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MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 3 @ 5:35 PM ET
If you move Draisaitl to center I would assume he would become the second line center. This would move Nuge to third line center and making 6 mill/year would almost mean a ticket out of town would it not, if possible?
- Daceroni

Or you move Nuge to the RW to see if he can start producing more with the lessened responsibilities of a winger. I'd wager it'd afford you the chance to move Eberle for a more versatile forward. Sign a 3C and we'd see something like:

Maroon- McDavid- Versatile F
Slepyshev- Draisaitl- Nuge
Lucic- Veteran 3C- Puljujarvi
Khaira- Letestu- Kassian

This way, we wouldn't be leaving a big dent in our C depth, either. Unless you guys would be open to a Nuge for Couterier swap, that is
nanook82
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Feb 3 @ 5:36 PM ET
If you move Draisaitl to center I would assume he would become the second line center. This would move Nuge to third line center and making 6 mill/year would almost mean a ticket out of town would it not, if possible?
- Daceroni

Hopefully. Him and Ebs are too similar. If they're not scoring.... they bring nothing else to the table unfortunately.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 5:38 PM ET
Or you move Nuge to the RW to see if he can start producing more with the lessened responsibilities of a winger. I'd wager it'd afford you the chance to move Eberle for a more versatile forward. Sign a 3C and we'd see something like:

Maroon- McDavid- Versatile F
Slepyshev- Draisaitl- Nuge
Lucic- Veteran 3C- Puljujarvi
Khaira- Letestu- Kassian

This way, we wouldn't be leaving a big dent in our C depth, either. Unless you guys would be open to a Nuge for Couterier swap, that is

- MaximumBone


I'd love to see Nuge used a RW for a few games, especially if were paired with McDavid.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 3 @ 5:42 PM ET
you (frank)s gonna win tonight or what?

How's your structure?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 5:51 PM ET
you (frank)s gonna win tonight or what?

How's your structure?

- BINGO!


Yup.

Depends on the night.
oilpatch
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
We'd have to ask Bruin fans how Lucic was foot speed wise.

The Lucic then looked so damn good on the highlight reel is because its usually only 5 second clips. Now you watch him on TV or in the stands every game and you realize the dude is slow as poop and probably always was. Basically just a boat anchor.

- nanook82



Yeh, but he has a really mean looking face....
nanook82
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Feb 3 @ 6:06 PM ET
Yeh, but he has a really mean looking face....
- oilpatch

But can't scare opponents into mistakes. That's a lot of $ to just show up to the rink for 2.5 hours.

Playoffs you need an extra gear...... if we get there, lets hope he finds it
nanook82
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Feb 3 @ 6:11 PM ET
you (frank)s gonna win tonight or what?

How's your structure?

- BINGO!

D-Zone we're awful. Look for a lot of D-2-D passing, Forward group will all be in the neutral zone.... forcing the D to just slap the puck up or around the boards. Usually leads to a turnover and quality scoring chance against.

If that team shows up, should be an easy night for you guys.

If the team that played in Ana or SJ shows up..... look out
McSavioursPupil
Montreal Canadiens
Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF
Joined: 12.11.2015

Feb 3 @ 6:20 PM ET
Yeah i'd expect Draisaitl would be the 2C.

I think the team needs to move on from RNH. he's on pace for 40 points which is very low end 2nd line offense. He's in his 6th season and still can't take a faceoff.

- rathagor


40s for points is average 2nd line production.

60s is average 1st line production.

This was a stat I learned a few years ago, and scoring has not gone up over the years so I take them as still relevant.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 3 @ 6:23 PM ET
Or you move Nuge to the RW to see if he can start producing more with the lessened responsibilities of a winger. I'd wager it'd afford you the chance to move Eberle for a more versatile forward. Sign a 3C and we'd see something like:

Maroon- McDavid- Versatile F
Slepyshev- Draisaitl- Nuge
Lucic- Veteran 3C- Puljujarvi
Khaira- Letestu- Kassian

This way, we wouldn't be leaving a big dent in our C depth, either. Unless you guys would be open to a Nuge for Couterier swap, that is

- MaximumBone


Except we've also seen that Drai at Center has not worked either on other lines.

It's Todd that has mucked this up. Now he's going to have to pay Drai big time.
Why not keep Drai on RW with Nuge at C and let Drai take some faceoffs like he does now? Kind of like with Benn taking faceoffs instead of Seguin.

Maroon-McDavid-Ebs
Poo(or whomever)- Nuge-Drai

Might get more than one line that can score.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 3 @ 6:24 PM ET
40s for points is average 2nd line production.

60s is average 1st line production.

This was a stat I learned a few years ago, and scoring has not gone up over the years so I take them as still relevant.

