What is he doing that another coach wouldn't?

This isn't a complete team yet. I think you'll see a big difference from this year to next one more talent is added.

What they are doing is not a overnight fix like they tried the year after selecting 2nd overall. this is a more thought out approach to not just be a playoff team but to be a consistent playoff contender.
- J35Bacher

I think you're willing to accept average in saying this. We made the playoffs last season, so not doing the same this season is a step back in the process. Ghost doesn't look remotely like he did last season. They could have traded Streit for anything at any point within the last year. I think keeping him has hurt what value he might have with another long term injury.

I digress.

I'm not seeing this positive development in young players such as Gostisbehere, Laughton or Cousins. Hakstol is supposed to be a development Coach. I'm sure people will jump pointing out how well Provorov and Konecny have adjusted but these are highly drafted players. I think they're getting by on their own merits.

I think you're willing to accept average in saying this. We made the playoffs last season, so not doing the same this season is a step back in the process. Ghost doesn't look remotely like he did last season. They could have traded Streit for anything at any point within the last year. I think keeping him has hurt what value he might have with another long term injury.

I digress.

I'm not seeing this positive development in young players such as Gostisbehere, Laughton or Cousins. Hakstol is supposed to be a development Coach. I'm sure people will jump pointing out how well Provorov and Konecny have adjusted but these are highly drafted players. I think they're getting by on their own merits.
- SuperSchennBros

Do you think that criticizing Hakstol for the young players that are struggling, while not giving him any credit for the young players that are doing well, is being objective and fair?

Streit was hurt last season also, and still had another year on his deal. The Flyers have not missed the playoffs yet.

Not sure if it was mentioned here but Willcox got sent to reading with Fazleev

Also...Phantoms won 5-3

Laughton, hagg, and leier scored (so did Brennan and Conner)

Not sure if it was mentioned here but Willcox got sent to reading with Fazleev

Also...Phantoms won 5-3

Laughton, hagg, and leier scored (so did Brennan and Conner)
- YuenglingJagr

Hagg and sanheim looked great, morin had the same game I've seen him play for the last year, solid but not flashy. Leier had a standout performance. Stolarz had little to no chance on the first two goals. The third goal he probably should have had.
If anyone has the chance to go to a game at the ppl center they definitely should, this was my 6th or 7th game and the arena is wonderful.

Do you think that criticizing Hakstol for the young players that are struggling, while not giving him any credit for the young players that are doing well, is being objective and fair?

Streit was hurt last season also, and still had another year on his deal. The Flyers have not missed the playoffs yet.
- MJL

I think I'm absolutely being objective. Konecny and Provorov are clear talents. Put them on the ice and watch them go. I think Hakstol has no idea what to do with the other young players.

Finally tonight, an actual game to discuss!!!

I think I'm absolutely being objective. Konecny and Provorov are clear talents. Put them on the ice and watch them go. I think Hakstol has no idea what to do with the other young players.
- SuperSchennBros

So Provorov and Konecny require zero coaching. Just put them on the ice and watch them go? He ran a very successful college hockey program with a constant turnover of players. What you're saying doesn't make sense, and it's certainly not objective. Gostisbehere is not a clear talent? You stated that Provorov and Konecny are succeeding on their own merits. It's not possible that young players who are struggling are doing so on their own merits?

Finally tonight, an actual game to discuss!!!
- BiggE

This has all the signs of a typical suck the enjoyment out of hockey 3 0 loss to the devils. Rested flyers play devils who played last night and lost.

If the devils score first I'll probably shut it off to watch paint dry. Haha. I always try to convince myself that maybe this time the game vs the devils will be worth watching then I watch a game like the loss before Xmas and realize nothing has changed.

Just seems for the last 20 years we've had trouble beating them and what's worse it's a boring game to watch.

So Provorov and Konecny require zero coaching. Just put them on the ice and watch them go? He ran a very successful college hockey program with a constant turnover of players. What you're saying doesn't make sense, and it's certainly not objective. Gostisbehere is not a clear talent? You stated that Provorov and Konecny are succeeding on their own merits. It's not possible that young players who are struggling are doing so on their own merits?
- MJL

Fire Hakstol
Call up the prospects
Put them on the ice and watch them go
Trade all no talent bums that require coaching.

This has all the signs of a typical suck the enjoyment out of hockey 3 0 loss to the devils. Rested flyers play devils who played last night and lost.

If the devils score first I'll probably shut it off to watch paint dry. Haha. I always try to convince myself that maybe this time the game vs the devils will be worth watching then I watch a game like the loss before Xmas and realize nothing has changed.

