If Chicago offered Toews for Coots, would you do it? Serious question
- YuenglingJagr

Nahhh

You did not answer my question. You stated that Hakstol has not done one thing which is taking away ice time from Gostisbhere. How is scratching him not taking away his icetime. Once we resolve that, then I'll be happy to address your other points.
- MJL

Scratching a player and actually taking a player's ice time are two different things. If Hakstol scratches Giroux during the last game of the season because we're as good as in the playoffs, is this a punishment? Is he taking G's ice time away?

If Chicago offered Toews for Coots, would you do it? Serious question
- YuenglingJagr

No I'm not going into cap hell with that contract.

Marchenko and Ribeiro on waivers
- YuenglingJagr

This is the one thing I wish the Flyers did a little of. SOme of these teams do a little tinkering with waiver pick ups that are low risk but could be a good depth guy to get in and then see how he performs.

I mean would it be all that bad to bring in Marchenko and move Manning to a 7th guy and waive Schultz?

Scratching a player and actually taking a player's ice time are two different things.
- SuperSchennBros

Scratching a player is taking away all their ice time for that game. Which I see as more of a punishment. The option you are suggesting could be considered like a $1k fine for most players.

If Chicago offered Toews for Coots, would you do it? Serious question
- YuenglingJagr

Not a chance. That 10.5 mil a year is an anchor and in just a couple of years it will drown the team that has him on it.

If contracts were taken out of the conversation, i would still say no. Coots is younger and will still be an effective player when the young D-men, that are coming, will be playing a big role in the Flyers line-up.

So he's better than a glorified tweener in Manning?
- dragonoffrost

He may be better, but he also costs a lot more.

Scratching a player is taking away all their ice time for that game. Which I see as more of a punishment. The option you are suggesting could be considered like a $1k fine for most players.
- dragonoffrost

If Hakstol scratches Giroux during the last game of the season because we're as good as in the playoffs, is this a punishment? Is he taking G's ice time away?

surely someone has to want that

I think you could get them to take on extra salary and whatever, but yeah....no chance I do it

If Hakstol scratches Giroux during the last game of the season because we're as good as in the playoffs, is this a punishment? Is he taking G's ice time away?
- SuperSchennBros

Not a chance. That 10.5 mil a year is an anchor and in just a couple of years it will drown the team that has him on it.

If contracts were taken out of the conversation, i would still say no. Coots is younger and will still be an effective player when the young D-men, that are coming, will be playing a big role in the Flyers line-up.
- ggunky

Imagine the cap hell they would be in if they had to resgin Keith? they were lucky to get him to that long term deal before the contract limitations came into effect.

If Chicago offered Toews for Coots, would you do it? Serious question
- YuenglingJagr

From a contract perspective no way. Anyone that says the would take the Toews contract over Coots is a liar.

From who is a better player perspective it is not even close. Anyone that says that would take Coots over Toews is a liar.

This is the one thing I wish the Flyers did a little of. SOme of these teams do a little tinkering with waiver pick ups that are low risk but could be a good depth guy to get in and then see how he performs.

I mean would it be all that bad to bring in Marchenko and move Manning to a 7th guy and waive Schultz?
- J35Bacher

The flyers have no room for someone on waivers...and anyway he would just be scratched as well. I don't really see Marchenko being of any help to them

Scoring doesnt shut up the haters. Getting more than 50 points will shut up the haters. If you are the 2nd line Center 50-60 points is expected. This guys highest is 39.....
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Since you apparently had a stroke, I'll finish the rest of your sentence: 39 points in 63 games, a 51 point pace.

Imagine the cap hell they would be in if they had to resgin Keith? they were lucky to get him to that long term deal before the contract limitations came into effect.
- J35Bacher

and Hossa

- Mordecai

and Hossa
- YuenglingJagr

Cap recapture penalties are going to destroy CHI's cap once Hossa retires though. Keith as well iirc.

From a contract perspective no way. Anyone that says the would take the Toews contract over Coots is a liar.

From who is a better player perspective it is not even close. Anyone that says that would take Coots over Toews is a liar.
- opeth_pa

Toews has been a better player in the past five years. In the next five years, when Toews will be 29-34 and Couturier will be 25-30 I think it will be much closer.

If Hakstol scratches Giroux during the last game of the season because we're as good as in the playoffs, is this a punishment? Is he taking G's ice time away?
- SuperSchennBros

Different scenario.

The discussion was about ice time as a punishment. Taking away PP time compared to scratching.

The flyers have no room for someone on waivers...and anyway he would just be scratched as well. I don't really see Marchenko being of any help to them
- YuenglingJagr

How don't they have room? Thye only have 46 contracts. Can make space waving someone like Schultz.

I wouldn't mind taking a chance on a 6'3'' right handed shot.

Honestly...no.
- jmatchett383

but the LEADERSHIPPPPPPPP

and Hossa
- YuenglingJagr

That one too.

but the LEADERSHIPPPPPPPP
- stayinthefnnet

Toews > Malkin, NHL says so.

Toews > Malkin, NHL says so.
- Feanor

Toews > Malkin, NHL says so.
- Feanor

haha i know. what an absolute joke.