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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:53 PM ET
Lol member when people here wouldn't trade Drouin for a 2nd or even Hagg last year? First level right there.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:53 PM ET
So German plays his first game in juniors and post game drops a sexy Instagram pic of him and his girl. He's like the QMJHL version of Embiid
- YuenglingJagr


Haha what? Post it here.

"I was trying to get with this famous girl and she said 'Come back when you're a QMJHL All Star' bruhh."
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 20 @ 12:05 AM ET
He accepted my follow request
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 20 @ 12:33 AM ET
He accepted my follow request
- Mordecai


Big Westworld fan......also, I'm kind of worried for his social media future accepting rando requests. He better be careful. We don't want a Konecny Twitter situation part deux.
PVL29
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2015

Jan 20 @ 1:30 AM ET
Speaking of Twitters, I checked out Fazleev's and he seems like a great kid

https://twitter.com/Fazleev29
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 20 @ 1:36 AM ET
Lol member when people here wouldn't trade Drouin for a 2nd or even Hagg last year? First level right there.
- Mononoke


(frank)ing Tampa is loaded with young talent
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 20 @ 7:15 AM ET
Lol member when people here wouldn't trade Drouin for a 2nd or even Hagg last year? First level right there.
- Mononoke




PLease point out who these idiots were in your next newsletter. Because I wanted Drouin in the worst way. And for Hagg or a 2nd? The only thing I can think of, is in that context why would Tampa do that? Maybe that was the source of the debate.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 20 @ 7:51 AM ET
Lol member when people here wouldn't trade Drouin for a 2nd or even Hagg last year? First level right there.
- Mononoke


I was willing to offer Morin if needed. My thought was if we acquire Drouin he immediately becomes our top LW and scoring threat for 1st line.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 20 @ 7:57 AM ET
After reviewing a list of to-be free agents I have come to the conclusion I would like to sign 1 of Justin Williams, Patrick Sharp, or Patrick Berglund this offseason. I think Berglund could help as 3rd line center and after all the talk of our core needing a shake up and our team lacking leadership, I think Williams or Sharp would be a great veteran winger with that leadership voice and presence. Especially after Streit's departure.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:00 AM ET
I see German Rubtsov made his QMJHL debut last night. 6 shots 2 assist and named third star of the game. Anyone happen to see the game or hear of any other reports on his game last night?
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:01 AM ET
I was willing to offer Morin if needed. My thought was if we acquire Drouin he immediately becomes our top LW and scoring threat for 1st line.
- arichardson22


As true as this is, Hexy doesn't seem to be willing to part with any of the young prospects; forwards or defensemen. He's stated, several times, that he won't make any trades that don't help the team both now and in the future. Until he actually makes a trade, I don't believe he'll be moving anyone!
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 20 @ 8:01 AM ET
I was willing to offer Morin if needed. My thought was if we acquire Drouin he immediately becomes our top LW and scoring threat for 1st line.
- arichardson22


I see your point on the trade. I was going to offer VDV, but then I began to think I was overpaying for drioun. So I dropped the offer to haag and a 3rd.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 20 @ 8:07 AM ET
As true as this is, Hexy doesn't seem to be willing to part with any of the young prospects; forwards or defensemen. He's stated, several times, that he won't make any trades that don't help the team both now and in the future. Until he actually makes a trade, I don't believe he'll be moving anyone!
- aantny88


Yeah I agree and all true, but as you said, Hexy would make a deal if it helps now and in the future and a deal acquiring Drouin fits both the now and future. I think at the end of the day I rather keep Morin, but I was for sure willing to sacrifice Morin for Drouin last year.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 20 @ 8:14 AM ET
What is his IG handle?!

Found it. He's private

- Mordecai


He probably got told ... go private or remove yourself from it.

These kids are probably in for a fun time when crazy Flyers fan gets on there and screams that they are "the Suxors".
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Jan 20 @ 8:18 AM ET
As true as this is, Hexy doesn't seem to be willing to part with any of the young prospects; forwards or defensemen. He's stated, several times, that he won't make any trades that don't help the team both now and in the future. Until he actually makes a trade, I don't believe he'll be moving anyone!
- aantny88


The thing is, there is no reason to move anyone of the young prospects now. Then, you deal in a position of weakness, not strength. If a move is made, it's going to be one that pushes us into the 'serious' contender category. There is not one realistic trade out there that will make us into a contender right now.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 20 @ 8:24 AM ET
I was willing to offer Morin if needed. My thought was if we acquire Drouin he immediately becomes our top LW and scoring threat for 1st line.
- arichardson22



