October 2 points in 9 games (0.22 ppg)
November 8 points in 12 games (0.66 ppg)
December 10 points in 14 games (0.71 ppg)
January 6 points in 11 games (0.54 ppg)

He seems streaky, but if you actually break down his numbers they are usually pretty consistent. Even last season in 20 game intervals they were pretty close throughout the whole year, we just expect higher production from him I guess. Last night ended what tied his longest drought this season without a point, which was 5 games
- WhiteLie

...and he finished very strong in the 2nd half last season. Since this time last year, he has had only a couple of small skids and had been one hell of a solid two way player for us.

Whiskey doesn't want to look at a one year sample. Cherry picking to fit the criticisms mostly...

I just copied this from Canucks Army - so I don't have to do any research of my own as I am lazy

•***So, Baertschi's having himself quite the season. If he continues at this pace, Baertschi will finish with 23 goals and 46 points. In laymen's, he's on pace for fringe first line production. He's the 41st most productive even strength scorer by Corsica.Hockey, and I doubt they've updated their database to include tonight's results yet. That number could spike by tomorrow. Nothing new here, though. It seems every time I'm writing one of these I'm breaking down how obscenely productive Baertschi is.***

You are right that he is too streaky of a player but the bottom line is he gets it done. To you point regarding the playoffs? Who knows how he will perform. He did do great for Utica in the playoffs though. My point is I do believe he can be part of the core. Granlund, I would like to keep him but won't lose sleep if Vegas claims him.
- CanuckDon

I think there should be more concern if management lets him be lost. He still is on a 20 goal pace and only 23, there are not many of those in the NHL. This team does not have the luxury of losing a young player with the potential to hit 20 goals in a season

Ain't that the truth

I agree, he's a nice piece having a great season so-far, but, putting things in perspective we are a ways off in terms of assembling that post Sedin, competitive top six.

?-?-?
Sven-Bo-Boeser (assuming he develops into what i think we all hope can be a 30 goal guy).

I think Eriksson's a top six guy under-performing but, by the time we find those first line guys, he will likely be even ollllllder.

Virtanen is having a rough go being a 3rd liner in the AHL

- Whiskey-Tango

What has Travis Green said about his progress? Is he actually struggling or is he pouting?

- bloatedmosquito

not quite the son of a billionaire but does anyone remember when a young arthur griffiths skated with the team at a practice?

team owners past and present

Hi Brock
- bloatedmosquito

Ain't that the truth

I agree, he's a nice piece having a great season so-far, but, putting things in perspective we are a ways off in terms of assembling that post Sedin, competitive top six.

?-?-?
Sven-Bo-Boeser (assuming he develops into what i think we all hope can be a 30 goal guy).

I think Eriksson's a top six guy under-performing but, by the time we find those first line guys, he will likely be even ollllllder.

Virtanen is having a rough go being a 3rd liner in the AHL

- Whiskey-Tango

I am not disputing the fact we need a lot more high end prospects...At least our D looks pretty good for the future

maybe.

I look at it and wonder if a player is going to develop a certain way regardless of environment or if the environment and opportunity are determining factors?

Would Sven's development be where it is today if he was still in Calgary or would he be languishing in the AHL?

I'm a Sven fan.
- hillbillydeluxe

I've never been much of a Sven fan, if I'm being honest. But I do like stats, and his trajectory since the start of last season is crystal clear from that perspective. That and the amount of game-winners is winning me over, he just seems to find the holes.

I think there should be more concern if management lets him be lost. He still is on a 20 goal pace and only 23, there are not many of those in the NHL. This team does not have the luxury of losing a young player with the potential to hit 20 goals in a season
- WhiteLie

What should they do though? The only solution I can see is trading Hansen which is a challenge give our position in the standings and his lack of durability

I'm not convinced this team makes the playoffs, even as pro-tanker I do find watching Bo/Bae play so well pretty great. I think we miss out, not by much but teams like LA and Dallas will heat back up. Can the Canucks stay hot? that second line will be the deciding factor, which I've said all along I'm fine if its the young guys leading the way. I think were a bubble team in the draft, hopefully top-15. If Tanev or Edler go down, we may be singing a different tune, as much as it's that second line, those two back in the lineup healthy has been a huge difference (have a look at our record when one or both are out).
- neem55

I don't want see guys go down. If Edler is traded then it works out. The canucks get worse, more playing time for future core players, Edler possibly goes to a contender, etc, etc.

What has Travis Green said about his progress? Is he actually struggling or is he pouting?
- LordHumungous

Travis has been praising him for his commitment etc... talking about the improvements that you don't see on the score sheet etc..

Somewhere I heard a fan saying he is playing physical and having a run of bad luck on converting scoring chances.

He'll come around.

What has Travis Green said about his progress? Is he actually struggling or is he pouting?
- LordHumungous

He is playing fairly hard...lots of shots...no finish

So, we won't win a cup with Bart on our team? Ok.

- boonerbuck

lol come on now.

