You can only retain money on two salaries. Since they already retained some of McLeod, they'll have to choose between Beauchemin and Iginla if they trade those guys for anything.
- banno47

no you can retain up to 3 salaries

no you can retain up to 3 salaries
- DDM-Coga

Even better.

Gostisbehere + Schultz + Read for Landishog and Douchene

Duchene Stays.. as he should.

We have half of an AHL Team as our bottom 6 and D... why not try fixing that first eh?

Team is still rebuilding, it sucks but I've been through it during the Nordiques years. Sakic has a direction now, which I think lacked when Roy was here. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...
- Brzlnut

The Nordiques only took 4 years to rebuild...The Avs are rebuilding since 2005 and they still stink!

First.....Suck it all you Duchene haters
- DDM-Coga

Hott Take!!!!

I think if curtis lazar can be had for as cheap as everyone is saying the Avs should be all over that.

You can only retain money on two salaries. Since they already retained some of McLeod, they'll have to choose between Beauchemin and Iginla if they trade those guys for anything.
- banno47

Ah I see. Thx for clearing that up. My guess is Sakic does Iggy a favour and trades him to a contender.

The Nordiques only took 4 years to rebuild...The Avs are rebuilding since 2005 and they still stink!


- OnTheFly

They got lucky with the Lindros deal. They were horrid for more than 4 years. Avs haven't been rebuilding since 05 lol. You don't keep adding veterans and making deadline trades if you're rebuilding. Losing that Kyle Wood kid for Bordkker is gonna hurt. So I think reality sunk in for Sakic. Rebuild started last summer.

no you can retain up to 3 salaries
- DDM-Coga

Convert that to pepperoni hot pockets?

To LA:
Landeskog
Duchene ($2M retained)
Iginla ($2.66M retained) - rental
Tyutin - rental

To Colorado:
Muzzin
Pearson
Dowd
King - rental
McNabb
Kempe
2017 1st round pick
2018 2nd round pick

Haydn Fleury is calling your name. You want him.
- BINGO!

Maybe for Soderberg haha

To LA:
Landeskog
Duchene ($2M retained)
Iginla ($2.66M retained) - rental
Tyutin - rental

To Colorado:
Muzzin
Pearson
Dowd
King - rental
McNabb
Kempe
2017 1st round pick
2018 2nd round pick
- tkecanuck341

Wow look at all those depth guys and players who are too old for what the Avs want to do that they could get for just giving away 2 elite young players and all they have to do is retain a metric crap ton of salary.

Would you like Sakic to fellate every King fan as well?

I think if curtis lazar can be had for as cheap as everyone is saying the Avs should be all over that.
- agreig

I mean the Avs do like taking total busts for no reason. The guy is worse than Mitchell which is hard to do.

To put it in perspective there are currently 18 NHL goaltenders with as many or more points this year than Lazar.

The opportunity cost of a roster spot wouldn't be worth it even if he could be had for free.

The Nordiques only took 4 years to rebuild...The Avs are rebuilding since 2005 and they still stink!


- OnTheFly

Different league in the cap era. All that matters right now is Drafting & Development and not screwing yourself over Cap wise. As long as you do that and have enough good Dmen then you're set.

UFA is useless and no one is trading so it takes much longer to build a good team now than it used to and thats provided you get a little lucky.

Gostisbehere + Schultz + Read for Landishog and Douchene
- Streit2ThePoint

Comeau, Bigras and Beacuh for Simmonds and Provorov

Alex Edler and his 10 giveaways a game are available? Maybe him and our first rounder for Landeskog?
- Itsjustarash

Way too old. Avs are looking for 24 and under Dmen +. I think you know who fits that criteria.

You can only retain money on two salaries. Since they already retained some of McLeod, they'll have to choose between Beauchemin and Iginla if they trade those guys for anything.
- banno47

You can retain up to 3, however you can't retain more than 50%.

