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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 3 @ 4:45 PM ET
for the culture
- Nucker101


Giroux would look beautiful with perpetually sun kissed skin and rattlesnake boots.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 3 @ 4:45 PM ET
I'm a little upset I wasn't included.

I would rather the Flyers pay Ryan White 1 million dollars to play in Arizona than they pay Ryan White 1 million dollars to play for the Flyers

- YuenglingJagr


Did you mean you would rather pay Dale Weise 2.35 million to not play for us, which is what is happening and the more clever response.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 3 @ 4:46 PM ET
Giroux would look beautiful with perpetually sun kissed skin and rattlesnake boots.
- Mononoke

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 3 @ 4:48 PM ET
Did you mean you would rather pay Dale Weise 2.35 million to not play for us, which is what is happening and the more clever response.
- SuperSchennBros


Yeah, I still don't understand letting go of White, then overpaying for Weise. Not gonna make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things but it annoys the hell outta me.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 3 @ 4:51 PM ET
Never forget that Jonathan Marchessault is paid 25% less than Ryan White and has 32 points in 44 games.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 3 @ 4:53 PM ET
Never forget that Jonathan Marchessault is paid 25% less than Ryan White and has 32 points in 44 games.
- Mononoke

Points/60 and corsi aside, his name alone makes him worth more than White
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 3 @ 4:54 PM ET
I'll just sum up both debates with this before I log off.

Konecny and Gostisbehere being scratched for a game isn't a real punishment. They're just gonna go back to the same roles and the same ice time saturday. A real punishment for Ghost for example is replacing him with Streit on the PP while he watches from the bench. You know who has been really been punished this season and rightfully so? Dale Weise. Expected periods of time as a healthy scratch, while Cousins plays (who isn't really that good of a player). Weise has had hos Power Play taken away for long stretches, again for Cousins at times. That's punishment.

As for White vs. Weise and Gordon, White produces on the fourth line of a bad team in less games than Weise and for cheaper. If you wanna defend your management/team to the death, god bless. The numbers are there.

White may suck but Weise and Gordon suck longer and harder.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 3 @ 4:55 PM ET
White may suck but Weise and Gordon suck longer and harder
- SuperSchennBros


You know, in some professions that does actually cost more
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 3 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'll just sum up both debates with this before I log off.

Konecny and Gostisbehere being scratched for a game isn't a real punishment. They're just gonna go back to the same roles and the same ice time saturday. A real punishment for Ghost for example is replacing him with Streit on the PP while he watches from the bench. You know who has been really been punished this season and rightfully so? Dale Weise. Expected periods of time as a healthy scratch, while Cousins plays (who isn't really that good of a player). Weise has had hos Power Play taken away for long stretches, again for Cousins at times. That's punishment.

As for White vs. Weise and Gordon, White produces on the fourth line of a bad team in less games than Weise and for cheaper. If you wanna defend your management/team to the death, god bless. The numbers are there.

White may suck but Weise and Gordon suck longer and harder.

- SuperSchennBros


YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 3 @ 4:57 PM ET
Did you mean you would rather pay Dale Weise 2.35 million to not play for us, which is what is happening and the more clever response.
- SuperSchennBros

Chris Vandevelde is better than Ryan White

edit: aaahhhhh poop I think he logged off
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Feb 3 @ 4:58 PM ET
Dumb penalties. Scratches. Benches. Waived. Vacations without pay. Gambling addiction. Late to show up to games until the middle of the second. What's your point? He's still more productive on a worse team who is not going to make the playoffs.

You didn't even consider injury but either way, Ryan White on one skate would probably do better than the Gordon and Weise.

- SuperSchennBros


So you're calling out Hextall for 2 bad signings so far...fair. What does Ryan White have to do with that? Would his 50+ more PIMs, extra goal and assist be making a big difference to the Flyer's season at this point?

Whether you're ignoring or just not seeing improved play from Weise I don't know but he's been contributing plenty that hasn't shown up on the score sheet lately. Gordon looks like a failed experiment but Hextall's intentions to pursue that experiment were valid. Ryan White wasn't going to give him what he signed Boyd Gordon or Dale Weise for. He's boarder line NHL player on the worst team in hockey. Time to move on.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 3 @ 4:59 PM ET
You know, in some professions that does actually cost more
- Mononoke

List them please
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 3 @ 4:59 PM ET
List them please
- YuenglingJagr


1) Prostitution
2) Being a CBS sitcom star
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 3 @ 5:02 PM ET
Chris Vandevelde is better than Ryan White

edit: aaahhhhh poop I think he logged off

- YuenglingJagr


He just switched accounts, don't worry.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 5:32 PM ET
I'll just sum up both debates with this before I log off.

Konecny and Gostisbehere being scratched for a game isn't a real punishment. They're just gonna go back to the same roles and the same ice time saturday. A real punishment for Ghost for example is replacing him with Streit on the PP while he watches from the bench. You know who has been really been punished this season and rightfully so? Dale Weise. Expected periods of time as a healthy scratch, while Cousins plays (who isn't really that good of a player). Weise has had hos Power Play taken away for long stretches, again for Cousins at times. That's punishment.

As for White vs. Weise and Gordon, White produces on the fourth line of a bad team in less games than Weise and for cheaper. If you wanna defend your management/team to the death, god bless. The numbers are there.

White may suck but Weise and Gordon suck longer and harder.

- SuperSchennBros

According to earlier post practice reports, Ghost and Konecny will both be healthy scratches on Saturday
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Feb 3 @ 5:44 PM ET
According to earlier post practice reports, Ghost and Konecny will both be healthy scratches on Saturday
- BiggE

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 3 @ 5:57 PM ET
According to earlier post practice reports, Ghost and Konecny will both be healthy scratches on Saturday
- BiggE


ish gettin' real
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
ish gettin' real
- Scoob



Really
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 3 @ 6:52 PM ET

- Mordecai

nice
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 3 @ 7:15 PM ET
Why would Arizona do this?
- PhillySportsGuy



why would G waive his NMC to go to Arizona?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 3 @ 7:17 PM ET
We've finally found out AMac's strength! He can skate without falling frequently!
- jmatchett383


He falls rather frequently!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 3 @ 7:17 PM ET
Yeah, I still don't understand letting go of White, then overpaying for Weise. Not gonna make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things but it annoys the hell outta me.
- Nucker101



the story goes the Flyers wanted White back but white was playing hardball. not sure in terms of salary or years or both. The Flyers grew weary and decided to move on. white had no other offers except for Arizona for less than what he wanted from the Flyers. He priced himself of of an offer here and into Arizona
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 3 @ 7:18 PM ET
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Just like how they determined that Weise and Gordon are substantially better than what we had and can definitely help us. This is not something a fan should partake in.

- Just5


Were you under the impression that NHL execs and GM's are infallible? In making that statement, you didn't get the point.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 3 @ 7:21 PM ET
Dale Weise has sucked in the o-zone, but at least he's been good in the other 2 zones to make him at least partially useful. And it's not like he's not a guy with a 30 point track record. That he rebounds isn't outlandish. I wasn't thrilled with the signing on July 1st even though.

But Ryan White just is not good. Plain and simple, he's just barely an NHL player and there's no upside. His PKing was horrendous too fwiw. And I have it on good authority that he smelled.

- Mononoke



Finally we can use the term "he stinks" literally!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 3 @ 7:23 PM ET

- Nucker101


Future Raptor
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