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rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:00 PM ET
And refusing to acknowledge the valid concerns of others is one reason (of many) that there is such divide and unrest in the US today.

I honestly fail to see how an attempt to be inclusive is deemed to be a bad thing?

- lumlums

quick question for you. Do you think Obama divided this nation at all in anyway?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:01 PM ET
Delusional.
- lumlums

you made my day with that response.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
you made my day with that response.
- rinaldo


Glad to hear it! At least one positive thing came out of reading pages of what seems to be Fox News summarised by a 10 year old
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
quick question for you. Do you think Obama divided this nation at all in anyway?
- rinaldo


I do, but less with his actions than the resonses to it. This country exists mainly in 2 partisan echochambers, and I don't think that there's a single person at the moment who could unify it.
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

Jan 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
How are the new blades....were you still hurting the 2nd/3rd time on the ice?
- Garnie


Feet still hurt when I skate, but once i got wider skates its' way better. It has been so warm I've been staying off it. I might go out tonight when i get off work though.
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

Jan 23 @ 12:47 PM ET
Being the best at one thing doesn't make you one of the best teams in the NHL. There are at least five teams I'd put ahead of STL as being some of the best teams in the NHL.

Boston's problem isn't just goaltending; it's scoring. They're 24th in the NHL in scoring. I've said this a hundred times, but I don't care how good you appear it be; if you're not scoring more goals than you're letting in, it's not a recipe for success.

This is not an attack, but I think you place too much importance on advanced metrics. I agree they're important, but IMO to be considered one of the best teams in the NHL you have to have a combination of everything while not having to be the best at one particular thing.

STL is a top possession team, great for them. They're not scoring more goals than they're letting in and they don't have goaltending; that doesn't make you one of the best teams in the NHL. Goaltending SHOULD be part of the equation when calling a team one of the best in the NHL; it's shouldn't be the ancillary factor.

Wasn't LA the best possession team in hockey last two years? Didn't do them much good and they have SUPERIOR goaltending.

If your'e going to call a team one of the best teams in the NHL they better have an element of everything; STL does not.

MIN, CBJ, PIT, WSH, NYR, MTL, SJ, CHI = some of the best teams in the NHL. STL may be better than most of them in the possession world, but it's doing them no good. They are not on the level of the aforementioned teams. Those other teams have much more balance to their lineup.

EDIT: STL is actually the 5th best possession team in hockey if you were going by CF% 5v5. You know who's ahead of them in that metric? Carolina. Is Carolina one of the best teams in hockey?

- Rinosaur



I think Carolina is one of the better teams, yes. But I'm not looking at just the Corsi. I looked at all the stats and I think over time, the Blues will catch the Hawks and they're a better team right now.

Yes, the goalie is a part of the team, and yes you have to score, but I believe that a lot of that is luck and that, given their stats, it's bound to turn around.

The whole point - for me at least - in looking at stats is to identify which teams have records that are too good and which ones look like they should be better -its extremely helpful for hockey pools and such.
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

Jan 23 @ 12:56 PM ET
I do, but less with his actions than the resonses to it. This country exists mainly in 2 partisan echochambers, and I don't think that there's a single person at the moment who could unify it.
- lumlums


What "divided the country" (which by the way is an incredibly silly term) was a group of people in the right-wing media and the right-wing congress/senate who decided they would say and do the opposite of whatever Obama said and did.

That is why most people support the Affordable Care Act, but despise Obama Care. I consider what they did treason, only that's not the word for it because they weren't hurting their country on purpose by betraying it to another country. They were however betraying their duties as patriots and representatives of the people.

There is nothing wrong with a divided country. Better that we be divided intellectually than racially like before. Disagreement is healthy and divisiveness is an accusation that can literally be leveled at anyone seeking change - so it's essentially meaningless politically correct language. i.e It is pure propaganda.

It is OK to disagree with Obama, but to just obstruct and act like five year olds? I find that reprehensible.

Keep in mind: Obama's greatest achievment was an assassination, he deportered more people then ever, kept Guitonamo open, didn't end the war on drugs, he saved the economy with a bailout and was pretty open to c corporations being in control. His signature legislation is Romney Care.

Except for being pro-environment and anit-abortion (one a ridiculous position and the other a religious position) he is essentially the best Republican President since Lincoln.