- McSavioursPupil

Around there

http://www.habseyesonthep...e-nhl-production-analysis
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 3 @ 6:25 PM ET
Made the mistake of reading Willis' article about leaving Ebs exposed on ON.

Jesus some fans are dumb. The comments on there are just pathetic.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 6:29 PM ET
Made the mistake of reading Willis' article about leaving Ebs exposed on ON.

Jesus some fans are dumb. The comments on there are just pathetic.

- Iggysbff


Exposing Eberle? WTF?
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 3 @ 6:48 PM ET
Except we've also seen that Drai at Center has not worked either on other lines.

It's Todd that has mucked this up. Now he's going to have to pay Drai big time.
Why not keep Drai on RW with Nuge at C and let Drai take some faceoffs like he does now? Kind of like with Benn taking faceoffs instead of Seguin.

Maroon-McDavid-Ebs
Poo(or whomever)- Nuge-Drai

Might get more than one line that can score.

- Iggysbff

I'm not opposed to Draisaitl continue to play RW on a line with Nuge, but have we really confirmed that? He had a rough time with Lucic and Pitlick when they were a line, but he's also seen varying degrees of success with Maroon, Slepy, Kassian and Puljujarvi.

His time away from McDavid has largely been spent at C. In his 429:59 away from Connor, his line has produced at a rate of 2.37 GF/60 and allowed goals at a rate of 2.37 GA/60. That's an effective top-6 line. Is it ideal? No but considering the lack of consistent linemates during that time, I think it's fair to suggest that he can likely do better.

And I refuse to see Eberle with McDavid.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 7:01 PM ET
Made the mistake of reading Willis' article about leaving Ebs exposed on ON.

Jesus some fans are dumb. The comments on there are just pathetic.

- Iggysbff


You weren't kidding. Some real head scratching opinions.
rathagor
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.27.2006

Feb 3 @ 7:03 PM ET
40s for points is average 2nd line production.

60s is average 1st line production.

This was a stat I learned a few years ago, and scoring has not gone up over the years so I take them as still relevant.

- McSavioursPupil


He's not on pace for 40+ point he's on pace for all of 40. Which using the link MaximumBone provided puts him in the very low end of NHL 2Cs, like I said.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Feb 3 @ 7:03 PM ET
Probably a 1st and a higher end prospect. Too rich for me.
- Wildschwein

A first and Samuelson.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Feb 3 @ 7:06 PM ET
I'm just here for new Hallfan posts...any to read today?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 7:07 PM ET
A first and Samuelson.
- Isleshockeyman


I shall say... no.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 7:08 PM ET
I'm just here for new Hallfan posts...any to read today?
- Larsson_fan


Not since the last one.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 7:12 PM ET
A first and Samuelson.
- Isleshockeyman


Now Pouliot, Samuelson and a 3rd I'd do. Doubt they would though.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Feb 3 @ 7:16 PM ET
I shall say... no.
- Wildschwein

I think Sammy will do well for you guys. Especially paired with Pulji. Tucson doesn't have much talent. They've won a lot of games by out working their opponents. Craig Cunningham is still the 7th or 8th leading scorer and hadn't played since early November.
rathagor
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.27.2006

Feb 3 @ 7:16 PM ET
I'm not opposed to Draisaitl continue to play RW on a line with Nuge, but have we really confirmed that? He had a rough time with Lucic and Pitlick when they were a line, but he's also seen varying degrees of success with Maroon, Slepy, Kassian and Puljujarvi.

His time away from McDavid has largely been spent at C. In his 429:59 away from Connor, his line has produced at a rate of 2.37 GF/60 and allowed goals at a rate of 2.37 GA/60. That's an effective top-6 line. Is it ideal? No but considering the lack of consistent linemates during that time, I think it's fair to suggest that he can likely do better.

And I refuse to see Eberle with McDavid.

- MaximumBone


At the end of the day if we want more balanced scoring, Draisailt has to go to another line, as he is the only other player the Oilers have that can generate some offense.

I'm of the opinion the future of the team has McDavid as 1C and Draisailt at 2C, so why not have the lines that way.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 7:18 PM ET
I think Sammy will do well for you guys. Especially paired with Pulji. Tucson doesn't have much talent. They've won a lot of games by out working their opponents. Craig Cunningham is still the 7th or 8th leading scorer and hadn't played since early November.
- Isleshockeyman


Did you get to see much of Samuelsson? If so what are your impressions?

Totally slipped my mind that you are a big Road Runners fan.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Feb 3 @ 7:42 PM ET
I'm just here for new Hallfan posts...any to read today?
- Larsson_fan


That was me last thread... That Goldberg "derp' meme was just burning a hole in my pocket, and then pow!!! He arrives
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