PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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God was just testing his faith with a low sh% - Nucker101
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Feanor
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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I've always felt Read was as important to Couturier as Jake is to G. - SuperSchennBros
Couturier had his best ever scoring season last year, and Read had his worst, so I think it's the other way around. |
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arichardson22
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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According to Kevin Weekes or Mike Rupp (can't remember which one of them said it), Ghost's problem is Provorov. Can't take the heat of a younger/better guy stepping in. - Scoob
As ridiculous as that sounds, I won't lie I had a slight thought about this in the very beginning of the season. Provy has been hyped up as the Prodigal Son (rightfully so) and I wondered if that had an impact on Ghost possibly taking a back seat to the fan base with Provy's excitement. But I threw this thought aside after a couple of weeks bc I thought it was ridiculous in the end. |
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VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 01.13.2009
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Couturier's line of Read and Cousins or Weise is a real third line. They've actually been awesome! If Hakstol deserves any credit, it's been getting the most of what he can from Schenn playing center, so we're deeper at center.
I think we're finally living in our perfect world. Enough with the changing of the combinations. We have 30 games left. - SuperSchennBros
I always felt we got the best out of Schenn on the RW with Couts. But, I don't have the stats to back that up. |
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JFlyers00
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Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ Joined: 11.24.2011
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As ridiculous as that sounds, I won't lie I had a slight thought about this in the very beginning of the season. Provy has been hyped up as the Prodigal Son (rightfully so) and I wondered if that had an impact on Ghost possibly taking a back seat to the fan base with Provy's excitement. But I threw this thought aside after a couple of weeks bc I thought it was ridiculous in the end. - arichardson22
The Jersey sales kind of dispute this:
http://shop.nhl.com/pages/Top_Selling_Jerseys |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I blame management for that problem. Very often management overpays players. - Scoob
Well yeah, no player is going to say no, I'm not really that good, pay me less.
The problem often isn't the actual salary, but the length of the deal. AMac, even if the cap hit was 5.25 million, on a 4 year deal would have been much better than 6 years at 5 per. I also very much doubt anyone was giving Dale Weise more than 6 million over 3 years and, if they were, Hexy should have hung up the phone.
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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According to Kevin Weekes or Mike Rupp (can't remember which one of them said it), Ghost's problem is Provorov. Can't take the heat of a younger/better guy stepping in. - Scoob
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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As ridiculous as that sounds, I won't lie I had a slight thought about this in the very beginning of the season. - arichardson22
People are human. It's not really an outlandish possibility. |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Well yeah, no player is going to say no, I'm not really that good, pay me less.
The problem often isn't the actual salary, but the length of the deal. AMac, even if the cap hit was 5.25 million, on a 4 year deal would have been much better than 6 years at 5 per. I also very much doubt anyone was giving Dale Weise more than 6 million over 3 years and, if they were, Hexy should have hung up the phone. - BiggE
THIS. Term is paramount and a killer |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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People are human. It's not really an outlandish possibility. - Scoob
If its true then get him out of here he's a head case
I hate working with people that always need a pat on the back |
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VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 01.13.2009
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Honestly the flyers dont have a true third line...
In a perfect world you could have something like this...
Konecny-G-Simmer
Schenn-Couts-Jake
A-Real-3rdline
Weise-Belle/Read-Luby/Raffl - jak521
My hope is they can find a decent FA signing and Lindblom comes over next year and helps with balancing lines.
Start the year with:
12-28-93
11-10/14-17
96-10/14-FA/24/25
Then you can move Raffl to L3 if Lindblom is successful. |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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My hope is they can find a decent FA signing and Lindblom comes over next year and helps with balancing lines.
Start the year with:
12-28-93
11-10/14-17
96-10/14-FA/24/25
Then you can move Raffl to L3 if Lindblom is successful. - VladDrag
I hope Lindblom takes #96 |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Well yeah, no player is going to say no, I'm not really that good, pay me less.
The problem often isn't the actual salary, but the length of the deal. AMac, even if the cap hit was 5.25 million, on a 4 year deal would have been much better than 6 years at 5 per. I also very much doubt anyone was giving Dale Weise more than 6 million over 3 years and, if they were, Hexy should have hung up the phone. - BiggE
Again, management's fault. That's why I don't include contract value or cap hit when I'm evaluating a player. The guy is either doing his job well or he's not. "He sucks at $6M but he'd be good at $2M" is a dumb statement when evaluating a player. |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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I hope Lindblom takes #96 - Just5
Whichever number he takes, I'm sure you'll hate him and want him traded by year 2 |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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If its true then get him out of here he's a head case - Just5
I have no idea if it's true or not. I'm sure some of the GMs and coaches here will tell us, though. lol
I hate working with people that always need a pat on the back
This
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Whichever number he takes, I'm sure you'll hate him and want him traded by year 2 - PhillySportsGuy
Wow, that's an extreme amount of patience around these parts |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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Wow, that's an extreme amount of patience around these parts - Scoob
Year 1: Wow, look at this guy! He's going to be great
Year 2: He's not great yet. I would move him in the right deal (whatever the (frank) this means) |
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YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Again, management's fault. That's why I don't include contract value or cap hit when I'm evaluating a player. The guy is either doing his job well or he's not. "He sucks at $6M but he'd be good at $2M" is a dumb statement when evaluating a player. - Scoob
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Just5
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Whichever number he takes, I'm sure you'll hate him and want him traded by year 2 - PhillySportsGuy
probably |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Again, management's fault. That's why I don't include contract value or cap hit when I'm evaluating a player. The guy is either doing his job well or he's not. "He sucks at $6M but he'd be good at $2M" is a dumb statement when evaluating a player. - Scoob
There is something to it though. For example, Radko Gudas, at 3.35 million is a solid 2nd pair Dman. If he was being paid 7 million per, I don't think people would be nearly as happy with him. Prior to the cap, you are 100% correct, but now, the contracts really do matter.
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Year 1: Wow, look at this guy! He's going to be great
Year 2: He's not great yet. I would move him in the right deal (whatever the (frank) this means) - PhillySportsGuy
You forgot:
Year 3: See, I knew all along he was a great player.
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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You forgot:
Year 3: See, I knew all along he was a great player. - BiggE
are you calling us wafflers? |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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are you calling us wafflers? - dragonoffrost
At least I'm not calling you morons
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VladDrag
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 01.13.2009
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There is something to it though. For example, Radko Gudas, at 3.35 million is a solid 2nd pair Dman. If he was being paid 7 million per, I don't think people would be nearly as happy with him. Prior to the cap, you are 100% correct, but now, the contracts really do matter. - BiggE
I don't think so. Just because a GM overpaid in contract negotiations relative to similar players in the NHL, does not change said player's level of play. |
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