Just seems for the last 20 years we've had trouble beating them and what's worse it's a boring game to watch.
- Hextall271

Well there are no excuses that can made for this team by the players, coaches, management or even loyal fans if they come out with a poor effort.
It is time to put up or shut up.if the current roster can't do it, send guys down..bring guys up or make a deal.

This has all the signs of a typical suck the enjoyment out of hockey 3 0 loss to the devils. Rested flyers play devils who played last night and lost.

If the devils score first I'll probably shut it off to watch paint dry. Haha. I always try to convince myself that maybe this time the game vs the devils will be worth watching then I watch a game like the loss before Xmas and realize nothing has changed.

Just seems for the last 20 years we've had trouble beating them and what's worse it's a boring game to watch.
- Hextall271

Of course I want them to win, but just as importantly I want to see them compete for 60 minutes, no matter what the score is. If the Devils do score first, this teams needs to respond by playing even harder, not collapsing in on themselves as they have done in recent weeks. I will especially be focusing on the veteran players. They need to do a better job of leading by example and it needs to start tonight.

Well there are no excuses that can made for this team by the players, coaches, management or even loyal fans if they come out with a poor effort.
It is time to put up or shut up.if the current roster can't do it, send guys down..bring guys up or make a deal.
- 3flyerkids

Well there are no excuses that can made for this team by the players, coaches, management or even loyal fans if they come out with a poor effort.
It is time to put up or shut up.if the current roster can't do it, send guys down..bring guys up or make a deal.
- 3flyerkids

There is a salary cap in place, as well as rules regarding the number of veteran players that you can have in the AHL. Agree completely on the excuses part.

There is a salary cap in place, as well as rules regarding the number of veteran players that you can have in the AHL. Agree completely on the excuses part.
- MJL

I understand you can't ship half of the team to the Phantoms. If this team is to remain a " bubble team" changes will have to be made IMO. Nothing to loose in bringing up Morin for a few games, he cannot be worse than what we have seen.

Shake things up a little, make a deal.. Doesn't have to be a blockbuster. If same effort occurs than something has to be done

I understand you can't ship half of the team to the Phantoms. If this team is to remain a " bubble team" changes will have to be made IMO. Nothing to loose in bringing up Morin for a few games, he cannot be worse than what we have seen.

Shake things up a little, make a deal.. Doesn't have to be a blockbuster. If same effort occurs than something has to be done
- 3flyerkids

The Flyers aren't going to use the NHL for "tryouts" as long as they are still in the playoff hunt. They're also going to consider what is best for the player. There is absolutely something to lose in bringing up Morin, if they do so before he is ready. If the Flyers are significantly out of a playoff spot as we get closer to the deadline, then I think some moves will be made to acquire future assets, and then we could see some players called up.

The Flyers aren't going to use the NHL for "tryouts" as long as they are still in the playoff hunt. They're also going to consider what is best for the player. There is absolutely something to lose in bringing up Morin, if they do so before he is ready. If the Flyers are significantly out of a playoff spot as we get closer to the deadline, then I think some moves will be made to acquire future assets, and then we could see some players called up.
- MJL

The whole idea of: oh no, if we bring a guy up too soon for a game or 2 he will be ruined forever, is just silly. Sure, if you keep him up for weeks and/or barely use him, it would be pointless. But bringing up a guy like Morin for a game or 2 and then sending him back to LHV is not going to do any lasting damage.

Well there are no excuses that can made for this team by the players, coaches, management or even loyal fans if they come out with a poor effort.
It is time to put up or shut up.if the current roster can't do it, send guys down..bring guys up or make a deal.
- 3flyerkids

I totally agree. I would say that if we continue to slump right out of playoff competition, then I don't make a trade unless it's to send out impending ufas for picks. Then you can call up morin etc to see what you have.

Tbh, the only things that have surprised me this year is how good kony and provy are, that the goaltending has regressed and that they were able to win 10 in a row. I expected a bubble team that would be life and death for a playoff spot. Not a contender and that's what we have. Although I want them to win, this is not a disaster. Stay the course and see what we can do to address issues at the draft.

The whole idea of: oh no, if we bring a guy up too soon for a game or 2 he will be ruined forever, is just silly. Sure, if you keep him up for weeks and/or barely use him, it would be pointless. But bringing up a guy like Morin for a game or 2 and then sending him back to LHV is not going to do any lasting damage.
- BiggE

If they are excelling at the ahl level, I have no issue bringing morin or sanheim up. That's an assessment that hexy has to make though. You could send a mac down.

