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golfingsince
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Jan 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
Where will the States get their Lumber from? Hydro? Manufacturing ?(most of what they won't take from China will/could be back in the states....but I'm quite sure they will need Canada to cover for the rest).
- WaterBoy


Kentucky? They have plenty of lumber in the states, it just costs more.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
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Jan 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
Where will the States get their Lumber from? Hydro? Manufacturing ?(most of what they won't take from China will/could be back in the states....but I'm quite sure they will need Canada to cover for the rest).
- WaterBoy


the Americans produce more lumber than anyone. they can get it domestically if Canadian lumber is tariffed up the wazoo. hydro... if you take Trump at his word Americans will have lots of other energy sources. manufacturing... again, if you take Trump at his word, they'll be looking domestic as much as possible. Canada doesn't necessarily compete in the same realms as China in terms of exports to the US. Trump isn't about making American exports more attractive, he's about pricing imports out of the market.

not saying whether Trump will be god or bad for America but at his word, i can't see him being great for Canada.

Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jan 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
Where will the States get their Lumber from? Hydro? Manufacturing ?(most of what they won't take from China will/could be back in the states....but I'm quite sure they will need Canada to cover for the rest).
- WaterBoy

yeah, we have no trees here.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 20 @ 4:49 PM ET
...and you sound as blind and naive as those Trumpistan rednecks.
- stinger67

lol did john oliver come up with that ????? lolololol
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jan 20 @ 4:49 PM ET
Kentucky? They have plenty of lumber in the states, it just costs more.
- golfingsince

i heard Oregon might have a tree or two.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 20 @ 4:50 PM ET
outside of keystone how will Canada benefit from his presidency? he could be disastrous for manufacturers who depend on exports to the US, ditto for lumber exporters. if he really tightens immigration laws you could see more strain on Canada's system. and in any territorial dispute with Russia in the Arctic, jeez i wonder whose side he would take.
- DoubleDown


There's no talk here about the state of things in Ontario and Quebec. There's still a prevailing attitude of "(frank) those guys" in Sask and Alberta.
mr.peanut
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Jan 20 @ 4:50 PM ET
i heard Oregon might have a tree or two.
- Gramps28

nike owns that state iirc
golfingsince
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Jan 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
i heard Oregon might have a tree or two.
- Gramps28


When I lived up north and worked bartender some execs from the industry in the US would fly up there. They were amazed at the amount of forest. Then again, trees take 3 times as long to grow with the long winters.

As for hydro, if you take Trump at his word they'll be firing up coal generators.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
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Jan 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
You sound as nervous as those queers in Ottawa..
- pete26


you just saw a sworn in President tell the world that he's going to close off economic avenues to the world's largest economy and renegotiate trade deals to the benefit of his country only, and you see no reason for that country's largest trade partner to have some anxiety over it?

pete i know you evaluate Trump on a personal level because he tells hard truths. personally i don't care if hookers piss in his mouth and he (frank)s goats and monkeys. im just looking at this pragmatically. sorry i just don't see how he's good for Canada ASSUMING he follows through on his campaign rhetoric.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
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Jan 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
nike owns that state iirc
- mr.peanut

be pretty easy to burn a swoosh on lumber.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
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Jan 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
you just saw a sworn in President tell the world that he's going to close off economic avenues to the world's largest economy and renegotiate trade deals to the benefit of his country only, and you see no reason for that country's largest trade partner to have some anxiety over it?

pete i know you evaluate Trump on a personal level because he tells hard truths. personally i don't care if hookers piss in his mouth and he (frank)s goats and monkeys. im just looking at this pragmatically. sorry i just don't see how he's good for Canada ASSUMING he follows through on his campaign rhetoric.

- DoubleDown

and trump must be fearing trudeau's strongly worded facebook post (in french, because he might still be touring Quebec) on this issue.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jan 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
When I lived up north and worked bartender some execs from the industry in the US would fly up there. They were amazed at the amount of forest. Then again, trees take 3 times as long to grow with the long winters.