My point was more along the lines that if this team is primarily relying upon the offensive production of a player like Sven, in the absence of the twins, without drafting a game-changer or two, then frankly, i don't think we will see the cup finals anytime soon.

We had the leagues best offense at the time of our run, with guys like the Twins and Kesler putting up points at a torrid pace and still came up short.

Sven is great, one of my favorites.
Do i think he has the ability to take over a series or two like the above listed players, no. He's a great complimentary piece to a line-up that has yet to really exist.

not quite the son of a billionaire but does anyone remember when a young arthur griffiths skated with the team at a practice?

team owners past and present
- RealityChecker

But you know what I mean. Decent player but definitely a privileged path.

Travis has been praising him for his commitment etc... talking about the improvements that you don't see on the score sheet etc..

Somewhere I heard a fan saying he is playing physical and having a run of bad luck on converting scoring chances.

He'll come around.
- boonerbuck

Good to hear

I don't want see guys go down. If Edler is traded then it works out. The canucks get worse, more playing time for future core players, Edler possibly goes to a contender, etc, etc.
- bloatedmosquito

too much suggests FA wants to make the playoffs, I honestly don't see any trades happening this year for us now that we've been playing so well. Off-season is another story, I really hope Edler is moved before the expansion draft.

I've never been much of a Sven fan, if I'm being honest. But I do like stats, and his trajectory since the start of last season is crystal clear from that perspective. That and the amount of game-winners is winning me over, he just seems to find the holes.
- neem55

goals have been so hard to come by for years with this team.

Sven is going to be a 20 goal scorer. Seems to get along well with team mates. I can't complain with his development here.

He wasn't going to the tough areas when he first got here but does now and is getting rewarded - playing the right way.

Not really a fair comparison. Any and all young guys have to learn consistency, Sven's playing in his second full-season and every stat has improved from last year. This suggests that he is and that Canucks may have fleeced Calgary in that deal.
- neem55

Of that i have absolutely no doubt, never have.

too much suggests FA wants to make the playoffs, I honestly don't see any trades happening this year for us now that we've been playing so well. Off-season is another story, I really hope Edler is moved before the expansion draft.
- neem55

I think that's the way it's going to go. JBs going to stand pat. Basically, live or die with this group.

Interesting post...he has been quite consistent if you remove the first 9 games
- CanuckDon

Last season in 20 game intervals he had

First 20 GP - 7 points
Next 20 GP - 10 points
Next 20 GP - 9 points
Final 9 GP - 2 points

He was, however pointless in 45 games out of 69 (65%). This year he is pointless in 28 games out of 46 (60%) so slight improvment

...and he finished very strong in the 2nd half last season. Since this time last year, he has had only a couple of small skids and had been one hell of a solid two way player for us.

Whiskey doesn't want to look at a one year sample. Cherry picking to fit the criticisms mostly...
- boonerbuck

PPPPPPPPPleaseee.

Half this board was calling him a bust throughout the first month and a half of the season. I believe i was one of the few calling for caution and optimism on Sven's behalf lol.

What should they do though? The only solution I can see is trading Hansen which is a challenge give our position in the standings and his lack of durability
- CanuckDon

Our position in the standings has been accomplished mostly without Hansen. Reward the players that get you to the dance, they will benefit most from participating in the playoff chase/experience IMO. I move Hansen for the best deal they can get on deadline day at noon, even if its below market value

PPPPPPPPPleaseee.

Half this board was calling him a bust throughout the first month and a half of the season. I believe i was one of the few calling for caution and optimism on Sven's behalf lol.
- Whiskey-Tango

Oh I remember that...amazing how quickly people turn on our players

Our position in the standings has been accomplished mostly without Hansen. Reward the players that get you to the dance, they will benefit most from participating in the playoff chase/experience IMO. I move Hansen for the best deal they can get on deadline day at noon, even if its below market value
- WhiteLie

I would be fine with that. The return won't be great but a 2nd rounder helps the rebuild and allows us to keep Granlund and Bae

Of that i have absolutely no doubt, never have.
- Whiskey-Tango

On reading your posts I understand your position better, IMO much like BO we don't know how good Bart is yet. If it's a great second line, so be it. I think were a #1 center away myself, as Boeser looks like the kind of elite scoring threat you are talking about and that pretty much solidifies the top6 except for that elusive 1C position. I predict JB will continue to focus on the Center/D positions in the hopes of landing that true #1 guy in those positions (as its too early to know what we have in Tree/Juolevi). Maybe he goes all in on Duchene, Trades Tanev and our pick or maybe even JV.

...and he finished very strong in the 2nd half last season. Since this time last year, he has had only a couple of small skids and had been one hell of a solid two way player for us.

Whiskey doesn't want to look at a one year sample. Cherry picking to fit the criticisms mostly...
- boonerbuck

Production-wise thats a misconception. He definitely looked more dangerous each game but 2 points in the last 9 games is no different than his "slow start" this year of the same average. Biggest difference between those 9 games is he looked more dangerous, but the guy continues to produce points, I am confident he is a 2nd line player