The whole idea of: oh no, if we bring a guy up too soon for a game or 2 he will be ruined forever, is just silly. Sure, if you keep him up for weeks and/or barely use him, it would be pointless. But bringing up a guy like Morin for a game or 2 and then sending him back to LHV is not going to do any lasting damage.
- BiggE

No it's not silly, unless of course you believe that rushing a player into the NHL has never hurt a player's development. What would be accomplished by bringing up a player for a game or two? You do that if you have injuries and have to call up a player, but otherwise what is the purpose. The premise offered was if the team doesn't respond and play hard, and compete hard coming out of the break, then make changes. That's exactly the environment you'd want to place a young player who may not be completely ready for the NHL in!

No it's not silly, unless of course you believe that rushing a player into the NHL has never hurt a player's development. What would be accomplished by bringing up a player for a game or two? You do that if you have injuries and have to call up a player, but otherwise what is the purpose. The premise offered was if the team doesn't respond and play hard, and compete hard coming out of the break, then make changes. That's exactly the environment you'd want to place a young player who may not be completely ready for the NHL in!
- MJL

This team D is probably the softest in the NHL. They get pushed around every night which I am sure contributes to the worst GA in the league . Will Morin instantly make everything better..no, but let's give the guy some games see what he has and provide NHL experience. Hey, he will add edge to our Dcore . Bottom line let's not be afraid to make a change or two.

This team D is probably the softest in the NHL. They get pushed around every night which I am sure contributes to the worst GA in the league . Will Morin instantly make everything better..no, but let's give the guy some games see what he has and provide NHL experience. Hey, he will add edge to our Dcore . Bottom line let's not be afraid to make a change or two.
- 3flyerkids

That's not the philosophy of how a team should approach player development in my opinion. Unless you're forced to do so due to injury, you let the players development path decide when to call him up. When the Flyers decide that Morin is ready to take the next step and continue his development at the NHL level, is when he should be promoted. Not because our current defense is deemed the softest in the NHL.

This team D is probably the softest in the NHL. They get pushed around every night which I am sure contributes to the worst GA in the league . Will Morin instantly make everything better..no, but let's give the guy some games see what he has and provide NHL experience. Hey, he will add edge to our Dcore . Bottom line let's not be afraid to make a change or two.
- 3flyerkids

I get what you're saying. I just think hexy has decided that to bring him into this mess right now won't help him. If we're out of it, maybe that changes. If it were going to happen, I think they would have tried it by now. I'll be honest, haven't watched him a lot this year, but I know his footwork needed work. Need to make sure he's ready and doesn't get stunted by throwing him to the wolves.

The d does need what he has the potential to provide. I can't wait to see him up here when he's ready. Our d has the potential to be like Nashville good/deep.

That's not the philosophy of how a team should approach player development in my opinion. Unless you're forced to do so due to injury, you let the players development path decide when to call him up. When the Flyers decide that Morin is ready to take the next step and continue his development at the NHL level, is when he should be promoted. Not because our current defense is deemed the softest in the NHL.
- MJL

I understand Hextall's philosophy of patience, but I think he takes it a little too far. The Flyers D has not played well, I don't think anyone can dispute that. Morin has played over 100 games at the AHL level, again this is a fact, not an opinion. I think 100+ games and the fact that he's been playing pretty well at LHV, gives him enough experience and the Flyers enough of a reason, to call him up.

Is the Flyers D the softest in the league? Maybe, maybe not. But one thing is for sure, it does lack physicality and overall, it's not a very good group. Being patient is fine, but you also owe it to your current players and to your fans who are buying tickets and merchandise to put the best team possible on the ice.

I'm not calling for the Flyers to bring up half a dozen kids or a bunch of 1st year pros, but guys like Morin, Hagg and Leier all have quite a bit of AHL experience. If the team continues to struggle, changes should be made.

That's not the philosophy of how a team should approach player development in my opinion. Unless you're forced to do so due to injury, you let the players development path decide when to call him up. When the Flyers decide that Morin is ready to take the next step and continue his development at the NHL level, is when he should be promoted. Not because our current defense is deemed the softest in the NHL.
- MJL

It's so fantastic that the phantoms are doing so well. Breeding a winning environment is great for the kids confidence.

I get what you're saying. I just think hexy has decided that to bring him into this mess right now won't help him. If we're out of it, maybe that changes. If it were going to happen, I think they would have tried it by now. I'll be honest, haven't watched him a lot this year, but I know his footwork needed work. Need to make sure he's ready and doesn't get stunted by throwing him to the wolves.

The d does need what he has the potential to provide. I can't wait to see him up here when he's ready. Our d has the potential to be like Nashville good/deep.
- Hextall271

You know what, I don't buy what I highlighted in your post. Facing a little adversity is not the worst thing in the world for a young player.