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Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jan 26 @ 1:58 PM ET
In Callahan's case I'd rather do that then see him on the roster for 3 more years.
- Feds91Stammer


Perhaps he can be on LTIR for 3 more seasons like many finished players with long contracts.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
You are a Penguin fan so why do you care?
- Leafsandbolts


Worked for the Lightning for like 5 years, so I'm pretty knowledgable about the team. I like some guys on the team and they're usually fun to watch. I like to talk hockey too.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 26 @ 2:04 PM ET
Perhaps he can be on LTIR for 3 more seasons like many finished players with long contracts.
- Leafsandbolts


hahahaha
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
Perhaps he can be on LTIR for 3 more seasons like many finished players with long contracts.
- Leafsandbolts

LTIR is a terrible plan and players have to be legitimately injured.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 2:06 PM ET
Worked for the Lightning for like 5 years, so I'm pretty knowledgable about the team. I like some guys on the team and they're usually fun to watch. I like to talk hockey too.
- j.boyd919

Well that's just silly
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
Ill take him. What you want in return? lol
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jan 26 @ 2:36 PM ET
Filppula still has value. His game is not declining (yet). Good 2-way center. Given some of the crazy contacts handed out the last few seasons, his one year remaining is not silly. I could see a team taking him without us retaining salary, if we don't expect a big return.

Cally is a blackhole. I think MSL tied Yzerman's hands and Yzerman did the best he could under the circumstances. He's overrated and injury prone. Nobody questions his heart, but the guy is not worth anywhere near that kind of salary. It's more than fair to say he is untradeable. But, he has to go, and preferably before the expansion draft. I say we give him away for nothing (future considerations) to anybody who will take him. poop, I'd put a draft pick with him to get somebody to take the chance - we could afford to give away a pick given our depth. We just can't make a habit of that kind of thing.

I don't know the rules on this, but is there any way we could bury him in the minors? Does that take any of his salary off the books? If he refuses to report once he clears waivers, wouldn't that be grounds to terminate his contract?

I really like Bishop and would hate to see him go, but I don't see how we can keep him. Somebody must be willing to take a chance on him if we don't expect a big return for him. Again, dump him for whatever we can get. Trade him and make Vasy watch endless game tape of Bishop's puck handling and give him a crash course in puck handling. Bishop really has an edge there and it would be great if Vasy could improve in that area somehow.

I wouldn't trade Johnson or Palat.

Garrison is declining, but still has value as a 5 or 6 d-man in a mentor role to a younger D-core. Trade him.

Keep Coburn.



BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
Filppula still has value. His game is not declining (yet). Good 2-way center. Given some of the crazy contacts handed out the last few seasons, his one year remaining is not silly. I could see a team taking him without us retaining salary, if we don't expect a big return.

Cally is a blackhole. I think MSL tied Yzerman's hands and Yzerman did the best he could under the circumstances. He's overrated and injury prone. Nobody questions his heart, but the guy is not worth anywhere near that kind of salary. It's more than fair to say he is untradeable. But, he has to go, and preferably before the expansion draft. I say we give him away for nothing (future considerations) to anybody who will take him. poop, I'd put a draft pick with him to get somebody to take the chance - we could afford to give away a pick given our depth. We just can't make a habit of that kind of thing.

I don't know the rules on this, but is there any way we could bury him in the minors? Does that take any of his salary off the books? If he refuses to report once he clears waivers, wouldn't that be grounds to terminate his contract?

I really like Bishop and would hate to see him go, but I don't see how we can keep him. Somebody must be willing to take a chance on him if we don't expect a big return for him. Again, dump him for whatever we can get. Trade him and make Vasy watch endless game tape of Bishop's puck handling and give him a crash course in puck handling. Bishop really has an edge there and it would be great if Vasy could improve in that area somehow.

I wouldn't trade Johnson or Palat.

Garrison is declining, but still has value as a 5 or 6 d-man in a mentor role to a younger D-core. Trade him.

