HUH? You want more exact. Drouin puts up 15 more points. Stamkos puts up 10 more points, Kucherov puts up 5 more points, Palat puts up 5 more points, Namestnikov puts up 5 more points, third line guys combine for 10 more points. That better?
- Kucherovski

Oh okay so nobody on the team will regress or have a bad year.

HUH? You want more exact. Drouin puts up 15 more points. Stamkos puts up 10 more points, Kucherov puts up 5 more points, Palat puts up 5 more points, Namestnikov puts up 5 more points, third line guys combine for 10 more points. That better?
- Kucherovski

Oh okay so nobody on the team will regress or have a bad year.
- Feds91Stammer

Could Johnson not regress and have a bad year? Could nobody have a better year? I'm not following. You can make the assumption Johnson will get 55 (using one good year in numbers) or 49 points (without one good year) but I can't assume everyone will add more? Stamkos has been out almost all year. You think if Stamkos played a full year next year he may have the 29 extra points that Johnson has? At least close to it? Johnson will want more than $3m per year, he is not worth it at all. Yes other people on our team are not worth their deal but Johnson is the one needing a new one.

- eichiefs9

isn't he great?

How about you just give Stamkos to us as a donation and the Hockey Gods will bless Tampa with a Stanley Cup in 2021

- eichiefs9

I mean at least that explains a lot. It is a stretch to think Kucherov and Palat could combine for 10 more points! Shoot for the stars as they say!

Could Johnson not regress and have a bad year? Could nobody have a better year? I'm not following. You can make the assumption Johnson will get 55 (using one good year in numbers) or 49 points (without one good year) but I can't assume everyone will add more? Stamkos has been out almost all year. You think if Stamkos played a full year next year he may have the 29 extra points that Johnson has? At least close to it? Johnson will want more than $3m per year, he is not worth it at all. Yes other people on our team are not worth their deal but Johnson is the one needing a new one.
- Kucherovski

I mean at least that explains a lot. It is a stretch to think Kucherov and Palat could combine for 10 more points! Shoot for the stars as they say!
- Kucherovski

Holy (frank) you're stupid.

- Feds91Stammer

What does he bring? Kucherov is getting $4.75m, you're telling me Johnson is worth $4m? Kucherov is worth only $750k more than Johnson? Can't be real life if that is the case.

Could Johnson not regress and have a bad year? Could nobody have a better year? I'm not following. You can make the assumption Johnson will get 55 (using one good year in numbers) or 49 points (without one good year) but I can't assume everyone will add more? Stamkos has been out almost all year. You think if Stamkos played a full year next year he may have the 29 extra points that Johnson has? At least close to it? Johnson will want more than $3m per year, he is not worth it at all. Yes other people on our team are not worth their deal but Johnson is the one needing a new one.
- Kucherovski

JOHNSON IS NOT WORTH MORE THAN 3 MILLION PER YEAR?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

Holy (frank) you're stupid.
- j.boyd919

HAHA, so is that you saying Kucherov and Palat could not combine, in a full season, for 10 more points? I'm not sure I understand your grade school insult in regards to what part is not accurate?

HAHA, so is that you saying Kucherov and Palat could not combine, in a full season, for 10 more points? I'm not sure I understand your grade school insult in regards to what part is not accurate?
- Kucherovski

Damn, you are exactly who gives the Lightning fans a bad name.

What does he bring? Kucherov is getting $4.75m, you're telling me Johnson is worth $4m? Kucherov is worth only $750k more than Johnson? Can't be real life if that is the case.
- Kucherovski

Comparing apples and hand grenades...

JOHNSON IS NOT WORTH MORE THAN 3 MILLION PER YEAR?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
- j.boyd919

It is safe to assume that Johnson has banged his mom/sister/girlfriend/wife

Damn, you are exactly who gives the Lightning fans a bad name.
- j.boyd919

Ok take your time, figure out more insults (attempted insults). Next go with a mamma joke, those kill. Before the day is out explain how those two in a full season combining for 10 more points is stupid, I'm excited to read that.

HAHA, so is that you saying Kucherov and Palat could not combine, in a full season, for 10 more points? I'm not sure I understand your grade school insult in regards to what part is not accurate?
- Kucherovski

What part of your magical theory where everyone just scores more points makes any (frank)ing sense?

Comparing apples and hand grenades...


