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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
So, with many of us, including me, thinking that the Flyers need to find another solid center for next season, here are some names that intrigue me. First up, a couple of RFA's who they would need to trade for:

Sam Bennett
Mikhail Grigorenko

Obviously Bennett would cost more and has a much higher upside, but Grigorenko could possibly fill a need at 3C.

And, the UFA's

Martin Hanzal
The big guy would be a nice 3C fit here, but he is injury prone and that is a concern. While his health issues may keep the cost down somewhat, he still may cost more than they'd want to spend even if available

Mike Fisher
I doubt he wants to leave Nashville to go anywhere, and he'll be 37 next season, but if he were willing to sign a 1 year deal, I'd have interest

Patrick Berglund
Depending on how many years and how much he'll cost, he could be a perfect fit.

Nick Bonino
The Pens won't have much to spend on a guy like Bonino, but he also won't cost a fortune. He could also be a decent short-term 3C fit.

Thoughts?

- BiggE


Depending on how the next couple of weeks go for Tampa, id possibly add Tyler Johnson to the RFA list.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:51 AM ET
Go look at their 5v5 save %s over the years (or Mason's alone), and then look at PK save %. There's a disconnect.

The year Mason finished 2nd in NHL behind Price I believe at 5v5 (14-15), he had a .944 save % 5v5. And a .844 save % PK. This year, where we all know he has been subpar? He has a .909 5v5 save %.....and .854 on the PK. He is actually higher there than his career year. Last year? .937 save % 5v5....and .820 on the PK. Higher than there too. A poor save % on the PK is the only constant over the years, regardless of how well he does 5v5.

So how is Mason on the PK actually outperforming his two better years right now? Because it's a lot more than the goalie, unless you really believe Mason can be great 5v5 and then forget how to play goalie on the PK (and that's not even true this year). There's a large enough sample to see that this is systemic from Lappy/Hak down. They choose to play the worst players on the team there, and choose to have poor tactics. A lot of the PK goals against are just blown coverages or complete screens or whatnot -- just unlikely saves on the part of Mason.

- Mononoke


There is a lot of "luck" that goes into 4v5 save percentage
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
So, with many of us, including me, thinking that the Flyers need to find another solid center for next season, here are some names that intrigue me. First up, a couple of RFA's who they would need to trade for:

Sam Bennett
Mikhail Grigorenko

Obviously Bennett would cost more and has a much higher upside, but Grigorenko could possibly fill a need at 3C.

And, the UFA's

Martin Hanzal
The big guy would be a nice 3C fit here, but he is injury prone and that is a concern. While his health issues may keep the cost down somewhat, he still may cost more than they'd want to spend even if available

Mike Fisher
I doubt he wants to leave Nashville to go anywhere, and he'll be 37 next season, but if he were willing to sign a 1 year deal, I'd have interest

Patrick Berglund
Depending on how many years and how much he'll cost, he could be a perfect fit.

Nick Bonino
The Pens won't have much to spend on a guy like Bonino, but he also won't cost a fortune. He could also be a decent short-term 3C fit.

Thoughts?

- BiggE


Bennett or Grigorenko for me.

Both young.

Bennett would be my first choice.


YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
Grand Fleet Admiral?
- BiggE


supreme leader
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
I would trade for Boedker personally to solve our 3C issue
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:53 AM ET
It worked great for them, but they also got kinda lucky to land a superstar that quickly
- PhillySportsGuy

for sure...it worked out perfectly for them
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 11:53 AM ET
Why do you always have to get the last word in responding on dead threads? It's a bit weird. I saw someone else posted another post, even after this new blog was active for 8 hours, and I just had a hunch. Neither I nor anyone else will likely read it or respond. It's just farting in the wind.
- Mononoke


1) I have zero interest in discussing petty and personal complaints
2) Unless a post violates the code of conduct, which is does not, I am free to reply how I see fit.
3) My reply was not on a dead thread.
4) You have the option of exercising your personal right to not read and ignore my posts if you so choose to.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:53 AM ET
I wanna say thank you to the crossbar and goalpost for a shutout against the rags...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 26 @ 11:54 AM ET

supreme leader

- YuenglingJagr


I require my wife to refer to me as: Grand Master of All Things and Lord of Single Malt. However she just sadly shakes her head, and tells me to put out the trash while muttering "moron" under her breath.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 11:54 AM ET
Trade for top dmen like Polak and Hunwick?
- Feanor



You don't think improving the Flyers defense could improve their PK?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:55 AM ET
I wanna say thank you to the crossbar and goalpost for a shutout against the rags...
- Konalover

they're the best!

goalpost actually scored last night too
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:55 AM ET
There is a lot of "luck" that goes into 4v5 save percentage
- YuenglingJagr


My eye test tells me that Mason has not been unlucky. Keep in mind that my great grandfather was a leprechaun so I know a bit more than most on the topic.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:55 AM ET
Grand Fleet Admiral?
- BiggE

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:56 AM ET
1) I have zero interest in discussing petty and personal complaints
2) Unless a post violates the code of conduct, which is does not, I am free to reply how I see fit.
3) My reply was not on a dead thread.
4) You have the option of exercising your personal right to now read and ignore my posts if you so choose to.

- MJL


SAD!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 26 @ 11:56 AM ET
I would trade for Boedker personally to solve our 3C issue
- Mononoke


Interesting. Is San Jose looking to move him?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:56 AM ET
I require my wife to refer to me as: Grand Master of All Things and Lord of Single Malt. However she just sadly shakes her head, and tells me to put out the trash while muttering "moron" under her breath.
- BiggE

she sounds oppressed
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 26 @ 11:56 AM ET
for sure...it worked out perfectly for them
- YuenglingJagr


Kinda makes me mad that they didn't have to suffer longer. I know they're Leafs fans so they've suffered for a long time, but they didn't have to go through 4 years of dumb people calling you an idiot.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 26 @ 11:57 AM ET
they're the best!

goalpost actually scored last night too

- YuenglingJagr


Yeah, but advanced stats clearly show crossbar to be the better player.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:57 AM ET
Kinda makes me mad that they didn't have to suffer longer. I know they're Leafs fans so they've suffered for a long time, but they didn't have to go through 4 years of dumb people calling you an idiot.
- PhillySportsGuy

i mean they haven't won poop yet, but they are definitely a fun team to watch. lots of reason to be excited. I will be attending the Flyers game there on March 9th
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 26 @ 11:57 AM ET
Just playing devils advocate, but if Nashville ends up not wanting to re-sign him, does he just retire or would he look to sign somewhere else?
- BiggE




Plus they have a kid. Absolutely zero need to disrupt the family.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 26 @ 11:58 AM ET

- dragonoffrost


As soon as I saw this I immediately heard him say IT'S A TRAP!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:58 AM ET


Plus they have a kid. Absolutely zero need to disrupt the family.

- Scoob

god damn, he is so sexy
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:58 AM ET
I would trade for Boedker personally to solve our 3C issue
- Mononoke



So what you are saying is you would play Boedker as the 2C and move Coots to 3C?

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 26 @ 11:58 AM ET
she sounds oppressed
- YuenglingJagr


Trust me, she's got the life.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:58 AM ET
BONINOBONINOBONINOBONINOBONINO NICK BO NINO!!
- Streit2ThePoint


What's up with your team's name/logo court battle?
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