I expect that hexy tried to get him but the cost was high. Tampa didn't have to trade him. Wonder what it'd take to get duclair.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 20 @ 8:27 AM ET
As true as this is, Hexy doesn't seem to be willing to part with any of the young prospects; forwards or defensemen. He's stated, several times, that he won't make any trades that don't help the team both now and in the future. Until he actually makes a trade, I don't believe he'll be moving anyone!
- aantny88



I suspect that part of the problem is that he's still trying to assess how good the prospects are going to be. He doesn't want to give up on a kid and then have him turn into a real star. Not willing to take that chance yet when we are not contenders.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 20 @ 8:28 AM ET
I expect that hexy tried to get him but the cost was high. Tampa didn't have to trade him. Wonder what it'd take to get duclair.
- Hextall271


Id take a flyer on him..heheehehe.. had too. No, seriously though I would. He could become a top 6 forward or just crap the bed. So the asking price would be key. If third gets it done sure. Maybe a second and mcdud contract half retained or something.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 20 @ 8:29 AM ET
As true as this is, Hexy doesn't seem to be willing to part with any of the young prospects; forwards or defensemen. He's stated, several times, that he won't make any trades that don't help the team both now and in the future. Until he actually makes a trade, I don't believe he'll be moving anyone!
- aantny88

There has been a lot of talk that he offered Morin + for ekblad. I really don't know how true it is, but it seemed a lot more substantiated than you would expect from Hextall's camp. I don't think he's just looking to make a trade with the young guys, but if an opportunity to get a guy like Ekblad or Drouin were to come up, I am sure he would consider it
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:31 AM ET
The thing is, there is no reason to move anyone of the young prospects now. Then, you deal in a position of weakness, not strength. If a move is made, it's going to be one that pushes us into the 'serious' contender category. There is not one realistic trade out there that will make us into a contender right now.
- VladDrag


If that's his stance, then it appears as though the franchise is in "rebuild" mode and if they make the playoffs/stay competitive, it's just icing on the cake. Problem with that is, you don't get a franchise player (Crosby, Stamkos, Ovie, McJesus, et.al) by drafting in the mid part of the first round every year. With G, Jake, and Simmer all in their prime now, by the time Sanhiem, Morin, Hagg, etc. are full time with the big club, those 3 will be in serious decline.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 20 @ 8:32 AM ET
If that's his stance, then it appears as though the franchise is in "rebuild" mode and if they make the playoffs/stay competitive, it's just icing on the cake. Problem with that is, you don't get a franchise player (Crosby, Stamkos, Ovie, McJesus, et.al) by drafting in the mid part of the first round every year. With G, Jake, and Simmer all in their prime now, by the time Sanhiem, Morin, Hagg, etc. are full time with the big club, those 3 will be in serious decline.
- aantny88

Which is why it is more important that we keep that core (defensemen) together.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:33 AM ET
There has been a lot of talk that he offered Morin + for ekblad. I really don't know how true it is, but it seemed a lot more substantiated than you would expect from Hextall's camp. I don't think he's just looking to make a trade with the young guys, but if an opportunity to get a guy like Ekblad or Drouin were to come up, I am sure he would consider it
- YuenglingJagr


I don't know how in good conscience he couldn't consider it...both guys are young and are stars in the league already. Either of them would make a huge difference on this team immediately and for the future. Morin, this year's first and maybe Laughton might get it done for Drouin...not sure that would be enough for Ekblad though. Florida would probably want Simmer to which my reply would be hell no!
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:35 AM ET
Which is why it is more important that we keep that core (defensemen) together.
- YuenglingJagr


I think the Flyers have a great crop of young defensive prospects...it's the forwards I'm worried about. Some decent sounding offensive players, but no "generational talents" in that mix.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Jan 20 @ 8:37 AM ET
I suspect that part of the problem is that he's still trying to assess how good the prospects are going to be. He doesn't want to give up on a kid and then have him turn into a real star. Not willing to take that chance yet when we are not contenders.
- Hextall271


Trust me, I know where he's coming from with not wanting to give up on young players...Patrick Sharp? Unfortunately, to get someone that's going to impact the team now and in the future, via trade, they'll have to give up a potential asset in the process.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 20 @ 8:40 AM ET
There has been a lot of talk that he offered Morin + for ekblad. I really don't know how true it is, but it seemed a lot more substantiated than you would expect from Hextall's camp. I don't think he's just looking to make a trade with the young guys, but if an opportunity to get a guy like Ekblad or Drouin were to come up, I am sure he would consider it
- YuenglingJagr


Ekblad is overpaid compared to other young dmen like Ristolainen and Lindholm. I wouldn't give up a ton for him.
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