What do you do with this team?
- Just5

play the long game
try to entertain offers for Simmonds Mason MDZ
see if anyone will bite on players like Raffl and Read
Trade Streit for the best offer at the TDL
Pursue Bishop and other UFAs like Oshie
maybe give Thornton/Marleau a 1 year deal to be the vet guy if San Jose lets them walk
Look at Alzner and/or McBain

Do the best at getting a top 5 pick with trading assets

mason is not worth a 1st more like a 3rd and a prospect at best

mason is not worth a 1st more like a 3rd and a prospect at best
- 2Real

Totally surprising you think this way.

It's funny because 2Real is probably right. No one is giving up a 1st for a soon to be UFA having one of the worst years of his career. It probably is more like a 3rd, which is pointless.

Just ride him out and hope that he, and the team defense around him, picks up. He probably cost himself a big contract, and no other team will give him any more than the Flyers anyway. Handshake agree on a 1-2 year deal on his current cap, and protect Stolarz. It's almost a win that he had a down year long-term. No more looking at a 4-5 year, $5mil+ contract. No goalie out there will be better and will just be more expensive. Too long of a track record to throw him out at the first sign of difficulty.

I actually dont find PEB to be a horrible depth player..Problem is we have about 8 versions of PEB right now.

I think Streit could fetch a 2nd+3rd from some team. Perhaps there's a market for MDZ for a 3rd.

Both deals I'd do. Of course I'd like to move a few more pieces of detritus, but either they're not really movable (I'd do it for 5th and 6th rounders even) or the team won't even want to move them in a few players' cases.

play the long game
try to entertain offers for Simmonds Mason MDZ
see if anyone will bite on players like Raffl and Read
Trade Streit for the best offer at the TDL
Pursue Bishop and other UFAs like Oshie
maybe give Thornton/Marleau a 1 year deal to be the vet guy if San Jose lets them walk
Look at Alzner and/or McBain

Do the best at getting a top 5 pick with trading assets
- 2Real

In trading Simmonds I'm identifying teams that would be interested. First team that pops is Montreal far and away. I can also see the young teams having interest in a veteran like him. Arizona, Toronto, etc.

Flyers could get a haul, no doubt and they should look at it with Konecny and Jake in the fold as RW's. His value is at the highest it will ever be.

Don't know how good MTL would be as a trade partner. Their 2 best prospects might be dmen Sergachev and Juulsen. Which isn't great for the flyers needs

In trading Simmonds I'm identifying teams that would be interested. First team that pops is Montreal far and away. I can also see the young teams having interest in a veteran like him. Arizona, Toronto, etc.

Flyers could get a haul, no doubt and they should look at it with Konecny and Jake in the fold as RW's. His value is at the highest it will ever be.
- Just5

It would be brutal to trade Wayne..

He is everything we need on this team but I understand the restock by moving him approach.

Just would suck in every way to see it happen.

In trading Simmonds I'm identifying teams that would be interested. First team that pops is Montreal far and away. I can also see the young teams having interest in a veteran like him. Arizona, Toronto, etc.

Flyers could get a haul, no doubt and they should look at it with Konecny and Jake in the fold as RW's. His value is at the highest it will ever be.

Don't know how good MTL would be as a trade partner. Their 2 best prospects might be dmen Sergachev and Juulsen. Which isn't great for the flyers needs
- Just5

Edmonton LOVES Simmonds but the only deal I'm interested in is Draisaitl++
(obv McDavid isnt going anywhere)

To Edm: Simmonds and Morin

To Phi: Draisaitl, Cagguila, 1st

To Edm: Simmonds and Morin

To Phi: Draisaitl, Cagguila, 1st
- Mordecai

Sweet mother of HAK..How soft would this team be then?

To Cgy: Simmonds, Schenn, 2nd

To Phi: Sam Bennett, Dougie Hamilton (+)?

To Edm: Simmonds and Morin

To Phi: Draisaitl, Cagguila, 1st
- Mordecai

No more former UND players of Hakstol on this team. Ever again. But to be serious, this just seems like an overcomplicated deal, just simplify it to Simmonds and Drai.

I think Edmonton declines Simmonds for Drai 1 for 1, but Chiarelli is also an idiot and that must be factored in. Drai is currently on RW, but I do that deal 1 for 1 in a heartbeat. I think anyone would, love Simmer though we do. It just doesn't seem realistic. Edmonton probably envisions dumping RNH and running McDavid/Dr. Drai for the next decade plus as their stacked top 6 centers. And they just signed Lucic.

Sweet mother of HAK..How soft would this team be then?
- opeth_pa

Im not advocating trading Simmonds, but who is the big tough power forward on Pittsburgh?

No more former UND players of Hakstol on this team. Ever again. But to be serious, this just seems like an overcomplicated deal, just simplify it to Simmonds and Drai.

I think Edmonton declines Simmonds for Drai 1 for 1, but Chiarelli is also an idiot and that must be factored in. Drai is currently on RW, but I do that deal 1 for 1 in a heartbeat. I think anyone would, love Simmer though we do. It just doesn't seem realistic. Edmonton probably envisions dumping RNH and running McDavid/Dr. Drai for the next decade plus as their stacked top 6 centers.
- Mononoke

Hahahaha I have to agree about no more UND players.

