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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 18 @ 10:29 PM ET
I prefer all-situations defenseman over a 1 dimensional defensive liability. Takes to many risks, causing lots of turnovers and others constantly have to work harder to cover the mistakes. If they are a bottom pairing 14 minute a game I can live with that.
- Reubenkincade


When E Johnson is injured he has nobody left.
Forced into the spotlight on a poor D corps hides his true worth.
The comparison is faulty & more dependent upon who is the other top 3D.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
EG is actually something they are looking for, i just think they want a LHD more than RHD unless Erik Johnson gets traded somewhere.
- Retinalz


They aren't looking for 4/5 D man
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 18 @ 10:32 PM ET


I like the things on the Canucks that are good ....EG is not one of them

I don't think any of those guys think he is a stud

- Redmile247



Sorry they have all said that he was . Freidman and Kyper on intermission of HNIC . Martin said it after the game where he fought him. Gallant got fired because of him and you can look up Mitchells tweet yourself.

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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
Only Nuck4U cares about him
- CanuckDon

I was excited when we signed him. Watched some tape on him. He's a really really good player. Very fast and good hockey smarts. Exciting to watch.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
Why don't you send them Hamilton ++? Fixed!
- VanHockeyGuy


Actually someone on the flames thread asked what was the opinion on Brodie + for duchene ...not a fan of this ...but it's more realistic than guddy a grinder and a backup
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 18 @ 10:33 PM ET
I think the Avs are not parting with duchene unless it much better than those ...tanev involved helps but I just don't think the Canucks have the assets they are willing to part with to get him
- Redmile247


In a bidding war we would lose out most likely.
The D going to the Av's would be who decides any trade.
Making some other cap space also in the package may clinch a deal.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 18 @ 10:34 PM ET
They aren't looking for 4/5 D man
- Redmile247



That is correct that is why the have no interest in the Flames
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 18 @ 10:34 PM ET
Sorry they have all said that he was . Freidman and Kyper on intermission of HNIC . Martin said it after the game where he fought him. Gallant got fired because of him and you can look up Mitchells tweet yourself.

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- VANTEL


Link ?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 18 @ 10:35 PM ET
They aren't looking for 4/5 D man
- Redmile247



They r looking to add 4-5D....corrected ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 18 @ 10:36 PM ET
Nope not at all. The truth is there is very little you like about anything Canucks. We argued all summer about who has the better team. You were convinced Flames were head and shoulders better and yet here we are 3 points behind with one game in hand.

You say EG isn't worth much but Freidman Kyper Gallant Mitchell Matt Martin all say he is a stud . Sorry I call BS on you

- VANTEL

I would personally trade Tanev over Guddy as he will get us a much higher return, and I think Guddy can show more than he has and will get better. Guddy in 2 years will be around Tanev level of shut down D I think. But with a harder shot, guy should get a shooting coach this off season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 18 @ 10:36 PM ET
Link ?
- Redmile247



I just gave you the info .


Google is your friend
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 18 @ 10:37 PM ET
They aren't looking for 4/5 D man
- Redmile247

a LHD version of Guddy would be the perfect partner for barrie.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: โ€œWho are we to think weโ€™re anybody?โ€ - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 18 @ 10:38 PM ET
Actually someone on the flames thread asked what was the opinion on Brodie + for duchene ...not a fan of this ...but it's more realistic than guddy a grinder and a backup
- Redmile247


It would probably take Hamilton and your first this year for Duchene.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 18 @ 10:38 PM ET
They r looking to add 4-5D....corrected ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
- Nighthawk


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 18 @ 10:38 PM ET
I would personally trade Tanev over Guddy as he will get us a much higher return, and I think Guddy can show more than he has and will get better. Guddy in 2 years will be around Tanev level of shut down D I think. But with a harder shot, guy should get a shooting coach this off season.
- Retinalz



I would prefer to keep Guddy myself but I wonder what he will ask for next year. I would gladly have him sign 6 years
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 18 @ 10:39 PM ET
It would probably take Hamilton and your first this year for Duchene.
- VanHockeyGuy



Hamilton is a bust
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 18 @ 10:39 PM ET
I agree MEANNESS is not a teachable quality.
IMPOSING is though and how i would word it.

- Nighthawk

nor is defensive instincts teachable. And he has it in spades.

Come to think of it I dont think Ive seen him cough up the puck even once
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 18 @ 10:40 PM ET
The notion/argument that O.J 'does not possess much offensive ' is quite odd considering even his basic underlying numbers.

89 total OHL games, 70 points for a ppg of 0.79 overall.
He's currently on a 0.88 ppg this year alone, not to mention his memorial cup and WJC play.

- Whiskey-Tango

oj strikes me as a d man that plays better with better players, he puts the puck on the tape so what happens after that isn't his fault, in junior there no where near as good as the nhl.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 18 @ 10:40 PM ET
I would personally trade Tanev over Guddy as he will get us a much higher return, and I think Guddy can show more than he has and will get better. Guddy in 2 years will be around Tanev level of shut down D I think. But with a harder shot, guy should get a shooting coach this off season.
- Retinalz



For all the reasons i like Tanev he simply has no offensive upside.
He is a top shutdown D & i'd shop him to gauge his worth.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 18 @ 10:41 PM ET
i don't equate strength/courage with meanness though.
I expect him to throw his weight around more and stand up for teammates and even fight on occasion...but i don't think he'll have the meanstreak that Pronger had, ie heaps of PIMs, stomping on ankles, being a nasty and borderline dirty player

- dbot

Ill tend to agree there. But he replaces that with smarts
VanHockeyGuy
Location: โ€œWho are we to think weโ€™re anybody?โ€ - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 18 @ 10:41 PM ET
Hamilton is a bust
- VANTEL


He's overrated. Equal to Guddy, no more.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 18 @ 10:43 PM ET
This 99.99% probably won't happen but something to think about.

Canucks have to protect 3 of the 4 Dmen . The proposal I would think about to AVS

They want a young Dman and a young Goalie. I like Gudbrandson a lot but I am not sure how much interest Avs have in Tanev

Gudbrandson Hansen and Markstrom ( young goalie currently our backup) for Duchene . Sign Miller two years 5 mil per.

I am still going for Kane who now has 12 goals and no bad headlines. JV Subban and CBL second

Draft a Dman and use Markstroms money to get a back up

Kane Duchene Eriksson
Sven Bo Boeser
Sedin Sedin Sutter ??
Granlund ?? Dorsett


Edler Stecher
Sbisa Tanev
Hutton Tryamkin

Miller
??

Sven Bo Eriksson

- VANTEL



So trading Tuesday has gone into What if Wednesday. I'm game. Get the turnaround idea you are going for. Will suggest a change though.

How about not overpaying for Dutch. Take Hansen out and send to Sabers add Cole Cassels to that deal too but take back JV.

Put JV with Sedins. Play Sutter with Granlund.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 18 @ 10:43 PM ET
Hamilton is a bust
- VANTEL


It's not Freddie's fault he never developed
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 18 @ 10:44 PM ET
Guy got absolutely crushed by ferklund and came back to finish the game ...he's a warrior in my books ...tough as they come
- Redmile247

you mean headshot (he was in a low position) by ferklund.

Ya both goals came while he was off the ice and none were scored after his return. Says how much he is needed on this team.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 18 @ 10:44 PM ET
It would probably take Hamilton and your first this year for Duchene.
- VanHockeyGuy


We aren't looking for centers though
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