As for hydro, if you take Trump at his word they'll be firing up coal generators.

- golfingsince


he did have the climate section of the white house web page removed.

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jan 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
When I lived up north and worked bartender some execs from the industry in the US would fly up there. They were amazed at the amount of forest. Then again, trees take 3 times as long to grow with the long winters.

As for hydro, if you take Trump at his word they'll be firing up coal generators.

- golfingsince


that's all im saying...
golfingsince
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Jan 20 @ 4:56 PM ET
he did have the climate section of the white house web page removed.
- Gramps28

mr.peanut
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Jan 20 @ 4:56 PM ET
he did have the climate section of the white house web page removed.
- Gramps28

site was cleaned by the previous admin. though trump never had a climate section on his campaign site.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 20 @ 4:56 PM ET
the Americans produce more lumber than anyone. they can get it domestically if Canadian lumber is tariffed up the wazoo. hydro... if you take Trump at his word Americans will have lots of other energy sources. manufacturing... again, if you take Trump at his word, they'll be looking domestic as much as possible. Canada doesn't necessarily compete in the same realms as China in terms of exports to the US. Trump isn't about making American exports more attractive, he's about pricing imports out of the market.

not saying whether Trump will be god or bad for America but at his word, i can't see him being great for Canada.

- DoubleDown


Canada is the biggest export market for 35 states, and 9 million American jobs rely directly on trade with Canada.

Pretty sure the sky ain't gonna fall Adam.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
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Jan 20 @ 4:56 PM ET
and trump must be fearing trudeau's strongly worded facebook post (in french, because he might still be touring Quebec) on this issue.
- mr.peanut


exactly. i would have much preferred a Conservative cabinet handling any NAFTA negotiations.
golfingsince
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Jan 20 @ 4:57 PM ET
that's all im saying...
- DoubleDown


He doesn't really strike me as the type to rip up old trade agreements.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jan 20 @ 4:57 PM ET
that's all im saying...
- DoubleDown

tbf, its pretty hard to take trump at his word. it changes pretty frequently.
golfingsince
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Jan 20 @ 4:58 PM ET
Canada is the biggest export market for 35 states, and 9 million American jobs rely directly on trade with Canada.

Pretty sure the sky ain't gonna fall Adam.

- pete26


It's not like we can stop buying food because he stops buying lumber.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 20 @ 5:01 PM ET
all rhetoric....they want to reopen NAFTA to screw the Mexicans mostly who have taken advantage of their cheap cost to welcome many US business down there. NAFTA actually benefits the US slightly more than Canada (US trade surplus), trade between Mexico and the US is HUGLY in favour of the Mexicans.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
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Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 20 @ 5:01 PM ET
tbf, its pretty hard to take trump at his word. it changes pretty frequently.
- Gramps28


True enough. Though if he IS as isolationist as his apparent policies seem to be, we're probably not going to have a very fun time for a little while here.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 20 @ 5:02 PM ET
you just saw a sworn in President tell the world that he's going to close off economic avenues to the world's largest economy and renegotiate trade deals to the benefit of his country only, and you see no reason for that country's largest trade partner to have some anxiety over it?

pete i know you evaluate Trump on a personal level because he tells hard truths. personally i don't care if hookers piss in his mouth and he (frank)s goats and monkeys. im just looking at this pragmatically. sorry i just don't see how he's good for Canada ASSUMING he follows through on his campaign rhetoric.

- DoubleDown


Heaven forbid a guy that runs a country like a business.

Maybe Doughhead will learn a thing or two..
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jan 20 @ 5:02 PM ET
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 20 @ 5:03 PM ET
Heaven forbid a guy that runs a country like a business.

Maybe Doughhead will learn a thing or two..

- pete26

So Trump can bring the US to bankruptcy like he did 4 times during his business career? Whooohooo
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