I'm relying on Chia going full Chia.

I'd go Simmonds and a couple 2nds for Draisaitl at most.

Im not advocating trading Simmonds, but who is the big tough power forward on Pittsburgh?
- MJL

Phil Kessel

Im not advocating trading Simmonds, but who is the big tough power forward on Pittsburgh?
- MJL

I hear you but the Pens arent a valid comparison to me..
Show me another team that has the best player in the world and another player that isnt far off from that...

Sort of makes up a lot for them not having certain defined roles.

Hahahaha I have to agree about no more UND players.

I'm relying on Chia going full Chia.

I'd go Simmonds and a couple 2nds for Draisaitl at most.
- Mordecai

The 2nds mean nothing to me in acquiring a future 1C or top line winger, at worst. I just don't think it sways them. It's like offering 2 more 2nds + Puljujarvi for Provorov. Just don't want to trade him. I imagine Edmonton would consider it only for Provorov now that I bring his name up.

Like I said, my interest is in packaging Schenn+1st before I go anywhere near Simmonds in a trade. You look at a team like the Islanders, and maybe they'd be interested in that for their 1st, if they bottom out to bottom 10, plus someone like Barzal -- with Okposo gone their winger depth is shot, and they need to keep Tavarass happy. I could think of other better examples, but this just came to me off top of my head. Ignore that specifically if you want, but that's the type of deal I'd be interested in.

No more former UND players of Hakstol on this team. Ever again. But to be serious, this just seems like an overcomplicated deal, just simplify it to Simmonds and Drai.

I think Edmonton declines Simmonds for Drai 1 for 1, but Chiarelli is also an idiot and that must be factored in. Drai is currently on RW, but I do that deal 1 for 1 in a heartbeat. I think anyone would, love Simmer though we do. It just doesn't seem realistic. Edmonton probably envisions dumping RNH and running McDavid/Dr. Drai for the next decade plus as their stacked top 6 centers. And they just signed Lucic.
- Mononoke

What about Chicago. Schmaltz + a pick for Simmonds?

I hear you but the Pens arent a valid comparison to me..
Show me another team that has the best player in the world and another player that isnt far off from that...

Sort of makes up a lot for them not having certain defined roles.
- opeth_pa

So having really good players is the key? So instead of saying that we need to have a certain kind of player, we just need to be a good team. Many ways to skin a cat. Worrying about being too soft without Simmonds is not a reason not.to trade him in my view. Good is good.

What about Chicago. Schmaltz + a pick for Simmonds?
- Just5

Schmaltz is not that good

To Cgy: Simmonds, Schenn, 2nd

To Phi: Sam Bennett, Dougie Hamilton (+)?
- Mordecai

I like bennett. From montreal i would want galchenyuk. Any deal with simmonds i would need a youg center coming back. One who could be a top 2 center.

To calgary: simmonds, mason, 2nd.

To philly: bennett, jankowski, brian elliot, 1st rounder.

Looks like a lot but simmomds is on controllable team friendly deal. I resign elliot to be competition for stolarz next season or back up. Plus exposed to expansion draft. Bennett could be a potential number one center. Jankowski i am not sure where he is yet so could be introging prospect at his size.

So having really good players is the key? So instead of saying that we need to have a certain kind of player, we.just need to be a good team. Many ways to skin a cat. Worrying about being too soft without Simmonds is not a reason not.to trade him in my view. Good is good.
- MJL

I wouldnt call Crosby or Malkin a really good player..
I would call them 2 of the top 3 forwards in the world.
THey are that good that they can overcome a lack of toughness when both avail.
Im worried that if you move Simmonds and MOrin (just going on size) you are now playing with a team of hobbits.

The 2nds mean nothing to me in acquiring a future 1C or top line winger, at worst. I just don't think it sways them. It's like offering 2 more 2nds + Puljujarvi for Provorov. Just don't want to trade him. I imagine Edmonton would consider it only for Provorov now that I bring his name up.

Like I said, my interest is in packaging Schenn+1st before I go anywhere near Simmonds in a trade. You look at a team like the Islanders, and maybe they'd be interested in that for their 1st, if they bottom out to bottom 10, plus someone like Barzal -- with Okposo gone their winger depth is shot, and they need to keep Tavarass happy. I could think of other better examples, but this just came to me off top of my head. Ignore that specifically if you want, but that's the type of deal I'd be interested in.
- Mononoke

I feel you. Barzal wouldn't be a bad pick up, he is essentially a Giroux type player.

I wouldnt call Crosby or Malkin a really good player..
I would call them 2 of the top 3 forwards in the world.
THey are that good that they can overcome a lack of toughness when both avail.
Im worried that if you move Simmonds and MOrin (just going on size) you are now playing with a team of hobbits.
- opeth_pa

Every top team, and those who win the Cup have some of the best forwards and players in the World. That seems to be the winning formula to me.