaul

The Leafs would never be so lucky to have both if them...