- Feds91Stammer

Nope comparing two forwards on the Tampa Bay Lightning. That's what we're talking about. Contracts for players on the same team. Do you think GM's in the NHL don't talk about other contracts when negotiating with players? Talking about a 23 year old guy compared to Johnson at 26 within the exact same organization.

What part of your magical theory where everyone just scores more points makes any (frank)ing sense?
- Feds91Stammer

The part where Stamkos has been out almost all year. The part where, in your theory, Johnson scores 55 so we have to replace exactly that number. The part where, for most young players, they get better each year.

This is who I think will not be Bolts next year in my opinion:

Bishop - traded at the deadline for a decent haul even though he is a UFA or before the expansion draft for something as little as a 3rd or 4th round pick for negotiating rights

Boyle - traded at the deadline for an over payment, people love him and want him to stay but I don't think his production will warrant the raise he going to get, I think his numbers are skewed this year due to high shooting percentage (playing the Andreychuck position on the powerplay as well as with Drouin and Fil)

Garrison - someone might trade for him because his actual salary next year is only 2.5M even though he carries a 4.6M cap hit. If not they buy him out.

Filppula - I really think the Bolts can move Val, he is worth the rest of his contract this year and the 5M next year he is paid in my opinion due being a veteran C/W 18-20M minute cruncher who is sound defensively who can be someones 2C - Tampa Bay Times keeps mentioning Filppula with the Blues could it happen?

Johnson - of the RFAs he is the one who is most expendable. But then if they lost Filppula as well is he really expendable? with Filppula gone they can probably keep Johnson.

We are stuck with Cally and that contract and Coburn who is not as bad as people make him out to be.
- stammerman

Boyle - possibly, but I think Tampa fans love him more than out of Tampa market fans.

Garrison - Probably not. His production fell off a cliff


Definitely could see a Filp buyout. Maybe trade if they retain?

Nope comparing two forwards on the Tampa Bay Lightning. That's what we're talking about. Contracts for players on the same team. Do you think GM's in the NHL don't talk about other contracts when negotiating with players? Talking about a 23 year old guy compared to Johnson at 26 within the exact same organization.
- Kucherovski

Comparing a 2nd deal that ends in RFA versus a 3rd deal that ends in UFA is the same thing I guess...

Boyle - possibly, but I think Tampa fans love him more than out of Tampa market fans.

Garrison - Probably not. His production fell off a cliff


Definitely could see a Filp buyout. Maybe trade if they retain?
- j.boyd919

Cause they stooopid

Comparing a 2nd deal that ends in RFA versus a 3rd deal that ends in UFA is the same thing I guess...
- Feds91Stammer

Nobody ever said anything about the extra parts, the bonuses the RFA vs. UFA at the end. Johnson, as a hockey player on the Lightning, salary cap hit for the Lightning is not worth over $4m per year in my opinion. There are tons of other parts of a contract so if you want to be so specific go for it, I am talking straight dollar value for both players.

I mean at least that explains a lot. It is a stretch to think Kucherov and Palat could combine for 10 more points! Shoot for the stars as they say!
- Kucherovski

You're just saying things though. Point totals fluctuate, people get injured, people have down years, etc...

Case in point: The Islanders could have just said "Well historically Chimera has outscored Martin, Ladd has produced similar-or-better than Okposo, Lee/Nelson/Strome should take a step forward and make up for Nielsen's lost production." We all see how well that's gone for the Isles this year.

Nope comparing two forwards on the Tampa Bay Lightning. That's what we're talking about. Contracts for players on the same team. Do you think GM's in the NHL don't talk about other contracts when negotiating with players? Talking about a 23 year old guy compared to Johnson at 26 within the exact same organization.
- Kucherovski

When you are players, you have to look at every angle. RFA vs. UFA status, position, production, age, etc. If you are not looking at those things, your opinion is absolutely flawed and should never, ever be considered.

When you are players, you have to look at every angle. RFA vs. UFA status, position, production, age, etc. If you are not looking at those things, your opinion is absolutely flawed and should never, ever be considered.
- j.boyd919

I am not a player and the Lightning, as an organization, have to deal with Salary Cap first and foremost. UFA, RFA matters to the player and maybe Yzerman but if the dollars don't fit under the cap the other stuff doesn't matter. If Kucherov is a $4.75m CAP HIT to the Lightning Johnson is not worth $4m of the Lightning salary cap in my opinion.