...and keep adding every year.
- Marwood

It's getting better but we need a few more solid drafts of course

I think Tanev is the likely candidate. His value is probably as high as it will ever be.
JB could hit a homerun on a Tanev deal, or fast track his way to the unemployment line if he screws it up.
- Vanoxy

I would agree but his opening statement was we struggled without Tanev and Edler in the lineup .

Perhaps we trade a waiver exempt D for a waiver exempt forward. You can't think of trades one dimensionally.
- CanuckDon

That's fine on exempt part. It still leaves the exposure and reality of losing Sbisa or Hansen for nothing. Smarter move is to move a D that protects one of your other exposed D. Same on forward.

Around 92 to 96 things got way out of control for me in Surrey. Not that things were not crazy in East Van and Toronto but I was a teenager then... poop got real in my 20's...lol. Cleaned house on the people I associated with about 98. Left the lower mainland 2000...

- boonerbuck

I think differently. You already have a young lineup Bo Sven Granlund Sutter .

You have a vets like Eriksson Hansen Burrows and the two old guys. That is your top nine.

Next year Burrows is gone and in comes Boeser. The following year you lose the twins and Hansen. but you have 16.7 in cap space to help find replacements.

That is where the one or two trades come in to replace to top 6.

I know in here we see things differently but Benning said today " Our team is now young enough and we like what we have , we will keep our picks now going forward and draft and develop"
- VANTEL

That's 2/3 of a 2nd line and 2/3 of a 3rd line for the next few years. Not exactly 'set' in my books.

It's getting better but we need a few more solid drafts of course
- CanuckDon

Yes. Coming. In mean time the spots open at forward next season are easily filled by the prospects in the system.

Tyutin, Fedor 33 D $2,000,000 UFA (2017) ✔
Gelinas, Eric 25 D $1,575,000 RFA (2017) 10GR
Zadorov, Nikita 21 D $894,167 RFA (2017) ✔
Wiercioch, Patrick 26 D $800,000 RFA (2017) ✔
Goloubef, Cody 27 D $750,000 UFA (2017) 14GR



You are right. They would have to sign someone checked above for 2018 contract. They have two NMC plus Barrie taking up protected space on D. So if they take an exposed D in trade now they would lose them.
- Nuck4U

That is where you could trade them Biega for a fourth so they can be cap complient

Do you see the "makes sense" part? Who makes a trade if it doesn't make sense
- CanuckDon

That's fine on exempt part. It still leaves the exposure and reality of losing Sbisa or Hansen for nothing. Smarter move is to move a D that protects one of your other exposed D. Same on forward.
- Nuck4U

I am not getting anywhere with you. you win

- A_SteamingLombardi

With Subban being called up does it change the 3 years away from being 3 years away time schedule?

My point isn't that we are in terrible shape. My point is our young D core is stronger than our young forward core. Forward is a greater weakness heading into the next couple of drafts
- CanuckDon

But.

If you Draft a young RHD stud like Foote , your future (5 years away) has a core of

OJ Foote Tryamkin Gudbrandson Stecher Brisebois Hutton all five years older with more experience.

You can trade Tanev and Edler for top 6 forwards.

I would be willing to bet at least one trade will be made before the start of next season for a top 6 forward. We should also be picking a second pick in the top 45 which again can be used to pick up that forward.

I am not getting anywhere with you. you win
- CanuckDon

I didn't nullify what you said. Just pointed out the repercussions to roster in this silly Vegas year.

But.

If you Draft a young RHD stud like Foote , your future (5 years away) has a core of

OJ Foote Tryamkin Gudbrandson Stecher Brisebois Hutton all five years older with more experience.

You can trade Tanev and Edler for top 6 forwards.

I would be willing to bet at least one trade will be made before the start of next season for a top 6 forward. We should also be picking a second pick in the top 45 which again can be used to pick up that forward.
- VANTEL

I would be ok drafting a D if it was a player Benning couldn't pass on. Last draft Benning went for need with OJ. I just think it's time to address our complete lack of high end scoring prospects. Bo is good. Boeser may be good. Everyone else from 18-23 years old is a complete wildcard. That's a concern

But.