Its almost guaranteed they will retain on Iggy so that he can go to a contender. We'll see what they do with the rest.

Wow look at all those depth guys and players who are too old for what the Avs want to do that they could get for just giving away 2 elite young players and all they have to do is retain a metric crap ton of salary.

Would you like Sakic to fellate every King fan as well?
- Meeqsb

Muzzin is a legit top paring defenseman on perhaps the best defensive team in the league. McNabb is a solid, young top-4 guy. Add those two in with Erik Johnson and Tyson Barrie, and you have one of the best top-four defensive corps in the league. They are 27 and 26 years old, respectively.

The Kings are a notoriously low-scoring team, and Pearson has more goals than both Duchene and Landeskog this season. He's exceptional on the PK and throws his body around. Oh, and he's only 24.

Kempe is the top prospect in the Kings system. He had an exceptional training camp and will be a mainstay in the Kings top-six in a few years. Oh and he's only 20 years old.

Dowd has surprised everyone this year and has turned into an exceptional 3rd line center. Jim Fox can't shut up about his playmaking ability and how he's second on the Kings in that area to only Anze Kopitar. He also plays a solid two-way game and throws his weight around.

King is only in there to clear up a roster spot and to send some salary back the other way to make the cap numbers work. His contract is over on July 1, so he would finish out the season then become a UFA.

Finally, there's a 1st AND a 2nd round pick in there.

All of the players in this trade are no older than 27, and all but two of the players included in this deal are 24 and under. I'm not sure how you can say they're too old, unless you also think that Johnson and Barrie don't belong on the team either.

Muzzin is a legit top paring defenseman on perhaps the best defensive team in the league. McNabb is a solid, young top-4 guy. Add those two in with Erik Johnson and Tyson Barrie, and you have one of the best top-four defensive corps in the league. They are 27 and 26 years old, respectively.

The Kings are a notoriously low-scoring team, and Pearson has more goals than both Duchene and Landeskog this season. He's exceptional on the PK and throws his body around. Oh, and he's only 24.

Kempe is the top prospect in the Kings system. He had an exceptional training camp and will be a mainstay in the Kings top-six in a few years. Oh and he's only 20 years old.

Dowd has surprised everyone this year and has turned into an exceptional 3rd line center. Jim Fox can't shut up about his playmaking ability and how he's second on the Kings in that area to only Anze Kopitar. He also plays a solid two-way game and throws his weight around.

King is only in there to clear up a roster spot and to send some salary back the other way to make the cap numbers work. His contract is over on July 1, so he would finish out the season then become a UFA.

Finally, there's a 1st AND a 2nd round pick in there.

All of the players in this trade are no older than 27, and all but two of the players included in this deal are 24 and under. I'm not sure how you can say they're too old, unless you also think that Johnson and Barrie don't belong on the team either.
- tkecanuck341

Honestly LA probably doesn't have what it takes to get a single one of Duchene/Gabe.

We know that the Avs are looking for a top 4 Dman under 24, a 1st round pick and a top end prospect for Duchene. If the Dman isn't established then it will also take a 2nd. Maybe slightly less for Gabe.

The biggest part of the deal is the Dman, and LA doesn't have one that fits into that category. So there really isn't anything there. You can throw all the depth players and picks on there you want but that wont change anything.

Also there is no chance the Avs are retaining salary, unless the deal is a home run, which any deal with LA wouldn't be.

I'm not discounting LA's players at all, they just aren't a fit for what the Avs want.

With that said if LA offered Muzzin, Ladue and 1st for Gabe the Avs would definitely have to think about it.

But realistically all that happens is the Kings give up mid low pick for Iggy

Honestly LA probably doesn't have what it takes to get a single one of Duchene/Gabe.

We know that the Avs are looking for a top 4 Dman under 24, a 1st round pick and a top end prospect for Duchene. If the Dman isn't established then it will also take a 2nd. Maybe slightly less for Gabe.