How we live in a world where Obama is the Democrat is insane to me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 23 @ 12:59 PM ET
The tie breaker puts the Caps on top.
- james_tanner1


http://www.espn.com/nhl/n...tory?page=nhl/tiebreakers

1. The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage).

2. The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.


They are tied in both of these.

3. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs.

The Blue Jackets are 2-1-1 vs. Washington this year, giving them 4 points to Washington's 3.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
I do, but less with his actions than the resonses to it. This country exists mainly in 2 partisan echochambers, and I don't think that there's a single person at the moment who could unify it.
- lumlums


Bruce Campbell, maybe?

I agree that an "outsider" isn't a horrible choice because the 2-party system is broken. I'm just not a fan of the particular "outsider" that got elected.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 23 @ 1:12 PM ET
Bruce Campbell, maybe?

I agree that an "outsider" isn't a horrible choice because the 2-party system is broken. I'm just not a fan of the particular "outsider" that got elected.

- jmatchett383



Yeah, if the "outsider" was somebody like Warren Buffet (or better yet, a younger Warren Buffet ) I'd jump on board in an instant.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jan 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
Guys like us are basically sitting back waiting for everyone else to realize what is going on


This is the kind of arrogance we get from you every day. It's very off-putting
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

Jan 23 @ 4:27 PM ET
This is the kind of arrogance we get from you every day. It's very off-putting
- BestRapperAlive



I hope that it is. I am sick of pretending that everyone's opinion is equal.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 23 @ 7:33 PM ET
Sorry James. The spirit is right (and the vitriolic rhetoric the whole "birther" nonsense started), but the details aren't.

Chester Alan Arthur (His opponents claimed he was born in Canada which would make him ineligible to be President through a conflict of citizenship)

Charles Evans Hughes (This was before the 14th amendment came about, but it was argued that because his parents were born in Great Britain he wasn't American enough to be President)

Barry Goldwater (Born in Arizona before it was a state and so he technically had similar citizenship issues that people from Samoa have to this day)


Even John McCain ran into issues with failed lawsuits over the fact that he was born in the Panama Canal region when his parents were stationed there.

- AdamFrench


Natural born citizen is a female dog of a phrase. Way open to interpretation. But you also have to remember the circumstances when it was written, the US was a fraction of a size then than it is now, and the founders envisaged expansion with territories before formal inclusion in the Union. I mean, hell, Rhode Island didn't even ratify the Constitution for 2, 2 and a half years(5/1790) after most of the other states(12/1787-6/1788). Does it mean that as long as you're born an American citizen i.e. born to an American mother regardless of where in the world you are born you're good? Or does it mean born within the confines of the United States regardless of the citizenship status of your mother? And do embassies count? They're technically US soil. How about military bases? While a little more of a gray area are essentially US soil. And the Canal Zone where McCain was born was under US control at the time. Sort of.

Ted Cruz had some of the problem too, because he was born in Canada, but to nowhere near the extent Obama was. It's not the act, anything goes in a campaign. It's the fact that it was carried on for years.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jan 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
Natural born citizen is a female dog of a phrase. Way open to interpretation. But you also have to remember the circumstances when it was written, the US was a fraction of a size then than it is now, and the founders envisaged expansion with territories before formal inclusion in the Union. I mean, hell, Rhode Island didn't even ratify the Constitution for 2, 2 and a half years(5/1790) after most of the other states(12/1787-6/1788). Does it mean that as long as you're born an American citizen i.e. born to an American mother regardless of where in the world you are born you're good? Or does it mean born within the confines of the United States regardless of the citizenship status of your mother? And do embassies count? They're technically US soil. How about military bases? While a little more of a gray area are essentially US soil. And the Canal Zone where McCain was born was under US control at the time. Sort of.

Ted Cruz had some of the problem too, because he was born in Canada, but to nowhere near the extent Obama was. It's not the act, anything goes in a campaign. It's the fact that it was carried on for years.

- Wetbandit1


And the fact that even when proof was presented it was not accepted. There is no doubt the birther movement is one of the most disgusting, racially motivated attempts to discredit a black man in the history of the United States. Think about that for two seconds. It's disgusting.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jan 31 @ 6:42 PM ET
Love watching you and all the other lefties go off the deep end with the new President. Keep it up. Unhinged. Psychotic. Etc. It'll only seem like an eternity instead of 8 years. Tit for tat. I dealt with that Marxist the last 8 years. Now its your turn. Enjoy. Make sure your side keeps up the name-calling. That goes the longest way.
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