I could care less about analyzing 3 vs 3. Its just like a shootout to me.

I kind of like how Hak went to the 1-2-2. Its almost like a team benching. Kind of threw in the towel at least for awhile telling them if their not going to skate and make smart decision your going to be Lemaires Devils
- Just5

There is a big difference between a 1-2-2 forecheck and a 1-2-2 trap.

Phantoms got blown out. Left it was 7-1 got emergency work call so it could be worse.
No one looked good. Stolarz did not play well. Passing sucked, back checking sucked, very sloppy. Laughton is not an NHL player.

Morin uses his body well and can see him as an NHLer.

Sanheim didn't do much.

Haag wasn't really noticeable. He made a few on the tape passes out of the D zone.

The pens lost bad last night so the had some motivation to play hard.

ES don't count more and they're not any more important in a vacuum. The entire point is that a player who doesn't play on the top PP unit (and the PP2 for a long long time, well before Coots even, has sucked here, even adding Provorov and Konecny now. It's a problem from the top down) will never put up the points you expect. So it's just unfair to evaluate his raw point totals to guys with oodles of PP1 time.

The point is that Couturier is not scoring enough 5v5 either. Period. But he's still 5th among forwards somehow in scoring per game there. The continual need to poop on only him and ignore every single other person because they get the benefit of the PP1 is nonsensical. It's a team-wide problem, but he doesn't get to boost his stats with special teams like some. Put him on PP1 in front somewhere, and magically 10 points get added to his totals probably.
- Mononoke

I havent seen anyone dumping just on Coots..Your post is above is really well written and it all makes sense.I have said multiple times , I believe COots and Schenn are part of the solution so moving them, unless it benefits the team isnt something I would do.

We could paint pictures in whatever light we want to make a player look good..The facts are that the Flyers are not getting enough this season from G , Coots and to a lesser extent Schenn.

THere really is nothing like watching a veteran, mediocre team scratch its two most exciting players so they can play a conservative style and lose 1-0
- PhillySportsGuy

Well.....this is exactly what happened I cant argue with this. It was like watching paint dry. But at the end there was a chance the room might look good at least.

Wade Allison with a goal tonight

So apparently there are some ridiculously priced commercials on today that are featuring a football game and some butter faced blond chick is also gonna sing.

Meh, I'll be watching hockey

Matt Read is even and fighting the good fight!

Matt Read is even and fighting the good fight!
- Just5

Team MVP

According to Tim P., this is the way Hakstol wants the team to play for the rest of the season . If that's the case... I'm out. I don't want to watch this boring ass poop. I've been a never-miss-a-game fan for 20 years, but I just can't watch an untalented team playing boring hockey in the hopes that they can squeak into the playoffs. And now they're not even going to play the only interesting young guys they have? What's the point? I always hoped the flyers would build a better team from within rather than trying to buy one, but I don't really see that happening. We're tied into underperforming players for the foreseeable future and I don't see much of a chance of drafting a real difference maker if we're going to be a middle of the pack team.

Team MVP
- BiggE

Its actually amazing Read is even and Couturier is -2.

Especially in light of the "superstars" and where they are. And the overall goal differential for this team.

According to Tim P., this is the way Hakstol wants the team to play for the rest of the season . If that's the case... I'm out. I don't want to watch this boring ass poop. I've been a never-miss-a-game fan for 20 years, but I just can't watch an untalented team playing boring hockey in the hopes that they can squeak into the playoffs. And now they're not even going to play the only interesting young guys they have? What's the point? I always hoped the flyers would build a better team from within rather than trying to buy one, but I don't really see that happening. We're tied into underperforming players for the foreseeable future and I don't see much of a chance of drafting a real difference maker if we're going to be a middle of the pack team.
- Dkos

👀

Yup, still a mess in here.

