Use Raffl
- SuperSchennBros

I am fine with Raffl on the PP. He has registered basically no PP time. However, Cousins is 8th on the team in PPP/60. I don't know man. Like I said, I would be cool with Raffl getting more PP time, it just doesn't seem to be too big of an issue

when is the last time you watched him play exactly?
- YuenglingJagr

When he was last an NHL player quite some time ago...and bypassed for a callup in lieu of Leier.

Now try to find any glowing media about him lighting it up.

When he was last an NHL player quite some time ago...and bypassed for a callup in lieu of Leier.

Now try to find any glowing media about him lighting it up.
- Konalover

4 days ago:

http://www.philly.com/phi...hantoms__are_soaring.html

"One of the things we've talked to Scott about is being more of a shutdown guy, working on his defensive part of the game, killing penalties, and being the guy who takes the big faceoffs," Gordon said. "Just giving him a role that, ultimately, if things work out, he has that responsibility when he goes back to the NHL."

"In talking to Ron," Gordon added, referring to Ron Hextall, the Flyers' general manager, "that's the role he wanted him slotted into and he's done well. He's strong and he can play that role."

Again, they didn't put him into a role where he's expected to "light it up." He's being put in a role where he can stop the opposition's top players from scoring and sacrificing his offensive game (still has 18 pts in 26 games), playing on the PK instead of PP, and taking d-zone faceoffs. That's what the Flyers have asked him to do and, according to both Hextall and Gordon, he's done well and shown he can do it.

Not saying he'd still be a first rounder if a redraft was held, but he's not this terrible player you're making him out to be, either.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/paul-holmgren-nhl-my-brother-dave/
- PhillySportsGuy

Heartbreaking, we all need to take a moment and think about what's really important in our lives

4 days ago:

http://www.philly.com/phi...hantoms__are_soaring.html

"One of the things we've talked to Scott about is being more of a shutdown guy, working on his defensive part of the game, killing penalties, and being the guy who takes the big faceoffs," Gordon said. "Just giving him a role that, ultimately, if things work out, he has that responsibility when he goes back to the NHL."

"In talking to Ron," Gordon added, referring to Ron Hextall, the Flyers' general manager, "that's the role he wanted him slotted into and he's done well. He's strong and he can play that role."

Again, they didn't put him into a role where he's expected to "light it up." He's being put in a role where he can stop the opposition's top players from scoring and sacrificing his offensive game (still has 18 pts in 26 games), playing on the PK instead of PP, and taking d-zone faceoffs. That's what the Flyers have asked him to do and, according to both Hextall and Gordon, he's done well and shown he can do it.

Not saying he'd still be a first rounder if a redraft was held, but he's not this terrible player you're making him out to be, either.
- jmatchett383

Thanks for the read.
Let's get him in a package now for an NHL player while his shutdown ability in the A is this stellar!

Thanks for the read.
Let's get him in a package now for an NHL player while his shutdown ability in the A is this stellar!
- Konalover

Same thing with that bust Sam Morin, too, right? He's not putting up the points like TJ Brennan and Wiol O'Neill, even though they're getting PP time and o-zone starts while he's been given heavy PK duties and is playing match-ups against the other team's top lines. For that matter, Sanheim is behind them in scoring too, let's ship them all out while we still can based solely on their numbers and lack of NHL call-ups this year.

He's being groomed for a certain NHL role by being given a less-than-glamorous role in the AHL, while still producing at a steady clip, and both his coach and the GM are happy with his progress. I don't know what you expect of him.

4 days ago:

http://www.philly.com/phi...hantoms__are_soaring.html

"One of the things we've talked to Scott about is being more of a shutdown guy, working on his defensive part of the game, killing penalties, and being the guy who takes the big faceoffs," Gordon said. "Just giving him a role that, ultimately, if things work out, he has that responsibility when he goes back to the NHL."

