New rule:

No talking about playoffs unless the Leafs are in a playoff position.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Any other rules?
Are we banning people from coming into the blogs too?

Who plans on a long rebuild though? It's just the nature of rebuilding through the draft.
Fans from the bigger markets aren't going to take waiting 6 years before being contenders, then a 3-4 year window, and start all over again very well.

Tanking blows. The league is going to have to come up with a solution.
- hunglikeapuck

Everyone wins?

Artyom Blazhiyevsky and Vasili Demchenko
- AdamFrench

A d and a goalie.....interesting. These guys I should pick up in my sim league?

Who plans on a long rebuild though? It's just the nature of rebuilding through the draft.
Fans from the bigger markets aren't going to take waiting 6 years before being contenders, then a 3-4 year window, and start all over again very well.

Tanking blows. The league is going to have to come up with a solution.
- hunglikeapuck

Give a new team a cup every year. Heck, give three teams a cup every year! Everyone will be happy.

Give a new team a cup every year. Heck, give three teams a cup every year! Everyone will be happy.
- daeth

(frank)ing Millennial NHL Teams!

Who plans on a long rebuild though? It's just the nature of rebuilding through the draft.
Fans from the bigger markets aren't going to take waiting 6 years before being contenders, then a 3-4 year window, and start all over again very well.

Tanking blows. The league is going to have to come up with a solution.
- hunglikeapuck

If you do it right, you don't have to start all over again in 3-4 years. Example: Trading Nylander is not doing it right.

Example of a team that didn't do it right: Colorado.
Gone: Ryan O'Reilly, Paul Stastny, Kevin Shattenkirk

All for a chance at Erik Johnson, and Freakorenko and Zadorov.

(frank)ing Millennial NHL Teams!
- markmark

If you do it right, you don't have to start all over again in 3-4 years. Example: Trading Nylander is not doing it right.

Example of a team that didn't do it right: Colorado.
Gone: Ryan O'Reilly, Paul Stastny, Kevin Shattenkirk

All for a chance at Erik Johnson, and Freakorenko and Zadorov.
- mykokes

Meh.
Not a good example....they simply couldn't afford to keep them.
The return is where they didn't get it right.....coaching as well.
Good teams have yearly turnover.

If you do it right, you don't have to start all over again in 3-4 years. Example: Trading Nylander is not doing it right.

Example of a team that didn't do it right: Colorado.
Gone: Ryan O'Reilly, Paul Stastny, Kevin Shattenkirk

All for a chance at Erik Johnson, and Freakorenko and Zadorov and Iginla.
- mykokes

fixed

no surprise they fell apart.

A d and a goalie.....interesting. These guys I should pick up in my sim league?
- mykokes

Your KHL sim league? Yes.

Your KHL sim league? Yes.
- AdamFrench

Is that where Nesterov is heading?

Meh.
Not a good example....they simply couldn't afford to keep them.
The return is where they didn't get it right.....coaching as well.
Good teams have yearly turnover.
- Fakepartofme

True, but I'm also of the belief good teams don't trade their core players before they even exit out of their entry level deals.

True, but I'm also of the belief good teams don't trade their core players before they even exit out of their entry level deals.
- mykokes

Oui oui. True.
Unless you are getting the same in return.

Meh.
Not a good example....they simply couldn't afford to keep them.
The return is where they didn't get it right.....coaching as well.
Good teams have yearly turnover.
- Fakepartofme

Stastny probably not......O'Reilly is at 6.2M

Iginla is making 5.5M
Soderberg 4.75M

and the team has 13m in cap space.

Is that where Nesterov is heading?
- mykokes

In 2019 probably.

Meh.
Not a good example....they simply couldn't afford to keep them.
The return is where they didn't get it right.....coaching as well.
Good teams have yearly turnover.
- Fakepartofme

av's are poorly run. they're a hot mess.

Oui oui. True.
Unless you are getting the same in return.
- Fakepartofme

Who are your ideas of similar return Fake? Do you have any deals you would like to see made?

av's are poorly run. they're a hot mess.
- Tumbleweed

I think they're a team that thought they could afford to move their centers and forwards in general because they had so many, kind of like Leaf fans who think trading Nylander or JVR is a good idea, because of all the forwards we supposedly have coming. So they tried trading for a younger centre and a young emerging d in one of those deals, giving up a sure thing centre (of course they also got (frank)ed by Calgary with the offer sheet sort of),. They also felt Shattenkirk wasn't a #1 dman so they traded for what they thought was a top d-man in Erik Johnson.

There are a lot of lessons from Colorado to be learned.

Chicago has managed to keep together Kane, Toews, Hossa, Keith and Seabrook for years. I can't see why Toronto can't keep Nylander, Matthews, Marner and Rielly together for years too.

Who are your ideas of similar return Fake? Do you have any deals you would like to see made?
- Kinger34

I'm not promoting trading nylander or any young core player.
Just simply agreeing with kokes and saying unless you are bringing back a young player under similar control.

ok wannabe GMs, you're all fired

ok wannabe GMs, you're all fired
- twiztedmike

I'm not promoting trading nylander or any young core player.
Just simply agreeing with kokes and saying unless you are bringing back a young player under similar control.
- Fakepartofme

I know exactly what you've been saying, I know sometimes i come across like I'm disagreeing with you (even when we're in agreement). You're only open to a deal if its a great deal for the Leafs and I'm with you on that. And right now, I don't know what a great deal is.

Everyone wins?
- Fakepartofme

Everybody ices the best team possible and let the cards fall where they may. Tanking goes against the spirit of sports. If you play pick up with some friends do you say to yourselves " hey let's loose this game on purpose"?

As they say, get yourself the playoffs and anything can happen. 3 of the last 5 cup winners finished 3rd in their division.

It's great when you're drafting lottery picks but eventually you get better and may get stuck in the bubble position, drafting 3rd and 4th liners year after year.

I'm not promoting trading nylander or any young core player.
Just simply agreeing with kokes and saying unless you are bringing back a young player under similar control.
- Fakepartofme

And with similar upside.

ok wannabe GMs, you're all fired
- twiztedmike

calm down twiztedtrump