There has never been anyone who ran for President who lied like he did. It is basically Kim Jung Ill and Vladimir Putin levels of lying - 99% approval ratings, yuge inaugurations etc.

Guys like us are basically sitting back waiting for everyone else to realize what is going on. Fortunately, as the protests this weekend showed, the anti-Trump movement is one of the the biggest movements in the history of the country.

100% of the time a movement of this size gets what it wants. So unless Trump plans on a Tiananmen Square style escalation, he isn't going to last long.
- james_tanner1

8 years book it playa

There has never been anyone who ran for President who lied like he did. It is basically Kim Jung Ill and Vladimir Putin levels of lying - 99% approval ratings, yuge inaugurations etc.

Guys like us are basically sitting back waiting for everyone else to realize what is going on. Fortunately, as the protests this weekend showed, the anti-Trump movement is one of the the biggest movements in the history of the country.

100% of the time a movement of this size gets what it wants. So unless Trump plans on a Tiananmen Square style escalation, he isn't going to last long.
- james_tanner1

The downside is that there's also an (almost?) equally large diehard support of him - they're not organised in rallies or marching in cities (many of them do not live in cities), but they exist and they're not quiet either. Now, I believe that there are many reasons for this (which have been previously extolled, so I'm not going to do it again) are due to the rhetoric of Trump and the media coverage of him, but we can't look and say "Wow, 3-4m people Marched so everybody hates Trump!) without ackowledging that there is another group of people who have their own concerns which they believe that Trump will address.

That said, I firmly believe (like you) that Trump in charge is a no-win situation for the 99%, and that those from impoverished areas will learn in due time that they have been duped by the bluster, bravado and bullpoop, much like we Leafs fans were with Burke (there, it's still a hockey comment! )

They're tied for 1st....so technically youre just being a douche?
- Garnie

Actually, they're not tied for first, because there are ways to break the tie, which goes to Columbus, who actually has a 2-1-1 record against Washington this year.

I have listened to enough to say it isn't racist. so there you go.
- rinaldo

So now you're delegitimizing the views of those that do find it racist?

The downside is that there's also an (almost?) equally large diehard support of him - they're not organised in rallies or marching in cities (many of them do not live in cities), but they exist and they're not quiet either. Now, I believe that there are many reasons for this (which have been previously extolled, so I'm not going to do it again) are due to the rhetoric of Trump and the media coverage of him, but we can't look and say "Wow, 3-4m people Marched so everybody hates Trump!) without ackowledging that there is another group of people who have their own concerns which they believe that Trump will address.

That said, I firmly believe (like you) that Trump in charge is a no-win situation for the 99%, and that those from impoverished areas will learn in due time that they have been duped by the bluster, bravado and bullpoop, much like we Leafs fans were with Burke (there, it's still a hockey comment! )
- lumlums

I agree 100%. Also, until he does something against the law that would allow a (currently) Republican-run Congress to impeach him, he will be in power no matter how many people take off of work to stand in the street. Heck, Bill Clinton blatantly lied under oath, was found to be a horrible womanizer, and was no impeached. He'd have to do something drastically, country-shattering illegal to be removed from power.

Actually, they're not tied for first, because there are ways to break the tie, which goes to Columbus, who actually has a 2-1-1 record against Washington this year.
- jmatchett383

Weird NHL.com has Caps in 1st

james do you still think gormley and rundblad are top 4 nhl dman?

The downside is that there's also an (almost?) equally large diehard support of him - they're not organised in rallies or marching in cities (many of them do not live in cities), but they exist and they're not quiet either. Now, I believe that there are many reasons for this (which have been previously extolled, so I'm not going to do it again) are due to the rhetoric of Trump and the media coverage of him, but we can't look and say "Wow, 3-4m people Marched so everybody hates Trump!) without ackowledging that there is another group of people who have their own concerns which they believe that Trump will address.

That said, I firmly believe (like you) that Trump in charge is a no-win situation for the 99%, and that those from impoverished areas will learn in due time that they have been duped by the bluster, bravado and bullpoop, much like we Leafs fans were with Burke (there, it's still a hockey comment! )
- lumlums

so then like pretty much every politician before him?

So now you're delegitimizing the views of those that do find it racist?


- lumlums

As we've discussed, whether or not people find it racist, it does not make the offender racist. I believe, however, that Trump is generally a racist, sexist, ethnocentric, and a mentalist based on some of his views. But that's just how I perceive them.