"In talking to Ron," Gordon added, referring to Ron Hextall, the Flyers' general manager, "that's the role he wanted him slotted into and he's done well. He's strong and he can play that role."

Again, they didn't put him into a role where he's expected to "light it up." He's being put in a role where he can stop the opposition's top players from scoring and sacrificing his offensive game (still has 18 pts in 26 games), playing on the PK instead of PP, and taking d-zone faceoffs. That's what the Flyers have asked him to do and, according to both Hextall and Gordon, he's done well and shown he can do it.

Not saying he'd still be a first rounder if a redraft was held, but he's not this terrible player you're making him out to be, either.
- jmatchett383

Many keep female doging about Vandevelde and Bellemare, and how we need a better 4th line. Laughton is a candidate to possibly help upgrade that area, and provide more offensive punch. Laughton as a 4th liner might be a disappointment for a 1st round pick but it's better than having him not in the NHL at all. Washington plays Tom Wilson on the 4th line.

Many keep female doging about Vandevelde and Bellemare, and how we need a better 4th line. Laughton is a candidate to possibly help upgrade that area, and provide more offensive punch. Laughton as a 4th liner might be a disappointment for a 1st round pick but it's better than having him not in the NHL at all. Washington plays Tom Wilson on the 4th line.
- MJL

I think he'd be a good fit there, for the time being, and see if he can work his way up.

I'm just sad that Sam Morin, one of our top defensive prospects, is not producing offensively at a high clip in the AHL. No matter how he's deployed, he should be dominating against these AHL scrubs. I say we cut ties with him now while he has any value left.
- jmatchett383

All he does is fight anyway, so no big loss

All he does is fight anyway, so no big loss
- Scoob

He also cross checks people.

Many keep female doging about Vandevelde and Bellemare, and how we need a better 4th line. Laughton is a candidate to possibly help upgrade that area, and provide more offensive punch. Laughton as a 4th liner might be a disappointment for a 1st round pick but it's better than having him not in the NHL at all. Washington plays Tom Wilson on the 4th line.
- MJL

I would be completely fine with a 4th line with Laughton as a center. Look at the old Devils line of Pandolfo - Madden - Brylin. They would player a strong 2 way game but also chip in timely offense.

If that is what our 4th line does i'll be happy.

4 days ago:

http://www.philly.com/phi...hantoms__are_soaring.html

"One of the things we've talked to Scott about is being more of a shutdown guy, working on his defensive part of the game, killing penalties, and being the guy who takes the big faceoffs," Gordon said. "Just giving him a role that, ultimately, if things work out, he has that responsibility when he goes back to the NHL."

"In talking to Ron," Gordon added, referring to Ron Hextall, the Flyers' general manager, "that's the role he wanted him slotted into and he's done well. He's strong and he can play that role."

Again, they didn't put him into a role where he's expected to "light it up." He's being put in a role where he can stop the opposition's top players from scoring and sacrificing his offensive game (still has 18 pts in 26 games), playing on the PK instead of PP, and taking d-zone faceoffs. That's what the Flyers have asked him to do and, according to both Hextall and Gordon, he's done well and shown he can do it.

Not saying he'd still be a first rounder if a redraft was held, but he's not this terrible player you're making him out to be, either.
- jmatchett383

thanks I couldn't recall where I had read that about his roll.

Okay a few things we need to get taken care of:

Has everyone seen the glove save Carey Price made on Ristolianen?
https://www.nhl.com/video...ve/t-277350912/c-48624803

Has everyone seen the glove save Robin Lehner made minutes later?
https://www.nhl.com/video...ve/t-277350912/c-48625503

thanks I couldn't recall where I had read that about his roll.
- nastyflyergirl

I'd prefer he score a bit more personally, but if they're asking him to do a role and are happy with how he's doing it, I can't really be too upset.

Okay a few things we need to get taken care of:

Has everyone seen the glove save Carey Price made on Ristolianen?

