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Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 3 @ 8:31 PM ET
I think people are forgetting that Duchene has the ability to play wing at a pinch. He's a natural centre for sure though. But i find the argument that this team needs a winger over a centre a little weak. The top teams in this league have great centres that make wingers look better. It's almost never the other way around with the exception of a few superstars.

To me, Duchene is the real deal and think he's been misused the last couple of seasons in Colorado. He has such a similar skating ability to Sidney Crosby. He can get to stop speed in a matter of a couple of strides. Giving him a true #1 role, he could put up legitimate numbers. It would be crazy to see what he could do with Hoffman or Stone.

Landescog is nice, but isn't the top line player he is alluded to be. He just does everything well, but not great. We have enough of those guys. Not worth giving up legitimate assets for.

To me, there's no question you go after Duchene. The question is the price. However, you are indeed going to have to give up a White, Chabot, or a Brown to get it done. Heck, even Landescog will probably net one of those prospects.

For any legitimate player, you are going to give up an asset. They Ryan, Lazar, and a pick deals aren't getting anything going. I know everyone here wants to get rid of Chabot as much as they want to get rid of a testicle, but lets not forget we had another top prospect d-man in David Runblad who we dealt much to the dismay of many posters, including yours truly. Trading is as much a gamble as it is looking good on paper.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Feb 3 @ 9:24 PM ET
I think people are forgetting that Duchene has the ability to play wing at a pinch. He's a natural centre for sure though. But i find the argument that this team needs a winger over a centre a little weak. The top teams in this league have great centres that make wingers look better. It's almost never the other way around with the exception of a few superstars.

To me, Duchene is the real deal and think he's been misused the last couple of seasons in Colorado. He has such a similar skating ability to Sidney Crosby. He can get to stop speed in a matter of a couple of strides. Giving him a true #1 role, he could put up legitimate numbers. It would be crazy to see what he could do with Hoffman or Stone.

Landescog is nice, but isn't the top line player he is alluded to be. He just does everything well, but not great. We have enough of those guys. Not worth giving up legitimate assets for.

To me, there's no question you go after Duchene. The question is the price. However, you are indeed going to have to give up a White, Chabot, or a Brown to get it done. Heck, even Landescog will probably net one of those prospects.

For any legitimate player, you are going to give up an asset. They Ryan, Lazar, and a pick deals aren't getting anything going. I know everyone here wants to get rid of Chabot as much as they want to get rid of a testicle, but lets not forget we had another top prospect d-man in David Runblad who we dealt much to the dismay of many posters, including yours truly. Trading is as much a gamble as it is looking good on paper.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


I 100% agree, Duchene is the #1C that we have needed since Spezza and even before then. Pairing him with Hoffman's speed and shot would be amazing. I think he could turn Hoffman into a 40+ goal scorer and get Ryan back up to 30+ a year. As well as take the pressure off Turris and get him back to the #2C position where he can really thrive.

I don't think trading Chabot or White would be a good call, however Brown is certainly an option. like I said before I think Ceci, Dzingle and a 1st at least gets the conversation started
PtotheY
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.20.2010

Feb 4 @ 12:47 AM ET
I'm pretty sure the Duchene ship has already sailed after the Zibanejad trade to the Rangers, but Landeskog actually strikes me as the player that would bring something different to the table. For me, the only untouchable prospect would be Chabot, and if Ceci is put into the deal I think they have to make sure include a player like Beauchemin in return to avoid the scenario of being caught without functional top-4 depth. That also would yield the secondary benefit of being able to protect Methot in the expansion draft.

