You guys are insane if you think a MAF for Shattenkirk is even a possibility. How much contract are you going to eat? Zero chance blues move forward with 10 million per year locked up in goalies.

Blues issues are more than just Goalie. Whole group not playing team D. Shatty in particular is much less physical. Maybe making sure doesn't get hurt, which I understand.

You guys are insane if you think a MAF for Shattenkirk is even a possibility. How much contract are you going to eat? Zero chance blues move forward with 10 million per year locked up in goalies.

Blues issues are more than just Goalie. Whole group not playing team D. Shatty in particular is much less physical. Maybe making sure doesn't get hurt, which I understand.
- Gerk

Great, he'll fit right in and I dont mean that as insult to the Pens D but he's exactly what will thrive in their system. Instead of putting himself out of position with checks he'll be using a smart stick and getting pucks to forwards swiftly and precise. He really would be a lovely piece to acquire.

Do I think it will happen? No, I dont.

You guys are insane if you think a MAF for Shattenkirk is even a possibility. How much contract are you going to eat? Zero chance blues move forward with 10 million per year locked up in goalies.

Blues issues are more than just Goalie. Whole group not playing team D. Shatty in particular is much less physical. Maybe making sure doesn't get hurt, which I understand.
- Gerk

That was actually in the blog...

What if hypothetically the Blues did acquire MAF and decided to protect him and not Allen....they wouldnt have a 10 million dollar goalie problem then...

EDIT: assuming Vegas would take Allen. I think they'd seriously consider it.

What if hypothetically the Blues did acquire MAF and decided to protect him and not Allen....they wouldnt have a 10 million dollar goalie problem then...
- MattStrat

Just because you don't protect Allen doesn't mean Vegas selects him

Just because you don't protect Allen doesn't mean Vegas selects him
- Gerk

Yeah, see my edit...

Green ($1.5m) retained for DP, Sprong, and a 2017 2nd.
- Feds91Stammer

I realize Sprong is returning from injury but he isn't even a ppg player in the Q right now.

I realize Sprong is returning from injury but he isn't even a ppg player in the Q right now.
- Thorny87

I know, 9 points in 8 games is actually better than a PPG.

I know, 9 points in 8 games is actually better than a PPG.
- j.boyd919

Haha. Woops mis-read that. Still nothing amazing about that total

Haha. Woops mis-read that. Still nothing amazing about that total
- Thorny87

well he hasn't played hockey in like 5 months. ofc he is gonna be rusty

Haha. Woops mis-read that. Still nothing amazing about that total
- Thorny87

hahaaha

well he hasn't played hockey in like 5 months. ofc he is gonna be rusty
- martox

I know, but his career totals in that league aren't mind blowing.

I know, but his career totals in that league aren't mind blowing.
- Thorny87

ye I know. you know that guy that went 3rd overall? he has about the same pts/game as sprong.

You guys are insane if you think a MAF for Shattenkirk is even a possibility. How much contract are you going to eat? Zero chance blues move forward with 10 million per year locked up in goalies.

Blues issues are more than just Goalie. Whole group not playing team D. Shatty in particular is much less physical. Maybe making sure doesn't get hurt, which I understand.
- Gerk

Well if your current goalie blows then you will be spending 10 at the position for the foreseeable future no matter what you do. Unless you find a murray or play a scrub for 1 per year at the position. sunk cost fallacy.

fleury obviously isn't worth a shat rental.

If we ate $2/year on fleury it would get interesting though. 3.75/year on fluery would be a really good deal and sold a chunk of your too much money at the goalie position problem. (buy out allen and overall figure fine).

FWIW Pens management is considering retaining to boost the Fleury return. He's a pretty good asset at 4 per year. At 5.75 per year that isn't the case.

ye I know. you know that guy that went 3rd overall? he has about the same pts/game as sprong.
- martox

Your point being?

You guys are insane if you think a MAF for Shattenkirk is even a possibility. How much contract are you going to eat? Zero chance blues move forward with 10 million per year locked up in goalies.

Blues issues are more than just Goalie. Whole group not playing team D. Shatty in particular is much less physical. Maybe making sure doesn't get hurt, which I understand.
- Gerk

From what I've read, everybody agrees MAF won't get Shatty. Including RW. You guys need to get away from that fat POS coach. Start there first.

From what I've read, everybody agrees MAF won't get Shatty. Including RW. You guys need to get away from that fat POS coach. Start there first.
- madmike71

The Nhl version of Jeff Fisher?

Your point being?
- Thorny87

nah there is no point. max talbot and pascal had higher pts/game

Point is Green is on par with Shattenkirk and has another year on his deal so it is a safer trade.
- Feds91Stammer

Green sucks and he's always injured no thanks.

Me neither, honestly. Shattenkirk just isn't realistic. Unless he gets a raging hard on over the prospect of living in Pittsburgh next year, he's gonna command ~7 mil from a contender or 8 mil from a poop team as the first 1D to hit the open market in lord knows how long. Using Subban as the market setter here, since he all but hit the open market and got 9 mil, but he's also a top 5 defenseman in the league, which Shattenkirk is not. We can't make 7 mil on the blue line work, unless Dumo somehow only gets less than 3 mil for like four years.
- Victoro311

Subban is not top 5 except on the overrated list.

Green sucks and he's always injured no thanks.
- Dcoms

Green sucks and he's always injured no thanks.
- Dcoms

He played 70+ games the last 3 seasons.. and put up 35+ points in each of them.. Might want to fact check before post.

He played 70+ games the last 3 seasons.. and put up 35+ points in each of them.. Might want to fact check before post.
- j.boyd919

And the whole hero chart thing I posted on page 1

Have you guys worked out the trade details and sent it to the league yet?