According to Tim P., this is the way Hakstol wants the team to play for the rest of the season . If that's the case... I'm out. I don't want to watch this boring ass poop. I've been a never-miss-a-game fan for 20 years, but I just can't watch an untalented team playing boring hockey in the hopes that they can squeak into the playoffs. And now they're not even going to play the only interesting young guys they have? What's the point? I always hoped the flyers would build a better team from within rather than trying to buy one, but I don't really see that happening. We're tied into underperforming players for the foreseeable future and I don't see much of a chance of drafting a real difference maker if we're going to be a middle of the pack team.
- Dkos

What you see is what you get for the rest of the year, and yes it can be very boring.I am interested too see what Hextall can do in the off season. He failed last year (Weise/Gordon). A change is needed and we all know Homer would pull the trigger when change is needed .

I think G and Ghost deserve some cushion here. Both had hip and abdominal surgeries last spring. These aren't the most athletic guys to begin with I think it's possible they didn't have the type of training over the summer that they'd like. I hope both can make it through without further surgery/complication in hopes to get a full offseason regimen in

According to Tim P., this is the way Hakstol wants the team to play for the rest of the season . If that's the case... I'm out. I don't want to watch this boring ass poop. I've been a never-miss-a-game fan for 20 years, but I just can't watch an untalented team playing boring hockey in the hopes that they can squeak into the playoffs. And now they're not even going to play the only interesting young guys they have? What's the point? I always hoped the flyers would build a better team from within rather than trying to buy one, but I don't really see that happening. We're tied into underperforming players for the foreseeable future and I don't see much of a chance of drafting a real difference maker if we're going to be a middle of the pack team.
- Dkos

I think youre badly misreading the situation if you think they arent going to play Konecny and Gostisbehere moving forward.

I think youre badly misreading the situation if you think they arent going to play Konecny and Gostisbehere moving forward.
- MJL

Yeah, I'm pretty sure one or both will be in the next game. Manning has been horrible, gotta think MDZ (if healthy) or Ghost is replacing him next game and Schultz could also find himself back in the press box.

TK is a bit trickier if Hak is determined to play a sit back and take no chances kind of game. Maybe he takes Cousins spot with Coots and Read?

According to Tim P., this is the way Hakstol wants the team to play for the rest of the season . If that's the case... I'm out. I don't want to watch this boring ass poop. I've been a never-miss-a-game fan for 20 years, but I just can't watch an untalented team playing boring hockey in the hopes that they can squeak into the playoffs. And now they're not even going to play the only interesting young guys they have? What's the point? I always hoped the flyers would build a better team from within rather than trying to buy one, but I don't really see that happening. We're tied into underperforming players for the foreseeable future and I don't see much of a chance of drafting a real difference maker if we're going to be a middle of the pack team.
- Dkos

According to Tim P., this is the way Hakstol wants the team to play for the rest of the season . If that's the case... I'm out. I don't want to watch this boring ass poop. I've been a never-miss-a-game fan for 20 years, but I just can't watch an untalented team playing boring hockey in the hopes that they can squeak into the playoffs. And now they're not even going to play the only interesting young guys they have? What's the point? I always hoped the flyers would build a better team from within rather than trying to buy one, but I don't really see that happening. We're tied into underperforming players for the foreseeable future and I don't see much of a chance of drafting a real difference maker if we're going to be a middle of the pack team.
- Dkos

I get not being excited by the current style of play...but facts are they now have points in 5 out of 6 games.

You then say you dont see the Flyers building from within, that is just ridiculous..This list puts the FLyers prospect pool at 5th overall..

http://bleacherreport.com...every-teams-prospect-pool

"Summary

What's not to like? The Flyers didn't have a top pick at the draft but managed to restock their shallowest position and add a top goalie to a system already loaded to the gills with defencemen and puck-stoppers."

Again I get being frustrated with style and if you want to point out that G and Coots are not delivering , across all facets of the game the way they want then I agree but to say they arent building from within is ridiculous.

I get not being excited by the current style of play...but facts are they now have points in 5 out of 6 games.