Weird NHL.com has Caps in 1st
- Garnie

Yes they do, they in the season ended today, based on the tiebreak, Columbus would get the #1 seed.

And thanks for the personal attack, but spice it up next time, please.

so then like pretty much every politician before him?
- rinaldo

Honestly, I think that he'll be much worse. He's already made it slightly more difficult to by a house for people of lower income, and the threat to remove healthcare while not yet having a replacement plan in place is problematic (Healthcare is, for me, the single biggest area where the US needs to stop proclaiming that it's the "greatest country in the world" and look at other countries that provide healthcare for all, and do so for significantly less per capita government spending than the US).

Beyond that, he has described multiple times his adherence to policies to enforce trickle down economics, and there have yet to be a single instance to my knowledge (though I'm admittedly not an economist) where this has benefitted those of lower income proportionally to how much that it benefits those with the highest incomes.

The other issue is that even if he does indeed bring back millions of manufacturing jobs, there will then be a proportional increase in price of basic goods and materials commensurate with the rise in cost of production, and therefore no guarantee that people will actually be better off overall than they are now. Now, if he was able to do so while ensuring a competitive healthcare plan and enforcing an appropriate minimum wage with tax benefits ONLY to corporations that focus on employing Americans, then he might - MIGHT - stand a chance to succeed. But what do I know, I'm just a lowly immigrant science nerd...

As we've discussed, whether or not people find it racist, it does not make the offender racist. I believe, however, that Trump is generally a racist, sexist, ethnocentric, and a mentalist based on some of his views. But that's just how I perceive them.
- jmatchett383

For sure.

So the only way to determine the best team is to use the previous 10 games? Silly me, I thought that standings and stats were inclusive of the entire season. And this season, to date, Columbus has been the best team in the league.
- jmatchett383

The tie breaker puts the Caps on top.

Honestly, I think that he'll be much worse. He's already made it slightly more difficult to by a house for people of lower income, and the threat to remove healthcare while not yet having a replacement plan in place is problematic (Healthcare is, for me, the single biggest area where the US needs to stop proclaiming that it's the "greatest country in the world" and look at other countries that provide healthcare for all, and do so for significantly less per capita government spending than the US).

Beyond that, he has described multiple times his adherence to policies to enforce trickle down economics, and there have yet to be a single instance to my knowledge (though I'm admittedly not an economist) where this has benefitted those of lower income proportionally to how much that it benefits those with the highest incomes.

The other issue is that even if he does indeed bring back millions of manufacturing jobs, there will then be a proportional increase in price of basic goods and materials commensurate with the rise in cost of production, aand therefore no guarantee that people will actually be better off overall than they are now. Now, if he was able to do so while ensuring a competitive healthcare plan and enforcing an appropriate minimum wage with tax benefits ONLY to corporations that focus on employing Americans, then he might - MIGHT - stand a chance to succeed. But what do I know, I'm just a lowly immigrant science nerd...
- lumlums

he is likely full of crap like everyone else before him. I know that and wouldn't be foolish to believe otherwise.

I welcome a change as the lifers were not going to do crap either way so maybe just maybe he does something's the lifers wouldn't have. Plus the pure entertainment will be worth it to shake things up.

I am optimistic he will do more good than bad.

The tie breaker puts the Caps on top.
- james_tanner1

james do you still think gormley and rundblad are top 4 nhl dman?

So the only way to determine the best team is to use the previous 10 games? Silly me, I thought that standings and stats were inclusive of the entire season. And this season, to date, Columbus has been the best team in the league.
- jmatchett383

They have the same amount of points, 68. Does Columbus really have a better record? WSH is listed as no. 1 at 31-9-6 while CBJ is listed at no. 2 at 32-10-4 via NHL.com

The downside is that there's also an (almost?) equally large diehard support of him - they're not organised in rallies or marching in cities (many of them do not live in cities), but they exist and they're not quiet either. Now, I believe that there are many reasons for this (which have been previously extolled, so I'm not going to do it again) are due to the rhetoric of Trump and the media coverage of him, but we can't look and say "Wow, 3-4m people Marched so everybody hates Trump!) without ackowledging that there is another group of people who have their own concerns which they believe that Trump will address.

