I think he said it best himself at the beginning of the season about Chara, the same would probably apply to Pronger.

"I would like to surpass and be better than Zdeno Chara,"
- VanHockeyGuy

His skating is way better than charas, trees no where near as mean. I can see him as a rushing d man if they don't hold him back.

D are always at a premium, but I agree you can't build a team that way.

It also hurts if you have to really on Benning to make trades.
- golfingsince

Disagree

Other than the Pens what team has had soso D that won cups recently?
Next what about JB's trading ability do u not like?
Lastly do u see trades happening frequently throughout the league these days?

D are always at a premium, but I agree you can't build a team that way.

It also hurts if you have to really on Benning to make trades.
- golfingsince

Thanks for the haven

My point is some years goaltenders are in high demand and others it may be forwards or D. The trade market evolves yearly and loading up on D for 3 straight years would be incredibly short sighted.
- CanuckDon

Goaltending can stop good teams winning the cup...Blues
D hinders teams to even make the PO's...TBL Dallas
Needing both makes for lotto teams...AV's Yotes

Need goalies to keep teams in the game to give a shot at winning.
D for controlling ops dynamic scorers.
Stars & role players complete the equation.
A hot goalie can carry a team...Thomas
In that case the Bruins were nothing special without him.
Quick put LA over the top.
The other players merely finished the job mostly.
Its always a team effort in the end but if the weakest link starts in goal cups r not won. If its D then goalies gotta stand on their heads or its over.

With how we r playing & projecting our draft position D seems to be the BPA available to us. So do we expect a trade? If yes then i expect a D moved. I know i've spitballed many ideas but ot makes sense to me. Tanev always comes to mind not cuz of his play & he is valuable to us but for the obvious that he would fetch the most IMO. If a package deal to get our man so be it. That would be a C hopefully but if a LW fine. Just using the usual rumoured players that is Duchesne Landeskog or Kane for the bigger names but maybe blue chip prospects r in play idk who though. Maybe even a domino effect occurs as in Hansen whom i'd hate to trade goes also as a lead up to the expansion draft. The bigger questions is what JB wants our core to be. He will either stay the course & risk us losing either Sbisa or Granlund or go full out. I don't see much of a middle ground but he has surprised us before.
- Nighthawk

It's something to look out for whether it makes a real impact or not. The biggest trades are always a surprise. So let's see.

JB may have to stay pat in a Vegas expansion. It may be the only option available until the offseason. That's why the speculation and surprise odds will escalate by TDL.

Lundqvist for 4 more years @$8.5m looks like a gigantic anchor these days.
And then here we speak of our contracts that r expiring sooner lol

I am sure Tree wants to take a pay cut to head back to the K
- CanuckDon

I wasn't talking about tree


I meant Rodin

It's something to look out for whether it makes a real impact or not. The biggest trades are always a surprise. So let's see.

JB may have to stay pat in a Vegas expansion. It may be the only option available until the offseason. That's why the speculation and surprise odds will escalate by TDL.
- Nuck4U

Standing pat seems most likely.
Big trades r most difficult to pull off with the teams up against the cap.
Cap space teams r bottom feeders & the likelyhood of big trades r lessened.
Prospects & picks r a high commodity to allow GM's to spend money elsewhere.
That is where GM's r either smart or stupid. Cap control is the biggest single factor for teams in the short & longterm. I'm no fan of the 6-8yr terms unless its for the true star at a young age. Not for rewarding older players where it takes them into their mid 30's. Very few fall into that category maybe Kane Toews Crosby Malkin Quick but idk if any others do

Thanks for the haven
- A_SteamingLombardi

Disagree

Other than the Pens what team has had soso D that won cups recently?
Next what about JB's trading ability do u not like?
Lastly do u see trades happening frequently throughout the league these days?
- Nighthawk

Name a team that has won the cup without forwards.

I don't like that he keeps losing trades.

If you don't see trades happening, maybe we should draft some players for all positions.

The TDL will be the 1st opportunity to force some teams pre-expansion hands.
Using the cup runs by a few teams to leverage trades is one ploy.
The Habs have some good assets to make a deal not in the NHL.
The LAK nothing much IMO
The Hawks r always in the mix.
TBL is bleeding & need D. Glad we dumped Garrison on them lol
Dallas needs a REAL goaltender to go with dynamic offense.
Preds r always a mystery but they will shake their funk IMO
FLA have simply gone weird & no clue how to help them.

Any other teams i miss?

Name a team that has won the cup without forwards.

I don't like that he keeps losing trades.

If you don't see trades happening, maybe we should draft some players for all positions.
- golfingsince

Need an entire team geling.
Never said forwards were not needed to win.
I did say why teams lose.

