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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:52 PM ET
Konecny and provorov i thought were fine.

Trying to find adjectives for other.

- J35Bacher


They were. Schenn had a decent game early.


Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 21 @ 9:52 PM ET
Pathetic. They should be embarrassed.
- BiggE

the NHL needs to implement a performance based salary structure
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 21 @ 9:52 PM ET
imagine if the flyers would have won the lottery and drafted a sniper like Patrick Kane...
- penguininnevada


Philly area women would have been very unsafe
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:52 PM ET
imagine if the flyers would have won the lottery and drafted a sniper like Patrick Kane...
- penguininnevada


We would have traded him for Luke Schenn.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 9:52 PM ET
The utter lack of drive and/or emotion is really starting to wear on me. For thevfiret time this season, I'm starting to hope for a coaching change. They seem rudderless and just going through the motions. The last 3 games have been an embarrassment.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 21 @ 9:52 PM ET
One goal is just a joke. Tank mode won't even help that's how much help they need. This team needs some alpha males. They play soft and have zero creativity. If Giroux is hurt he needs to sit. He has been invisible.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
I am going to say something that i didnt think i would even say this year. Maybe inserting tyrell goulbourne would be nice a couple of games. Maybe a little chaos is needed.
- J35Bacher


Dude, he's in the (frank)ing ECHL and not even playing great.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
We would have traded him for Luke Schenn.
- landros 2

well a #1 defenseman cost
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
Dude, he's in the (frank)ing ECHL and not even playing great.
- Mononoke

landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
They were. Schenn had a decent game early.


Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier

- MJL



When the big boys aren't going they suck.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
It's hard to say their shooting/save percentages are unlucky when you see shot charts like that. This doesn't even factor in the odd man rushes, which are the highest danger chances.

I'm running out of patience with Hak. The Flyers are lacking talent in some areas, but I think the cause of their problems might be more system/usage than just raw talent.

- PhillySportsGuy

I dont know. I thought his system was aggressive with d being aggressive in neutral zone and attacking. Maybe they just do lack the talent needed and guys we have liked are overrated.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
As bad as all the forwards are scoring, it can't be just the players scoring poorly or declining. It can't be. There are signs that point to this being an offensively uncreative, stifling system. "Get the puck on the wall, up to the D, screen/tip, get puck, repeat." It's not like Hak can't change things, but it's something that has existed both of his first 2 seasons. The Flyers just do not generate actual chances in the slot and stuff. You see no creative plays and passes. It's pure meat and potatoes. Boil em mash em stick em in a stew.
- Mononoke

I also find it odd that there's not a lot of dirty goals going on near the net. However, the Flyers have sucked at 5v5 for at least two coaches now. Not sure what the issue is exactly, but at this point, the team is lucky if they score 1 or 2 goals a game.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
Total perimeter team. No one gets to the net.
- MBFlyerfan


It's every game. Seriously.

They are a bit unlucky, and players haven't been playing well, and as big as I am on a lot of Hakstol's system, boy, it's a theme with getting no scoring chances and empty shots. If there is such a thing as "empty Corsi" stats, the Flyers kind of do tilt that way.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 21 @ 9:54 PM ET
Pathetic. They should be embarrassed.
- BiggE


You know what G's offense is now? Standing inside the blueline between the dmen in the offensive zone waiting to receive a 5 ft. pass from the dman once it gets rimmed around
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 21 @ 9:54 PM ET
Dude, he's in the (frank)ing ECHL and not even playing great.
- Mononoke


Bring him up anyway! Guys who hit help the team. Proven fact
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:54 PM ET
No fire and desire \,must be the lamest flyers team since the early 90s
- Landsbergfan



Yes. And basically they have no idea how to beat the devils. I knew before the game it would be an epically boring loss.

Of note, I wasn't sure read even played played tonight. Some of our top 9 forwards are routinely invisible for stretches of games. That is not good.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 21 @ 9:54 PM ET
Dude, he's in the (frank)ing ECHL and not even playing great.
- Mononoke




I know where he is. Right now the flyers a providing an echl product.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 21 @ 9:55 PM ET
Dude, he's in the (frank)ing ECHL and not even playing great.
- Mononoke

same could be said about the entire organization
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:55 PM ET
Dude, he's in the (frank)ing ECHL and not even playing great.
- Mononoke



In the immortal words of Lloyd Christmas...." so your saying there's a chance"😀
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 21 @ 9:55 PM ET
Bring him up anyway! Guys who hit help the team. Proven fact
- PhillySportsGuy

4th line aka "chaos line" - Goulbourne - Embiid - C.Kelly
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 21 @ 9:56 PM ET
Clement and Boruk RIPPING O'Haleran (sp)
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 21 @ 9:56 PM ET
same could be said about the entire organization
- penguininnevada

Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 21 @ 9:56 PM ET
4th line aka "chaos line" - Goulbourne - Embiid - C.Kelly
- feelingkettle

I would (frank)ing love to see Embiid try to ice skate
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 9:56 PM ET
I also find it odd that there's not a lot of dirty goals going on near the net. However, the Flyers have sucked at 5v5 for at least two coaches now. Not sure what the issue is exactly, but at this point, the team is lucky if they score 1 or 2 goals a game.
- feelingkettle

The issue is simple. When it comes to the forwards, they lack speed, skill, size and heart. Other than that, they're just dandy
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 21 @ 9:57 PM ET
4th line aka "chaos line" - Goulbourne - Embiid - C.Kelly
- feelingkettle


Embiid could become the best player on the team within 3 months if he took his first skating lesson tomorrow
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