If you Draft a young RHD stud like Foote , your future (5 years away) has a core of

OJ Foote Tryamkin Gudbrandson Stecher Brisebois Hutton all five years older with more experience.

You can trade Tanev and Edler for top 6 forwards.

I would be willing to bet at least one trade will be made before the start of next season for a top 6 forward. We should also be picking a second pick in the top 45 which again can be used to pick up that forward.
- VANTEL

Like your scenario. All possible. You assumed Sbisa is gone to Vegas in that. Just a thought on D and development. Until we see them in the NHL for a bit it's hard to slot them. For instance Guddy & Sbisa were high draft picks who were thought of as studs. Now top 2 placing isn't thought as their calling. So would JB get rid of his top two guys until he knows he's got top 2 D ready to take over?.

We always talk about trading from a position of strength but seldom do the things to follow it up.

Here is an example . Our RHD right now are Stecher Tanev Gudbrandson Tryamkin Subban and Biega . If We draft Foote on RHD with our first pick we have more than enough strength then on RHD.Foote would be an upgrade on most of the existing in five years . Not only do we upgrade but we can trade a player with value that can get a very good return.

Say then you traded and put together a package for Landeskog by trading Tanev.

You still have Stecher Tryamkin Gudbrandson left as Foote develops.

If you drafted a forward you fill a hole. You do one thing only. If you tried to trade Sven Granlund or Hansen your return would not be much at all. That is trading from a place of weakness.

This is why I say Draft a D for the upgrade and trade value of the person you move out.

I would be ok drafting a D if it was a player Benning couldn't pass on. Last draft Benning went for need with OJ. I just think it's time to address our complete lack of high end scoring prospects. Bo is good. Boeser may be good. Everyone else from 18-23 years old is a complete wildcard. That's a concern
- CanuckDon

The thing about picking OJ is that in a few years he will be a stud replacement for Edler plus you get the trade return of Edler . You could still have Hutton Sbisa and OJ as you Left Dmen . Forwards can be traded or a lot easier than Dmen .

Look at Nashville they traded a good Dman for a top line center and still have one of the best D in the league.

Their mistake is trading Weber.

Worth a shot while his value has tanked. I see an awesome 3rd line solid second line player. Am I out of line to try to snag him?

https://www.nhl.com/coyot...uclair-to-ahl/c-285881436

Asked if he is considering moving Gudrandson since Tryamkins emergence , he replied" No . I want toughness on all three lines. We struggled when Tanev and Edler were out of the line up. I like Tryamkin Gudbrandson and Sbisa for their toughness. Stecher has had a real good year. "

So who is left?
- VANTEL

Hutton and tanev. Edler if he waives. That's it.

Hutton and tanev. Edler if he waives. That's it.
- Retinalz

My gut feeling is it will be Tanev .

I would be ok drafting a D if it was a player Benning couldn't pass on. Last draft Benning went for need with OJ. I just think it's time to address our complete lack of high end scoring prospects. Bo is good. Boeser may be good. Everyone else from 18-23 years old is a complete wildcard. That's a concern
- CanuckDon

Wouldn't you call OJ BPA? Doesn't he have more upside then Trat?

That aside you are right about scoring. JB has said he's looking for that. But if comes from D, like Vantel is saying about shot weapon, it helps as well.

Anyway, now so far away from draft and where we land who the BPA or best scorer would be is a toss up.

Wouldn't you call OJ BPA? Doesn't he have more upside then Trat?

That aside you are right about scoring. JB has said he's looking for that. But if comes from D, like Vantel is saying about shot weapon, it helps as well.

Anyway, now so far away from draft and where we land who the BPA or best scorer would be is a toss up.
- Nuck4U

Was Tkachuk bpa? Depends who you ask.

Oh come on... this was in the mid 90's.... in Surrey

- boonerbuck

I work in Surrey now. At Central City towers. I use the sky train a lot. That (frank)ing station is a gong show. I can't imagine what it was like before all the development.

Hutton and tanev. Edler if he waives. That's it.
- Retinalz

Nobody will be moved on D. I think they will add at the TDL and try for that last playoff spot.

Was Tkachuk bpa? Depends who you ask.
- CanuckDon

Lets ask Redmile he always says he will give an honest opinion