Lose trades? R u serious or can u not make a case with names?

As for the draft its too difficult to speculate.
I will predict us picking a D 1st round if we trade a D.
If no trade then BPA is my next guess.

I wasn't talking about tree


I meant Rodin
- Redmile247

He's a closed issue until or if he recovers. He wants to make it in the NHL so if he gets another contract he will stay.

I have my opinions on both ends of the spectrum on why teams have success or lack of it. I'm no guru but whichever side i take whether devils advocate or not i try to be honest in my assessments.

Furthermore if anyone puts me to the question they should be prepared for the same.
Anyone can say anything but backing it up right or wrong is important.
We all have our opinions & r allowed our point of views.
Flaming is not acceptable in my books.
I do luv a good teta a tete & like to learn when wrong belive it or not 😂😂

He's a closed issue until or if he recovers. He wants to make it in the NHL so if he gets another contract he will stay.
- Nuck4U

IMO at this stage of his career is at most likely in for PTO's here on in.
The door of opportunity stays open only for so long so he needs to walk thru it soon.

The TDL will be the 1st opportunity to force some teams pre-expansion hands.
Using the cup runs by a few teams to leverage trades is one ploy.
The Habs have some good assets to make a deal not in the NHL.
The LAK nothing much IMO
The Hawks r always in the mix.
TBL is bleeding & need D. Glad we dumped Garrison on them lol
Dallas needs a REAL goaltender to go with dynamic offense.
Preds r always a mystery but they will shake their funk IMO
FLA have simply gone weird & no clue how to help them.

Any other teams i miss?
- Nighthawk

IF you are talking about Cup run teams looking to buy at TDL then add in Pens, Caps, Wild and Sharks. Plus pretenders Ducks and Rangers. CBJ is either overachieving in season for rude awakening candidate during playoffs; or the real deal and will buy hard to prove it.

But for Nucks not much above seem to offer value options if they want to move a vet.

I wasn't talking about tree


I meant Rodin
- Redmile247

Only Nuck4U cares about him

Callan Foote. Could drop to our slot. Huge body. A touch under a ppg pace in the W this year. And his stats just keep getting better.

Not to mention he has a winners pedigree. I'd love that kid on our blue line.
- vancity787

Id be cool with Foote, depending on where we pick. We have lots of Dmen but lack any with top pairing potential a few years from now other than Tanev. OJ is not looking that great at this point, maybe just tired from a long season last year. Even so we lack a true offensive game changing Dman like a doughty, hedman, karlsson etc.

Im hoping for a Center or a true offensive Dman in the 1st round. After that id like all forwards unless something really seems to be a steal.

Only Nuck4U cares about him
- CanuckDon

I can see it now ....


Rodin signs PTO in Toronto

Id be cool with Foote, depending on where we pick. We have lots of Dmen but lack any with top pairing potential a few years from now other than Tanev. OJ is not looking that great at this point, maybe just tired from a long season last year. Even so we lack a true offensive game changing Dman like a doughty, hedman, karlsson etc.

Im hoping for a Center or a true offensive Dman in the 1st round. After that id like all forwards unless something really seems to be a steal.
- mauryballstein

What do you base this on? reading blogs?

Need an entire team geling.
Never said forwards were not needed to win.
I did say why teams lose.

Lose trades? R u serious or can u not make a case with names?

As for the draft its too difficult to speculate.
I will predict us picking a D 1st round if we trade a D.
If no trade then BPA is my next guess.
- Nighthawk

Could we be revisting the 82 canucks this year? they weren't very good talent wise but they played as a team and miller has the capabilities to get hot.

Only Nuck4U cares about him
- CanuckDon

...and Rodin's mom.

IF you are talking about Cup run teams looking to buy at TDL then add in Pens, Caps, Wild and Sharks. Plus pretenders Ducks and Rangers. CBJ is either overachieving in season for rude awakening candidate during playoffs; or the real deal and will buy hard to prove it.

But for Nucks not much above seem to offer value options if they want to move a vet.
- Nuck4U

Pens IMO don't have the assets to make a big splash. Maybe a tweak.
Caps r pretty well rounded as they stand. Idk if they need to make a deal.
Wild & Sharks r looking good & again idk see much happening.
Ducks r deep in good young D & can see a deal for a younger forward.
Rangers in aworld of hurt IMO. Cup window is closing fast. Lundqvist @$8.5m/yr is not looking very good atm with D getting banged up. Idk what prospects they have to offer let alone fit acquisitions into the cap. Not looking good.

What do you base this on? reading blogs?
- CanuckDon

I'm with u lol