Keep Coburn.

- GalacticStone


You'd have to buy him out.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
Ill take him. What you want in return? lol
- jmdodgeser4

Konecny or Rubtsov and a 1st.
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jan 26 @ 3:30 PM ET
They'll have a couple nice players exposed. Vegas will be picking Drouin or Namestnikov
- Streit2ThePoint



Drouin isn't getting exposed
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 26 @ 3:45 PM ET
Konecny or Rubtsov and a 1st.
- Feds91Stammer


A little steep on the konecky ask. other deal would intrigue me except the 1st rounder.
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jan 26 @ 3:45 PM ET
Holy poop this thread was a dumpster fire. I made it to page 7 and gave up.

My thoughts...
The decision is TJ vs Palat and TJ gets dealt...much easier to replace with young guys like Point or now even a possibility with Peca that he can be a #2 center.

Flip will be dealt

Drouin will be back

Obviously Bish is moved and add a move or 2 on defense with Garrison and possibly a Sustr moving.

Reality is unless this team makes a run to squeak into playoffs I would expect a few deadline deals for some of our vets including Bishop, Garrison, Flip, and Boyle
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:01 PM ET
Holy poop this thread was a dumpster fire. I made it to page 7 and gave up.

My thoughts...
The decision is TJ vs Palat and TJ gets dealt...much easier to replace with young guys like Point or now even a possibility with Peca that he can be a #2 center.

Flip will be dealt

Drouin will be back

Obviously Bish is moved and add a move or 2 on defense with Garrison and possibly a Sustr moving.

Reality is unless this team makes a run to squeak into playoffs I would expect a few deadline deals for some of our vets including Bishop, Garrison, Flip, and Boyle

- uf1910


Keep reading. Feds has already said many times people won't give up an asset for a rental. He has been asked a few times too about Bishop being traded and has ignored so basically you can count on Bish being here all year

Question is going to be, who do we protect? Namestnikov, Killorn? Obviously Stammer, Hedman, Callahan and Flip as of now have to be protected. Vasey seems like the goalie we protect. Then Stralman and some forwards. Who does Vegas take??

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:11 PM ET
A little steep on the konecky ask. other deal would intrigue me except the 1st rounder.
- jmdodgeser4

What you want Johnson for free?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
Keep reading. Feds has already said many times people won't give up an asset for a rental. He has been asked a few times too about Bishop being traded and has ignored so basically you can count on Bish being here all year

Question is going to be, who do we protect? Namestnikov, Killorn? Obviously Stammer, Hedman, Callahan and Flip as of now have to be protected. Vasey seems like the goalie we protect. Then Stralman and some forwards. Who does Vegas take??

- Kucherovski

Buddy you are so busy being a (frank)ing idiot you think I said nobody would trade for bishop. Stop making poop up.
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:25 PM ET
Buddy you are so busy being a (frank)ing idiot you think I said nobody would trade for bishop. Stop making poop up.
- Feds91Stammer


You didn't specifically but ignored many times when you were asked where he may go.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:28 PM ET
You didn't specifically but ignored many times when you were asked where he may go.
- Kucherovski

Figure it out on your own.
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

Jan 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
Figure it out on your own.
- Feds91Stammer


Why when you know everything I can just ask you and not bother figuring things out and being wrong.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jan 26 @ 5:21 PM ET
hahahaha
- j.boyd919


Robidas Island
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jan 26 @ 5:25 PM ET
Worked for the Lightning for like 5 years, so I'm pretty knowledgable about the team. I like some guys on the team and they're usually fun to watch. I like to talk hockey too.
- j.boyd919


Nice.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 26 @ 6:01 PM ET
Nice.
- Leafsandbolts


Yeah it was cool to get a gig right outta college in a sport that I like but my life revolving around the NHL schedule made for an awful work to life balance.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jan 26 @ 7:21 PM ET
Nesterov traded to Habs for Jonathan Racine and a 6th round draft pick
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