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mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 11:55 AM ET
Three pucks or I walk...


Seriously tho...I don't get the rampant hate for those two...

Are they elite? No
Are they serviceable? Yes

- feetontheair22


Gorges is shot, you need a guy making $5.1 to be more than serviceable, Justin Falk in serviceable
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 11:56 AM ET
I know vegas doesn't want our junk but unless ive read this incorrectly (which is entirely possible) they have to meet the salary floor requirements by the end of the expansion draft.

They're not just going to pluck every teams young player and ahl guy, they'll take salary and nhl experience which is where you dangle ennis, bogo, gorges etc.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
I believe we have to protect Okposo (I would anyway, even if we didn't have to)

55
29
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90
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63

Trade larsson at the deadline to a team that's out of it.

They would have to choose from 26, 4 or 47

- jcragcrumple


Forgot 21 good call
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
Nobody will trade for an injured larsson so that might be tricky. And I would think based on what we've seen that if it comes down to it they'll protect carrier over ennis.
- Sabresfan-365


Probably right. I'm just trying to think of a scenario where we only expose dead weight. I wish the NHL was like MLB where you can trade cash. Moulson and $2 mil to some cash-strapped team.

I still think murray will do something creative to get out from under Moulson and to a lesser extent Bogo, though
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 11:59 AM ET
I know vegas doesn't want our junk but unless ive read this incorrectly (which is entirely possible) they have to meet the salary floor requirements by the end of the expansion draft.

They're not just going to pluck every teams young player and ahl guy, they'll take salary and nhl experience which is where you dangle ennis, bogo, gorges etc.

- Sabresfan-365


If they go 7-3-1 they could protect Falk and expose Bogosian and Gorges
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:02 PM ET
If they go 7-3-1 they could protect Falk and expose Bogosian and Gorges
- mattmoulson

That's what I was thinking. Plus expose 26. Force Vegas to take one.

They aren't taking one of our goalies.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
If they go 7-3-1 they could protect Falk and expose Bogosian and Gorges
- mattmoulson


Yeah there's two ways to read the Falk extension. Either Murray talked to George McPhee and Mcphee wants Falk (at a reasonable salary), so murray signed him to expose in exchange for an understanding that he'll be the player picked, or Murray signed him to fill the third D spot. Either way, it seems Murray is planning on 7-3-1 based on the Falk signing
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
If they go 7-3-1 they could protect Falk and expose Bogosian and Gorges
- mattmoulson



Thats what i was thinking before but this would leave fedun in no? because hes something like 18 games away from meeting the requirements?

someone on twitter explained the 8-1 benefit but ive lost the tweet.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:06 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Real_...status/828650393173385216

kill me
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 12:06 PM ET
Thats what i was thinking before but this would leave fedun in no? because hes something like 18 games away from meeting the requirements?

someone on twitter explained the 8-1 benefit but ive lost the tweet.

- Sabresfan-365


Fedun is a free agent at the end of the year, based on the extension I would guess they value Falk more
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/828650393173385216

kill me

- Sabresfan-365


If we were the only team to put in a claim he can go to Rochester
51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buttplug, NY
Joined: 08.15.2013

Feb 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/828650393173385216

kill me

- Sabresfan-365





Stay in Rochester now...
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/828650393173385216

kill me

- Sabresfan-365


Welcome Back! The new Matt Ellis will never die
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 6 @ 12:09 PM ET
Welcome Back! The new Matt Ellis will never die
- jcragcrumple


Like a cockroach
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 6 @ 12:09 PM ET
Fedun is a free agent at the end of the year, based on the extension I would guess they value Falk more
- mattmoulson


Falk is safe. Fedun is more fun to watch.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:09 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/828650393173385216

kill me

- Sabresfan-365

.....
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 6 @ 12:10 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/828650393173385216

kill me

- Sabresfan-365



My only hope here is that there is a way this signals that Murray is willing to acquire pieces he sent off earlier, and there is perhaps a way to re-snag Zadorov.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:10 PM ET
Fedun is a free agent at the end of the year, based on the extension I would guess they value Falk more
- mattmoulson


they being vegas? If its to meet some sort of exposure requirement where you wind up protecting the 4 d guys to force them to pick gorges/bogo i would have to think that they plan on shipping out guys like foligno/girgensons?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:12 PM ET
My only hope here is that there is a way this signals that Murray is willing to acquire pieces he sent off earlier, and there is perhaps a way to re-snag Zadorov.
- Der Kaiser


as pointed out if we're the only team that put a claim he can go to rochester. Thats my hope.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 6 @ 12:12 PM ET
I know vegas doesn't want our junk but unless ive read this incorrectly (which is entirely possible) they have to meet the salary floor requirements by the end of the expansion draft.

They're not just going to pluck every teams young player and ahl guy, they'll take salary and nhl experience which is where you dangle ennis, bogo, gorges etc.

- Sabresfan-365

i am not sure on that.. they could also sign Shat and Radulov to some ridiculous contract. maybe a 1 year 6 mil for vanek. they have options to hit the floor and not have slightly serviceable dmen. if you were their GM would you rather over pay for Shat or have gorges?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
as pointed out if we're the only team that put a claim he can go to rochester. Thats my hope.
- Sabresfan-365

oh boy.. if he is in buffalo playing along with DLo and moulson and bailey goes back to roch i am going to laugh
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
i am not sure on that.. they could also sign Shat and Radulov to some ridiculous contract. maybe a 1 year 6 mil for vanek. they have options to hit the floor and not have slightly serviceable dmen. if you were their GM would you rather over pay for Shat or have gorges?
- IndianaSabresFan



i dont think shat will choose to sign there as any of the east coast teams he wants to go to will gladly pay him top dollar.

I know they have some sort of window to negotiate with pending rfa's who are on the expansion list? I just thought i saw somewhere that they have to hit the floor by the end of the expansion draft.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
i dont think shat will choose to sign there as any of the east coast teams he wants to go to will gladly pay him top dollar.

I know they have some sort of window to negotiate with pending rfa's who are on the expansion list? I just thought i saw somewhere that they have to hit the floor by the end of the expansion draft.

- Sabresfan-365

probably.. maybe they can make a trade with Arizona to acquire datysuk or ponger
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
probably.. maybe they can make a trade with Arizona to acquire datysuk or ponger
- IndianaSabresFan



itd be interesting if thats allowed, or does it have to be active skaters?
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:21 PM ET
Being good, helps shut them up.

Not that I agree with Sully, ever, but best way to shut him up is to produce. He hated McCoy, now can't really write anything negative about him.....because he's good.

- sbroads24



That's the state of the Buffalo sports teams though, they've completely forgot winning is an option to improve relations with everyone involved.
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