You then say you dont see the Flyers building from within, that is just ridiculous..This list puts the FLyers prospect pool at 5th overall..

http://bleacherreport.com...every-teams-prospect-pool

"Summary

What's not to like? The Flyers didn't have a top pick at the draft but managed to restock their shallowest position and add a top goalie to a system already loaded to the gills with defencemen and puck-stoppers."

Again I get being frustrated with style and if you want to point out that G and Coots are not delivering , across all facets of the game the way they want then I agree but to say they arent building from within is ridiculous.
- opeth_pa

Hak's job is to win games, and sadly this D first, take no chances style is their best chance to do so. It's boring as sin and hopefully it changes when the team adds speed and talent, but it's the best bet for now.

My issues with the coach are much more about personnel use than style of play. With Provorov, Streit and AMac available yesterday, Manning should have never been on the ice in OT

Hak's job is to win games, and sadly this D first, take no chances style is their best chance to do so. It's boring as sin and hopefully it changes when the team adds speed and talent, but it's the best bet for now.

My issues with the coach are much more about personnel use than style of play. With Provorov, Streit and AMac available yesterday, Manning should have never been on the ice in OT
- BiggE

Agreed on both fronts.
I don't agree with everything Hak does..I hate the HAK robot style, I hate that the only player on the team that shows any anger when something happens is also one of our best forwards..I think Weiss is essentially useless, guess that is on Hexy..

I just don't get someone saying it doesn't look like the team is building from within when their besr dman is a draft pick , they have a 19 year old rookie who has been benched for 3 out of 50 some games and their best thing right now is their prospect pool..

Hak's job is to win games, and sadly this D first, take no chances style is their best chance to do so. It's boring as sin and hopefully it changes when the team adds speed and talent, but it's the best bet for now.

My issues with the coach are much more about personnel use than style of play. With Provorov, Streit and AMac available yesterday, Manning should have never been on the ice in OT
- BiggE

That's been an issue I had hoped would change under Hex.

Winning games at all cost. I figured with a young coach who was supposed to be strong at development that's what we wouldn't see.

Hell we may as well put Ghost on 4th line wing Sbisa style.

They can continue to play this way and watch the fans dwindle, this is trash Neanderthal hockey.

That's been an issue I had hoped would change under Hex.

Winning games at all cost. I figured with a young coach who was supposed to be strong at development that's what we wouldn't see.

Hell we may as well put Ghost on 4th like wing Sbisa style.

They can continue to play this way and watch the fans dwindle, this is trash Neanderthal hockey.
- flyer_nutter

It's a tough balancing act. Sure you want what's best for the kids, but if veteran players sense the coach isnt doing everything possible to win games, you'll lose the room.

Like I said, I'm ok with the style. I just want to see the kids in the lineup and a pending UFA or 2 dealt at the deadline

It's a tough balancing act. Sure you want what's best for the kids, but if veteran players sense the coach isnt doing everything possible to win games, you'll lose the room.

Like I said, I'm ok with the style. I just want to see the kids in the lineup and a pending UFA or 2 dealt at the deadline
- BiggE

I watch to be entertained. Hockey is a beautiful game when played the right way.

If this is the new approach count me out. They can win a cup playing the Devils style and having 10 people watch. Castrating the limited skill already on the team.

That's been an issue I had hoped would change under Hex.

Winning games at all cost. I figured with a young coach who was supposed to be strong at development that's what we wouldn't see.

Hell we may as well put Ghost on 4th line wing Sbisa style.

They can continue to play this way and watch the fans dwindle, this is trash Neanderthal hockey.
- flyer_nutter

Its a tough spot..
Basically what you are saying is you would rather the team loses as long as they play young kids vs winning the way they are..

That is a tough call for management to make.

It's a tough balancing act. Sure you want what's best for the kids, but if veteran players sense the coach isnt doing everything possible to win games, you'll lose the room.

Like I said, I'm ok with the style. I just want to see the kids in the lineup and a pending UFA or 2 dealt at the deadline
- BiggE

Maybe they should stop trying to balance it and just commit to building for the future