Joulevi Tanev
Sbisa Tryamkin
Brisebois Stecher

Would probably be my preferred future pairings.
Trading Edler, Guds, Hutton.

Side note.

“And the reality is Shattenkirk is viewed at best as a second-pairing defenseman,” said Dreger. “Some teams that I talk to have him as a No. 5 guy. He’s terrific on the power play.

“But that’s a decision as an organization you have to make. Do you want to pay a 4-5 guy $7 million or more on a long term. Probably not.”

Dreger was on WGR 550 saying that he’s viewed as a power-play specialist. He’s a second pairing defenseman, who struggles on 5-on-5 at times.

“If you’re paying $7 million per, you need to get Victor Hedman or Drew Doughty or Brent Burns. That’s the type of player that you’re looking at when you’re looking at $7 million-plus.”
- manvanfan

You saying we should pursue Shattenkirk?

Tryamkin would be 10 times better a defence man if he wasn't playing with a different person every week. He is probably our best right now.

Beiga and Larsen both suck. We are really starting to miss Hutton and Guts.

I think we need an overhaul. We need to be sellers.

I'm not saying we need to blow the whole team up but...we need to blow the whole team up.

Playoffs

You saying we should pursue Shattenkirk?
- Whiskey-Tango

Not in the least. Certainly could use a scoring D though. For 7 Million per season I would never ever.
A bit surprised that some hockey people see him as at best a 5 D. Same as when Patrick Roy said that Tyson Barrie was a 5 D at best.

Same type of player but with more upside. READ FFS.
- manvanfan

I read it , it would have to be a ton more upside not a little

Not in the least. Certainly could use a scoring D though. For 7 Million per season I would never ever.
A bit surprised that some hockey people see him as at best a 5 D. Same as when Patrick Roy said that Tyson Barrie was a 5 D at best.
- manvanfan

Cuz when it comes down to PO's D wins & scoring only aids winning.

"Timothy Liljegren: The Swede is the undisputed top defenceman in this draft and, at this point, it's not even close.

Scouts say his offensive game is far more developed than his defensive game. He is an elite skater, both in terms of speed and agility, and adept at running a power play. He is seen as both a puck mover and an offensive point producer. No one is suggesting he's the next Erik Karlsson, not by any means, but scouts say he has some of the same qualities and, therefore, has the potential to be projected as a possible top pairing defenceman in time."
- Whiskey-Tango

Karlsson is not Stecher . If he writes that he is like Karlsson I don't make a post, drafting for a Stecher type player is a whole lot different

Tryamkin would be 10 times better a defence man if he wasn't playing with a different person every week. He is probably our best right now.

Beiga and Larsen both suck. We are really starting to miss Hutton and Guts.

I think we need an overhaul. We need to be sellers.

I'm not saying we need to blow the whole team up but...we need to blow the whole team up.

Playoffs
- thundachunk

Tryamkin and Tanev would be best together

Ok i'll play along...
Who is EG moved for?
Same for Tanev & Edler & Tryamkin?
How r we getting another 1st this draft?
Will Subban discover defence?
- Nighthawk

I thought the same....no edler tanev, giants EG or tree but yet midget subban who cant play D.
Glad we dont have that as our reality.

Not in the least. Certainly could use a scoring D though. For 7 Million per season I would never ever.
A bit surprised that some hockey people see him as at best a 5 D. Same as when Patrick Roy said that Tyson Barrie was a 5 D at best.
- manvanfan

Shattenkirk had one above average season. After that he has been playing bogey. I would put him as a 4/5 defence man. Though he can handle top minutes. With that said he could be a top line guy. I feel he would compliment the right #1 defence man. He could be sombody's Chachi.

Tryamkin and Tanev would be best together
- VANTEL

I agree with you on this.

I thought the same....no edler tanev, giants EG or tree but yet midget subban who cant play D.
Glad we dont have that as our reality.
- SMBDragon

Subban would be better playing with Tryamikn than Biega or Larsen. Its hard to watch when they are on the ice. I will say that Biega and Larsen are still better than Weber.