That said, I firmly believe (like you) that Trump in charge is a no-win situation for the 99%, and that those from impoverished areas will learn in due time that they have been duped by the bluster, bravado and bullpoop, much like we Leafs fans were with Burke (there, it's still a hockey comment! )
- lumlums

Trump was elected with 27% of the voting eligible population voting for him. His supporters are loud, but few in numbers. Most of his votes were from people who wouldn't have voted for him if they thought he'd actually win. Also, an antiquated system that doesn't recognize that social factors force all minorities to move to cities, giving white people who only know other white people a disproportionate amount of voting power.

So now you're delegitimizing the views of those that do find it racist?


- lumlums

Please ignore this alt-right crazy person. I regret answering him and won't be doing so ever again.

Yes they do, they in the season ended today, based on the tiebreak, Columbus would get the #1 seed.

And thanks for the personal attack, but spice it up next time, please.
- jmatchett383

Personal attack, oh you poor thing but I think it was more of a question...and you just answered it. If you know you're being a douche maybe it's time for a break from the keyboard.

Please ignore this alt-right crazy person. I regret answering him and won't be doing so ever again.
- james_tanner1

bleeding hearts rule. take your ball and go home to your safe space james.

Whatever trump does I hope it effects you in every way.

Please ignore this alt-right crazy person. I regret answering him and won't be doing so ever again.
- james_tanner1

How are the new blades....were you still hurting the 2nd/3rd time on the ice?

Trump was elected with 27% of the voting eligible population voting for him. His supporters are loud, but few in numbers. Most of his votes were from people who wouldn't have voted for him if they thought he'd actually win. Also, an antiquated system that doesn't recognize that social factors force all minorities to move to cities, giving white people who only know other white people a disproportionate amount of voting power.
- james_tanner1

keep up the good work. that statement is pure gold.

if Hillary won would they system still be "antiquated"?

have a blessed day james.

St. Louis is the 4th best Possession team, so I do not concede at all. They are one of the NHL's best teams, they just haven't got good goaltending or good results.

I would WAY rather have a team with good possession and bad goaltending than bad possession and good goaltending because the former is far more likely to lead to wins in the longterm.

Both St.Louis and Boston are getting bad results despite thoroughly dominating most teams they play. I wouldn't put it past either team to win the Cup.
- james_tanner1

Being the best at one thing doesn't make you one of the best teams in the NHL. There are at least five teams I'd put ahead of STL as being some of the best teams in the NHL.

Boston's problem isn't just goaltending; it's scoring. They're 24th in the NHL in scoring. I've said this a hundred times, but I don't care how good you appear it be; if you're not scoring more goals than you're letting in, it's not a recipe for success.

This is not an attack, but I think you place too much importance on advanced metrics. I agree they're important, but IMO to be considered one of the best teams in the NHL you have to have a combination of everything while not having to be the best at one particular thing.

STL is a top possession team, great for them. They're not scoring more goals than they're letting in and they don't have goaltending; that doesn't make you one of the best teams in the NHL. Goaltending SHOULD be part of the equation when calling a team one of the best in the NHL; it's shouldn't be the ancillary factor.

Wasn't LA the best possession team in hockey last two years? Didn't do them much good and they have SUPERIOR goaltending.

If your'e going to call a team one of the best teams in the NHL they better have an element of everything; STL does not.

MIN, CBJ, PIT, WSH, NYR, MTL, SJ, CHI = some of the best teams in the NHL. STL may be better than most of them in the possession world, but it's doing them no good. They are not on the level of the aforementioned teams. Those other teams have much more balance to their lineup.

EDIT: STL is actually the 5th best possession team in hockey if you were going by CF% 5v5. You know who's ahead of them in that metric? Carolina. Is Carolina one of the best teams in hockey?

bleeding hearts rule. take your ball and go home to your safe space james.

Whatever trump does I hope it effects you in every way.
- rinaldo

And refusing to acknowledge the valid concerns of others is one reason (of many) that there is such divide and unrest in the US today.

I honestly fail to see how an attempt to be inclusive is deemed to be a bad thing?

he is likely full of crap like everyone else before him. I know that and wouldn't be foolish to believe otherwise.

I welcome a change as the lifers were not going to do crap either way so maybe just maybe he does something's the lifers wouldn't have. Plus the pure entertainment will be worth it to shake things up.

I am optimistic he will do more good than bad.
- rinaldo

Delusional.