Somewhat.

I've also been right about the Oilers, playing young players, the Leafs like ten times........I'm pretty astute, but I always go against the mainstream thinking on a topic and people get angry....but they forget later that I am always right.

Except all the times I'm wrong, which is also very many.

I guess you could say I'm just a regular person who is sometimes right and sometimes wrong, but just better looking than most.
- james_tanner1

In regards to the Leafs vs Coyotes it's valid to say but I do think you have to compare the players as well. I dont see the Yotes having a player like Matthews, and that's a big deal. It's the same assumption that got the Oilers into trouble, with tanking and expecting to turn out like the Penguins/Caps or something. Good talent is not elite talent and elite talent can take a team very far.

Always the worst kind of people who tell me I'm dumb - that is truly what's satisfying.
- james_tanner1

I said you said something stupid. I didn't say you were dumb.

You're clearly very intelligent overall, but smart people say stupid poop all of the time.

Not all rookies are created equal though


Marner and Matthews >>>>> strome and whoever

Rookie is a rookie dude. Don't go getting all technical like you actually have a point to make. The Leafs have 8-10 rookies in the lineup on any given night, and the Coytoes could do the same thing - though luckily they'll have staggared things a bit better than Toronto. They also won't have an Auston Matthews, so I'm not saying they'll have the same success.

I'm just saying that it may be that the NHL's obsession with age and experience is evolving a bit.
- james_tanner1

Delusional is delusional

In regards to the Leafs vs Coyotes it's valid to say but I do think you have to compare the players as well. I dont see the Yotes having a player like Matthews, and that's a big deal. It's the same assumption that got the Oilers into trouble, with tanking and expecting to turn out like the Penguins/Caps or something. Good talent is not elite talent and elite talent can take a team very far.
- 13sundin13

You also have surround everyone with quality vets and players of all ages. Its no secret that the Leafs rookies are succeeding because Komorov, Kadri, Gardiner, JVR and Bozak are all very good players who are in their primes.

The Coyotes can dress nine rookies/sophmores, but if they don't find some talent to go with OEL then they will have an Oilers problem.

I said you said something stupid. I didn't say you were dumb.

You're clearly very intelligent overall, but smart people say stupid poop all of the time.
- mochoson

Well fair enough. I haven't had a cigarette in three months, so if I'm occasionally an ass, that'd be why.

Rookie is a rookie dude.
- James Tanner

I don't agree with this. A rookie that has played all of his hockey thus far in U18 juniors is not the same as a rookie that has played in the NCAA, who is also not the same as a rookie who came from the AHL.

Players like Justin Schultz, Danny DeKeyzer, and Paul LaDue all came from leagues where they were playing against fully grown men rather than against 16-19 year olds. This gave them a level of readiness that freshly drafted players just don't have.

Talented players that are given a few years to develop in the minors are much more prepared in their NHL rookie seasons than players that come straight from juniors. Obviously there are a few talented kids per year that come out of the draft that are NHL ready, but for everyone else, a few years in a developmental league will make them that much better when they finally do crack an NHL roster.

In a smith trade going to Nashville, the coyotes would have to take renne back. Would you be ready for this?
- jt6766

Rinne has an NMC.

M.I.A's best work to date is Born Free. It was too honest for the powers that be.

Agree with whole list except Smith. Wouldn't you want a NHL goalie the next two to three years? There's no one in the pipeline who could replace him the coming 2/3 years. With Domingue as a back-up you look at least decent short term and you can see how the prospect goalies develop.

1) the coyotes arena is going to happen one way or the other. This is just posturing but there are multiple options. The ownership knows Glendale long term is a losing proposition no matter how good the team is.

2) you really have to stop comparing the coyotes and Toronto. The resource difference between the two organizations is night and day, Babcock is a difference maker, and Auston Mathews is a game changer. The leafs aren't good just because they "played their rookies"

3) a player missing from your list is OEL...he should be traded at the deadline for a massive haul, considering that his contract expires right when the team is supposed to start being competitive. He isn't a leader in the locker room, and his value will never be higher than it is right now. He is great, no doubt, but unlikely to be around when the coyotes are lifting cups. As the core package (+/- 1st rounders) Maybe Reinhart and ristolainen? Maybe landeskog and Barrie? Maybe Bennett and Hamilton? Nurse and nugent Hopkins? Trouba and ehlers? Tuch and Dumba?

Rookie is a rookie dude. Don't go getting all technical like you actually have a point to make. The Leafs have 8-10 rookies in the lineup on any given night, and the Coytoes could do the same thing - though luckily they'll have staggared things a bit better than Toronto. They also won't have an Auston Matthews, so I'm not saying they'll have the same success.

I'm just saying that it may be that the NHL's obsession with age and experience is evolving a bit.
- james_tanner1

You mean like Artemi panarin winning the rookie of the year?

Also the only way the Yotes get "real" return on their sell-off is if they are willing to take salary back, Or eat salary. If they do this they could end up with an excellent prospect or two.

1) the coyotes arena is going to happen one way or the other. This is just posturing but there are multiple options. The ownership knows Glendale long term is a losing proposition no matter how good the team is.

2) you really have to stop comparing the coyotes and Toronto. The resource difference between the two organizations is night and day, Babcock is a difference maker, and Auston Mathews is a game changer. The leafs aren't good just because they "played their rookies"

3) a player missing from your list is OEL...he should be traded at the deadline for a massive haul, considering that his contract expires right when the team is supposed to start being competitive. He isn't a leader in the locker room, and his value will never be higher than it is right now. He is great, no doubt, but unlikely to be around when the coyotes are lifting cups. As the core package (+/- 1st rounders) Maybe Reinhart and ristolainen? Maybe landeskog and Barrie? Maybe Bennett and Hamilton? Nurse and nugent Hopkins? Trouba and ehlers? Tuch and Dumba?
- Dahlmanyotes

The best package you mentioned is Trouba and Ehlers and I wouldn't even do that. You need players of all ages - especially a franchise D man. The Coyotes can be good way sooner than anyone thinks because of OEL.

I mean, Keith is ten years older and OEL is better than he's ever been, so they just have to re-sign him. If it's not possible, OK, then make a move. But why wouldn't he want to be on HIS team when they're actually good?

Keep in mind that most players who end up on the Coyotes considering the best place they've ever played.

Caps will take someone...

I'd prefer Hanzal over Doan.

Do the Yotes have a goalie waiting in the wing once Smith is done/retired/traded and they give the reigns to Domingue? Also, is he even ready to be a #1?