The biggest part of the deal is the Dman, and LA doesn't have one that fits into that category. So there really isn't anything there. You can throw all the depth players and picks on there you want but that wont change anything.

Also there is no chance the Avs are retaining salary, unless the deal is a home run, which any deal with LA wouldn't be.

I'm not discounting LA's players at all, they just aren't a fit for what the Avs want.

With that said if LA offered Muzzin, Ladue and 1st for Gabe the Avs would definitely have to think about it.

But realistically all that happens is the Kings give up mid low pick for Iggy
- Meeqsb

The Kings can't afford to give up Muzzin and LaDue.

LaDue is exempt from the expansion draft, meaning they can only protect 3 of Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez, Forbort, and McNabb. If they make no moves, Forbort gets drafted. If they trade one of Muzzin or Martinez, then Forbort gets protected and McNabb gets drafted. If they trade Muzzin and McNabb, then Forbort gets protected and Dowd gets drafted. Regardless, LaDue is protected and fills a roster slot next season. At minimum, they have Doughty, Martinez/Muzzin, Forbort/McNabb, Gravel, and LaDue next season.

If the Kings trade Muzzin and LaDue, then McNabb will get taken in the Draft, leaving them with only Doughty, Martinez, Forbort, and Gravel, with no NHL ready prospects to fill in the last two defensive roster spots.

The Kings can't afford to give up Muzzin and LaDue.

LaDue is exempt from the expansion draft, meaning they can only protect 3 of Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez, Forbort, and McNabb. If they make no moves, Forbort gets drafted. If they trade one of Muzzin or Martinez, then Forbort gets protected and McNabb gets drafted. If they trade Muzzin and McNabb, then Forbort gets protected and Dowd gets drafted. Regardless, LaDue is protected and fills a roster slot next season. At minimum, they have Doughty, Martinez/Muzzin, Forbort/McNabb, Gravel, and LaDue next season.

If the Kings trade Muzzin and LaDue, then McNabb will get taken in the Draft, leaving them with only Doughty, Martinez, Forbort, and Gravel, with no NHL ready prospects to fill in the last two defensive roster spots.
- tkecanuck341

I think the Kings and Avs are bad trading partners for anything other than the Avs giving them rentals. Only mentioned Ladue because we know the Avs were scouting him.

I think the Kings and Avs are bad trading partners for anything other than the Avs giving them rentals. Only mentioned Ladue because we know the Avs were scouting him.
- Meeqsb

Quite possible. The Kings would love to have Iginla to play on Kopitar's wing, but Lombardi won't give up a 1st for a rental again and LaDue would be an overpayment. They might consider taking on Tyutin as a depth option since neither Greene nor Gilbert have worked out this season, but they wouldn't give up much for him either.

Quite possible. The Kings would love to have Iginla to play on Kopitar's wing, but Lombardi won't give up a 1st for a rental again and LaDue would be an overpayment. They might consider taking on Tyutin as a depth option since neither Greene nor Gilbert have worked out this season, but they wouldn't give up much for him either.
- tkecanuck341

For Iggy its all about which team does he feel will give him the best chance at a cup. He'd cost no more than a 3rd unless some team really went crazy.

I think Tyutin would be a great rental for a team actually. History has shown 2 2nds are the going rate for a defensive Dman these past few years but we'll have to see what a team who is going for it is willing to give.

I dont have a clue what Ladue would be part of a deal in, only that the Avs were scouting him.

For Iggy its all about which team does he feel will give him the best chance at a cup. He'd cost no more than a 3rd unless some team really went crazy.

I think Tyutin would be a great rental for a team actually. History has shown 2 2nds are the going rate for a defensive Dman these past few years but we'll have to see what a team who is going for it is willing to give.

I dont have a clue what Ladue would be part of a deal in, only that the Avs were scouting him.
- Meeqsb

I guess we'll find out soon enough. Cheers!