Shattenkirk had one above average season. After that he has been playing bogey. I would put him as a 4/5 defence man. Though he can handle top minutes. With that said he could be a top line guy. I feel he would compliment the right #1 defence man. He could be sombody's Chachi.
- thundachunk

Highly overrated @7m/season 1 dimensional D.
Anyone else can have him at that price with no cups on his resume.

Shattenkirk had one above average season. After that he has been playing bogey. I would put him as a 4/5 defence man. Though he can handle top minutes. With that said he could be a top line guy. I feel he would compliment the right #1 defence man. He could be sombody's Chachi.
- thundachunk

I think it is crazy talk about trying to acquire Shattenkirk or any other Dman .

We have Juolevi and Briseboise in the system and a young good D core . They will grow . We are not winning anything so why sell the farm on a position we are not struggling at?

Aka spitballing with no purpose lol
- Nighthawk

There was a purpose. Throw poop out and see what stimulates decent hockey talk. Sometimes it works other times ...well sometimes people take things way too seriously.

Shattenkirk had one above average season. After that he has been playing bogey. I would put him as a 4/5 defence man. Though he can handle top minutes. With that said he could be a top line guy. I feel he would compliment the right #1 defence man. He could be sombody's Chachi.
- thundachunk

Only Karlsson Burns Letang and Subban have averaged more points per game then Shattenkirk the past 3 seasons. Hes really good, but going to be a huge price tag.

Shattenkirk had one above average season. After that he has been playing bogey. I would put him as a 4/5 defence man. Though he can handle top minutes. With that said he could be a top line guy. I feel he would compliment the right #1 defence man. He could be sombody's Chachi.
- thundachunk

Yeah seasons of 43, 43, 45, 44, 44, and 35 this season.

I would put him as a second pairing guy probably a 4.

Only Karlsson Burns Letang and Subban have averaged more points per game then Shattenkirk the past 3 seasons. Hes really good, but going to be a huge price tag.
- ClarksonDavid

Free agent class this year is a bit soft on high end talent that is not old.
7 million a season I can't see. If you could get him 5.5 for 5 years. Teams are getting better for not over paying.
Kris Russell wanted 5 million a season and took 3.1 for 1.

Tryamkin and Tanev would be best together
- VANTEL

they both would want to play R. They are both shut down D. You'd want to balance that across the D and have a shooting D with either of them. Unless tree discovers this side of himself more like he did at WJHC.

Tanev and tree combined would be a good shutdown pairing in playoffs for specific assignment. Regular basis no

Yeah seasons of 43, 43, 45, 44, 44, and 35 this season.

I would put him as a second pairing guy probably a 4.
- manvanfan

Bob McKenzie recently called him a #6 with similar comments to Dreger.

I think BOB knows hockey.

Subban would be better playing with Tryamikn than Biega or Larsen. Its hard to watch when they are on the ice. I will say that Biega and Larsen are still better than Weber.
- thundachunk

the only way subban is here is if he is playing with tree or tanev....unless you want to be scored on that is

they both would want to play R. They are both shut down D. You'd want to balance that across the D and have a shooting D with either of them. Unless tree discovers this side of himself more like he did at WJHC.

Tanev and tree combined would be a good shutdown pairing in playoffs for specific assignment. Regular basis no
- SMBDragon

Tryamkin is a left shot and can play both sides.

His game would be made simpler by not having to cover up his partners mistakes.

THey are both shut down but Tryamkin can bring the toughness to that pairing . Tryamkin is also learning that he can shoot and take chances.

Being mentored by Tanev would be much better than learning from Larssen or Sbisa

I think it is crazy talk about trying to acquire Shattenkirk or any other Dman .

We have Juolevi and Briseboise in the system and a young good D core . They will grow . We are not winning anything so why sell the farm on a position we are not struggling at?
- VANTEL

You guys misunderstand me. I dont want Shattenkirk.

Oh sh!t Beatle John is going to cream his green jeans , Frank Corrado on waivers

You guys misunderstand me. I dont want Shattenkirk.
- thundachunk

I know , I was continuing on with you adding fuel to the fire

Oh sh!t Beatle John is gooing to cream his green jeans , Frank Corrado on waivers
- VANTEL

Is he any good?