To Ottawa: Landeskog, Beauchemin
To Colorado: Brown, Ceci, Lazar, 1st Round Pick

- khawk


I just don't see a trade with Colorado a good idea. The team lacked leadership and their top end talent was still not good enough for the team. Duchesne is very fast and has sick hands, but has a downfall to his game....he plays terrible defensively. He would not fit in well in Guy Boucher' system and would have issues with putting up points since he would have to focus on improving two way play. Landesgok is just an average player I think Chabot/White and Brown should all be no touch. We have young players already and lets keep them. Go get Vrbata.
PtotheY
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.20.2010

Feb 4 @ 12:59 AM ET
This...this is it. I've said that for the last 5 years. We are a middle of the pack team and every bad trade (Ryan, Bishop) kills us so bad because we never have a high pick. there's no Mc David, Crosby, Matthews, Laine in our team. We got lucky with Karlsson, Stone, Hoffman etc..WE need to step it up and obtain top notch players...lets pay...maybe Ryan will come back in the gym and starts producing, then we trade for nice return and keep it rollllllllling
- SENSpatriot


Middle of the pack is good for now we are just starting too see consistency in the team's play after the long rebuild. To become a high contender you need superstars but ottawa don't have the chips for them and what if we get a second bobby ryan and we trade away White and/or Chabot and/or Brown. I think we can afford a couple more years to see where the chips lay. The young players should develop into stars themselves and I think Chabot has potential to reach superstardom. He's insane good.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 4 @ 4:02 AM ET
Middle of the pack is good for now we are just starting too see consistency in the team's play after the long rebuild. To become a high contender you need superstars but ottawa don't have the chips for them and what if we get a second bobby ryan and we trade away White and/or Chabot and/or Brown. I think we can afford a couple more years to see where the chips lay. The young players should develop into stars themselves and I think Chabot has potential to reach superstardom. He's insane good.
- PtotheY


Very seldom a team has more than one superstar. There are exceptions (Pittsburgh, Chicago) but, not many. Montreal has one in Price. Rangers have none. Boston? Columbus? Certainly Ovechkin in Washington. Stamkos.

And poor Ottawa only has Eric Karlsson playing the best hockey of his career and if the Sens keep rolling he will be a nominee for the MVP this year. This team is built around Karlsson, it will succeed because of Karlsson. Turris, Stone and Hoffman are on pace for 30 goal seasons. So, for example, how do you think Turris is performing in comparison to Toews or Bergeron this year? Pageau has shut down some of the best players in the game and, I think, he can be a force in the playoffs playing head to head against the other team's top player.

I love Duchene, but the Sens don't need to do a lot. I would not gut the farm in order to make a Duchene deal happen.
Rafterman
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.18.2014

Feb 4 @ 8:14 AM ET
I'd prefer to go after the likes of Drouin, Palat or Johnson. I would also think you'd have a better chance of landing one of them from TB. They're also on the outside looking in and in need of a change up. As well, they have Stamkos coming off LTIR. I'm just not sure if the Sens have what they need.

Maybe a first pick, Brown, Ceci or Wideman and maybe Lazar for Drouin.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Feb 4 @ 9:57 AM ET
Very seldom a team has more than one superstar. There are exceptions (Pittsburgh, Chicago) but, not many. Montreal has one in Price. Rangers have none. Boston? Columbus? Certainly Ovechkin in Washington. Stamkos.

And poor Ottawa only has Eric Karlsson playing the best hockey of his career and if the Sens keep rolling he will be a nominee for the MVP this year. This team is built around Karlsson, it will succeed because of Karlsson. Turris, Stone and Hoffman are on pace for 30 goal seasons. So, for example, how do you think Turris is performing in comparison to Toews or Bergeron this year? Pageau has shut down some of the best players in the game and, I think, he can be a force in the playoffs playing head to head against the other team's top player.

I love Duchene, but the Sens don't need to do a lot. I would not gut the farm in order to make a Duchene deal happen.

- spatso


This was exactly my point. Karlsson, Stone, Hoffman, Turris are all either in their prime or heading into their prime, why not try to build on our core and go or a cup rather that waste their talent just trying to make the playoffs. I honestly think Duchene could get Hoffman to 40+ goals a year and Ryan back up to 30+ goals. I also think we haven't seen the best of Turris yet because he is acting as our #1C when he should be a #2C. Bringing in Duchene fixes that and rounds out our team to be able to compete with the likes of Washington, Pitts, Chicago, etc

I don't think trading Chabot or White is a good idea, but like I said we have to may players as is, I think Ceci, Dzingle and a first at least gets the conversation started.
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