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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 3 @ 7:25 PM ET
To AZ: Giroux, 1st

To PHI: Clayton Keller, Connor Murphy


Murphy's contract kinda blows but we get Clayton franking Keller

- Mordecai


Only if they throw in Ryan White.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 3 @ 7:27 PM ET
According to earlier post practice reports, Ghost and Konecny will both be healthy scratches on Saturday
- BiggE


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 3 @ 7:29 PM ET
I'll just sum up both debates with this before I log off.

Konecny and Gostisbehere being scratched for a game isn't a real punishment. They're just gonna go back to the same roles and the same ice time saturday. A real punishment for Ghost for example is replacing him with Streit on the PP while he watches from the bench. You know who has been really been punished this season and rightfully so? Dale Weise. Expected periods of time as a healthy scratch, while Cousins plays (who isn't really that good of a player). Weise has had hos Power Play taken away for long stretches, again for Cousins at times. That's punishment.

As for White vs. Weise and Gordon, White produces on the fourth line of a bad team in less games than Weise and for cheaper. If you wanna defend your management/team to the death, god bless. The numbers are there.

White may suck but Weise and Gordon suck longer and harder.

- SuperSchennBros


I have the utmost respect for you as a poster, and I'm fond of you as one of the original posters. I just can't understand your logic sometimes.

Scratching a player for the entire game is not a punishment, but moving him off of the first PP unit is a punishment?

Dale Weise being scratched is a punishment, but Gostisbehere being scratched isn't?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 3 @ 8:25 PM ET
Future Raptor
- PhillySportsGuy

Ball movement will be great
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 8:38 PM ET
Rubstov out tonight
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM ET
Pssssstt....Hexy....now would be a good time to enter negotiations with ghost's agent. How bout 5 years 11.5 mil?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:16 PM ET
Watching some OSU vs Michigan....Cooper Marody 2 goals so far and Lyszinski with 1
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:22 PM ET
Its Friday night and Im ready to hockey where is everyone?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:31 PM ET
Cooper Marody with the Hatty 5-1 wolverines
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 3 @ 9:35 PM ET
Rubstov out tonight
- Just5



Would be nice if the prospects stop getting hurt.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 3 @ 9:41 PM ET
Ball movement will be great
- Nucker101


Mhhhmmm
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 3 @ 10:09 PM ET
Buckeyes roaring back their down now just 1 with 11 to go. What a game
Boyer83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ft Worth, TX
Joined: 12.16.2011

Feb 3 @ 10:26 PM ET
Billy, I think the penalties-taken you mentioned was a key indicator to success during the winning streak. I think they probably averaged 2 or less penalties per game. They're really a scrappy, grinding team when they stay out of the box.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 4 @ 12:30 AM ET
He just switched accounts, don't worry.
- Mononoke

Your obsession with me is flattering and puzzling rolled into one. Your knowledge of hockey is sad though, if I had to sum it up into one word. It's cute to see you try though.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 4 @ 12:35 AM ET
I have the utmost respect for you as a poster, and I'm fond of you as one of the original posters. I just can't understand your logic sometimes.

Scratching a player for the entire game is not a punishment, but moving him off of the first PP unit is a punishment?

Dale Weise being scratched is a punishment, but Gostisbehere being scratched isn't?

- MJL


Weise is scratched for numerous games in a row. Ghost isn't. Simple.

I'm sure Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn and Ghost have pride in being o the first unit. If anyone of them were permanently replaced as Jagr was before moving on as openly having issues with this, this would be a real issue. It's really simple.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 4 @ 1:28 AM ET
It's cute to see you try though.
- SuperSchennBros


Keep calling me cute and Nucker might get jealous
Skinner
Joined: 11.12.2015

Feb 4 @ 1:31 AM ET

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snipesmorris Dr Pepper
9 hours ago
Agreed. Ghost has been terrible offensively too. Of 481 NHL players who have played at least 400min at 5v5, he is ranked #450 in points per 60min at 5v5. The only Flyer who is worse is Weise (#463). Carrying the puck he has been really bad-- he has 48 giveaways and his -36 giveaway/takeaway ratio is 10th worst in the entire NHL (worst on the Flyers is Provorov at -40, 7th worst in the NHL). Love Ghost- even named my car after him- but I just close my eyes and pretend this season isn't happening.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Feb 4 @ 2:22 AM ET
Meat Read is a religious man, he said in his interview tonight. He knew the man upstairs would bless him eventually and reward his faith.

(He actually said this)

- Mononoke


This explains the teams problem. They figure god will do it for them
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 4 @ 6:20 AM ET
This explains the teams problem. They figure god will do it for them
- MikesPillBottle

Perhaps they should throw a shout out to Zeus, Odin and the dark Lord Cthulhu. May as well cover all bases.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 7:26 AM ET
Weise is scratched for numerous games in a row. Ghost isn't. Simple.

I'm sure Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn and Ghost have pride in being o the first unit. If anyone of them were permanently replaced as Jagr was before moving on as openly having issues with this, this would be a real issue. It's really simple.

- SuperSchennBros



Okay it's really simple. How many games constitutes numerous games? If Gostisbehere does not play today, does it become a punishment?
Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Feb 4 @ 7:40 AM ET
How does scratching Ghost and Konency make the team better over Cousins, Weiss, Shultz, Del Zorro, read, Roman Lyubimov,Nick Cousins,,Bellemare,Chris Vande Velde, MacDonald,Brandon Manning MAKE ANY FREAKING SENSE


hextall screwed this team during the off-season. He didn't bring in any offensive help or NHL capable players. Boyd Gordon and Dale Weiss.


3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 4 @ 8:21 AM ET
How does scratching Ghost and Konency make the team better over Cousins, Weiss, Shultz, Del Zorro, read, Roman Lyubimov,Nick Cousins,,Bellemare,Chris Vande Velde, MacDonald,Brandon Manning MAKE ANY FREAKING SENSE


hextall screwed this team during the off-season. He didn't bring in any offensive help or NHL capable players. Boyd Gordon and Dale Weiss.



- Flyers Time


Ghost and Konency should both be back in the lineup. Did the Flyers win because they were out..No. The Habs were terrible and came out flat just like the Flyers did against the Canes. Give the Flyers credit for getting the 2 points but I agree with you, the Flyers are a better team with those 2 in the lineup
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:22 AM ET
How does scratching Ghost and Konency make the team better over Cousins, Weiss, Shultz, Del Zorro, read, Roman Lyubimov,Nick Cousins,,Bellemare,Chris Vande Velde, MacDonald,Brandon Manning MAKE ANY FREAKING SENSE


hextall screwed this team during the off-season. He didn't bring in any offensive help or NHL capable players. Boyd Gordon and Dale Weiss.



- Flyers Time


Theoretically, it doesn't make them better right now, but that's not really the point of it.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:47 AM ET
kind of funny to see the pics of ghost getting the pswa award last night for top Philly athlete when he's not good enough to play on the flyers right now. Must have been awkward haha
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 4 @ 9:17 AM ET
Ghost and Konency should both be back in the lineup. Did the Flyers win because they were out..No. The Habs were terrible and came out flat just like the Flyers did against the Canes. Give the Flyers credit for getting the 2 points but I agree with you, the Flyers are a better team with those 2 in the lineup
- 3flyerkids


I have a bad feeling that unless Neuvy really stands on his head, they get steamrolled by a hot LA team today.

Oh well, at least that will get the kids back in the lineup for the next game.
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