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Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 22 @ 4:49 PM ET

- TheTaoOfSemenko


During the draft I remember Friedman saying the following demands were being made of Edmonton.

Subban for Draisaitl + Nurse and a pick
Shattenkirk for Nuge + Nurse

Personally I don't care for either.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
Don't confuse patience with inaction. MacT was guilty of the latter, not the former.

If you want to make something happen, there's always chances to make it happen. The issue seemed more of him wanting to hit a home-run, rather than being willing to make several smaller deals to inch towards where you wanted to be.

- lumlums

That's not fact at all.
I'm sure he could've made any number of moves for those forwards.

At the very least we don't know what was discussed or offered.
Plus, he came in at a time when they were still building that core and it wasn't apparent they couldn't get it done. Banking on your own guys is always the prudent move in a cap/draft system. At least initially.


He moved for perron. He moved for pouliot. He moved for Ference.
Etc.


This is no personal attack. I respect your opinion. I just think Hindsight is the name of the game without context far too often.
Mact wasnt actually a bad gm. Did alot of pretty standard stuff actually. But he'll be remembered for the missteps
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 4:50 PM ET
During the draft I remember Friedman saying the following demands were being made of Edmonton.

Subban for Draisaitl + Nurse and a pick
Shattenkirk for Nuge + Nurse

Personally I don't care for either.

- Wildschwein

Jesus
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:51 PM ET
The thing you're missing is that there isn't really a 1 and 2 tandem in Edmonton. The top 4 play relatively equal minutes, because the guys they're projecting as the future top pairings are all still too young and therefore play a lot of time on pairings with Sekera and Russel. Thank God for Mclellan because previous coaches would been playing them 25+ and destroying them.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Yeah, we have similar. When we had Dion he was playing 25+ and it really didn't work.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jan 22 @ 4:52 PM ET
Xenophobe. Always assuming foreigners will do more for less.
- Mr.Bobby


Absolutely disgusting isn't it?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
(frank) you Packers. (frank) you right in your stupid asses.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
Draisaitl is pretty much indispensable at this point.

So glad we have him
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
(frank) you Packers. (frank) you right in your stupid asses.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 22 @ 4:54 PM ET
Draisaitl is pretty much indispensable at this point.

So glad we have him

- HB77

Haha loved watching that little rat Tkachuk attempt to drill him last night and he basically just bounced off of Drai. Like a flea. Guys a brick wall.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 22 @ 4:55 PM ET

- HB77

Easy to be happy when it isn't your 100 bucks lol. (frank).
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
Tell me, would you have been willing to trade Morgan Reilly for Taylor Hall?
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Possibly. I would have wanted to have another trade for a Dman set up though because for us Defensive depth is definitely an issue.

And Rielly is a better Dman than Larsson IMO (though he definitely is far from perfect)
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jan 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
They can ask whatever they want. In fact, if they don't, they're not doing their job.

Doesn't mean that that is what the trade looks like when it's signed.

- lumlums

(frank) off already with this bullpoop. It's been done to death around here and you aren't bringing any new insites, or any reasonable thinking to the conversation. Just more conjecture and a lot of running your mouth.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jan 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
During the draft I remember Friedman saying the following demands were being made of Edmonton.

Subban for Draisaitl + Nurse and a pick
Shattenkirk for Nuge + Nurse

Personally I don't care for either.

- Wildschwein


When did Shattenkirk turn into Bobby Orr?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
Haha loved watching that little rat Ferland attempt to drill him last night and he basically just bounced off of Drai. Like a flea. Guys a brick wall.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

It was tkachuk I think

Even better
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jan 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
(frank) you Packers. (frank) you right in your stupid asses.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Is this SuperBowl Sunday or something?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jan 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
It was tkachuk I think

Even better

- HB77


Confirmed... It was.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
Possibly. I would have wanted to have another trade for a Dman set up though because for us Defensive depth is definitely an issue.

And Rielly is a better Dman than Larsson IMO (though he definitely is far from perfect)

- lumlums

Thank you for helping me make my point.

I think Reilly has better offensive instincts. Larsson protects better and is a lot meaner.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
It was tkachuk I think

Even better

- HB77

Confirmed and fixed.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jan 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
Possibly. I would have wanted to have another trade for a Dman set up though because for us Defensive depth is definitely an issue.

And Rielly is a better Dman than Larsson IMO (though he definitely is far from perfect)

- lumlums


Oh oh... because he's from another country, right!?!?!?!?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
Draisaitl is pretty much indispensable at this point.

So glad we have him

- HB77


At this point, it goes without saying that he's the best forward from that draft.

In time, there's a chance that he could be the best player from it, period. And Ekblad is a (frank)ing beaut.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
Thank you for helping me make my point.

I think Reilly has better offensive instincts. Larsson protects better and is a lot meaner.

- TheTaoOfSemenko


Surprisingly so.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
Is this SuperBowl Sunday or something?
- laughs2907

Semis. AKA I lose money today. Didn't bother betting on the other game because I don't see Pitt having a hope against the Pats.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
Oh oh... because he's from another country, right!?!?!?!?
- laughs2907



It's more the simple fact of being a better player
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
Possibly. I would have wanted to have another trade for a Dman set up though because for us Defensive depth is definitely an issue.

And Rielly is a better Dman than Larsson IMO (though he definitely is far from perfect)

- lumlums

He's certainly superior in transition. And much better in the offensive zone.
Not as dependable down low or at breaking the forecheck imo. A higher ceiling no doubt tho


Also, this is just it. You're not sure about Reilly even. And he's kinda far from the echelon I hoped for hall.
Idve been no less frustrated it was hall straight up for Reilly.
We already have nurse/klefbom.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
It was tkachuk I think

Even better

- HB77


That was glorious.
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