Has everyone seen the glove save Robin Lehner made minutes later?
- YuenglingJagr

Not till now (heard about them). Damn, that Price one was crazy. Lehner got a bit lucky, still outstanding.

Price goes and makes that save, then gets beat on a bad angle shot by Bogo...

Not till now (heard about them). Damn, that Price one was crazy. Lehner got a bit lucky, still outstanding.

Price goes and makes that save, then gets beat on a bad angle shot by Bogo...
- jmatchett383

I think Lehner's was better.

I am fine with Raffl on the PP. He has registered basically no PP time. However, Cousins is 8th on the team in PPP/60. I don't know man. Like I said, I would be cool with Raffl getting more PP time, it just doesn't seem to be too big of an issue
- YuenglingJagr

Underdog as he may be, I've always liked Cousins. I think his skating is noticeably better than last year even. He's worked hard on it. It's no strength, but it's far from a weakness. Sometimes when you see him get a breakaway or something, it will even surprise you. And he's always been pretty shifty in tight.

He draws a metric ton of penalties without taking them himself....he's got a ton of sandpaper and is excellent along the wall or in the cycle game even with contact for a small player....he's good at transitioning play. 2 seasons of being a solid p/60 player and one of the better ones on the team is not a fluke IMO. You're seeing it now with Coots, or even in OT last night. With the new PP2 set-up, with Coots in front and Provorov/Konecny sort of both combining to be the Giroux role, Cousins actually is on the right now, where a lefty should be, and he even looks better there.

He really does have crafty skill to him. He's quite smart, and there's just something that makes me think he'll carve out a decent NHL career, even if it's not here necessarily.

So Mason was really good last night, Giroux scored the game winner and Ghost set it up. Rough night for 2real and PLind

So Mason was really good last night, Giroux scored the game winner and Ghost set it up. Rough night for 2real and PLind
- PhillySportsGuy

I was thinking we might be watching the news...........Thank God they didn't do anything crazy, or at least newsworthy.....

So Mason was really good last night, Giroux scored the game winner and Ghost set it up. Rough night for 2real and PLind
- PhillySportsGuy

I feel like they play each other in NHL17 and both choose the Flyers. Then they see how many goals they can score on the other's CPU Mason. Then they orgasm together or something.

I think Lehner's was better.
- Scoob

I've been having that discussion with my friend. I think Lehner's was a more amazing save, if you will. However, I think he got luckier.

Underdog as he may be, I've always liked Cousins. I think his skating is noticeably better than last year even. He's worked hard on it. It's no strength, but it's far from a weakness. Sometimes when you see him get a breakaway or something, it will even surprise you. And he's always been pretty shifty in tight. He draws a metric ton of penalties without taking them himself....he's got a ton of sandpaper and is excellent along the wall or in the cycle game even with contact for a small player....he's good at transitioning play. 2 seasons of being a solid p/60 player and one of the better ones on the team is not a fluke IMO. You're seeing it now with Coots, or even in OT last night. With the new PP2 set-up, with Coots in front and Provorov/Konecny sort of both combining to be the Giroux role, Cousins actually is on the right now, where a lefty should be, and he even looks better there.

He really does have crafty skill to him. He's quite smart, and there's just something that makes me think he'll carve out a decent NHL career, even if it's not here necessarily.
- Mononoke

I havent been a big fan of Cousins but ive liked what ive seen from him lately. I still think his long term future in the NHL is still in doubt. I think his best chance is as a winger rather than a center.

So Mason was really good last night, Giroux scored the game winner and Ghost set it up. Rough night for 2real and PLind
- PhillySportsGuy

speaking of, where are they today?

I've been having that discussion with my friend. I think Lehner's was a more amazing save, if you will. However, I think he got luckier.
- YuenglingJagr

Luck isn't random. You make your own luck.

Luck isn't random. You make your own luck.
- Scoob

Yes, Lehner, by being super aggressive on Radulov, forced himself to get pretty lucky on Galchenyuk lol.