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SABRES 89
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 18 @ 1:52 PM ET
I have nothing
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
Okposo doesn't hurt us now. But at what point do we ever get to say- Wow, what a bargain, we aren't that good this year? Oh well, maybe Vanek can net us a 1st or a nice prospect.

When is someone going to come in and exceed expectations?

- sbroads24

okposo is the best free agent sabres have ever signed
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 1:54 PM ET
I have nothing
- SABRES 89

we are a fringe bad team
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 18 @ 1:55 PM ET
1. Patrick Mahomes — Quarterback — Texas Tech

Rising all the way from number three to number one, Patrick Mahomes appears to be the hot prospect out there right now. Depending on the direction of the Buffalo Bills offense next season, the team may or may not move on from Tyrod Taylor. That said, the team still needs a long term replacement.

While some may be pushing for Clemson quarterback Deshaun Watson — someone I feel is a second or third round pick — a player I really adore is Patrick Mahomes. A gunslinger in every sense of the word, Mahomes would bring a new perspective to the Buffalo Bills offense.

Using the run game to help in Mahomes development, adding the former Red Raider would open deep play avenues not seen under Tyrod. If a passing game is the way towards the playoffs, Mahomes is the guy needed in Buffalo.
SABRES 89
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Jan 18 @ 1:55 PM ET
we are a fringe bad team
- homiedclown

Bad at the hockey
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
Jeepers, is that really what you Sabres fans do?

You guys are embarrassing.

Here in Leafs Nation, we run a guy out of town, watch him produce, lament that he's no longer with the team, and then blame others for running him out of town, swearing that we knew all along he was a superstar...

Wash, rinse, repeat.

- Atomic Wedgie


Hey Wedgie - If you're referring to Kessel, that's you you're talking about. The rest of Leafs fans are glad he's gone, and happy for him fitting into the right role in Pittsburgh.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 1:58 PM ET
killer miller had a shut out last night
SABRES 89
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 18 @ 1:58 PM ET
killer miller had a shut out last night
- homiedclown

you mean the guy you always make fun of
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
you mean the guy you always make fun of
- SABRES 89

yup

average goalie
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
most people hated vanek here...couldn't wait 'til he was gone...now the sabres should have signed him?
- Michael Pachla


For the record..

I always liked Vanek.
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jan 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 2:00 PM ET
Hey Wedgie - If you're referring to Kessel, that's you you're talking about. The rest of Leafs fans are glad he's gone, and happy for him fitting into the right role in Pittsburgh.
- 1979AD

if you could get kessell back for a 1st and a blah prospect


would you do it as a leaf fan?

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 2:01 PM ET
For the record..

I always liked Vanek.

- feetontheair22

vanek went down the road most sabres do in my book


love them til they get paid, and they are a fraction of the player they were before getting paid
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 2:02 PM ET

- Khmylev

SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 18 @ 2:02 PM ET
yup

average goalie

- homiedclown

opinions vary
SABRES 89
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Jan 18 @ 2:03 PM ET

- Khmylev

Still drunk
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 18 @ 2:03 PM ET

- homiedclown


You should spend more time getting to know the poster who uses the handle "BeadyEyedDouche"



PS, thats a pretty small square.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jan 18 @ 2:04 PM ET
vanek went down the road most sabres do in my book


love them til they get paid, and they are a fraction of the player they were before getting paid

- homiedclown


Did his lackadaisical style piss me off some nights? Yes. But on the whole, he was the player on the Sabres who I most thought "he has the puck...he is probably going to score."

And we havn't had that until Eichel showed up. I wanted to sign him this offseason, tell him to just sit on Eichel's wing, and snipe.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 18 @ 2:04 PM ET
I'm just here to be a non-sport playing dweeb.
- jochfr

Why don't you get off your computer and play a sport.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
if you could get kessell back for a 1st and a blah prospect


would you do it as a leaf fan?

- homiedclown


No. They would need to shore up the D before looking for a high priced scoring winger. Despite the success so far this season, this Leafs team still has a ways to go before they can think about moving draft picks for that last piece to put them over the edge.

The 1st they got from Pitt was flipped for Freddie Andersen, and that blah prospect is still only 20 years old and an AHL all star.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
You should spend more time getting to know the poster who uses the handle "BeadyEyedDouche"



PS, thats a pretty small square.

- Der Kaiser

I just typed creepy old guy and he showed up


I typed creepy old guy named ray, he also showed up
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:05 PM ET

- Khmylev

Thought Rodney Dangerfield was dead...
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
You should spend more time getting to know the poster who uses the handle "BeadyEyedDouche"



PS, thats a pretty small square.

- Der Kaiser


jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:06 PM ET
Why don't you get off your computer and play a sport.
- Mentalorgasm5

I'm disabled...

Edit: Or differently abled.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
I don't take it as a slight - I can't understand how you are missing the point.

As we sit, the franchise must manage the contracts - the deals are done and on our books. So the question isn't whether we could have done better at the time, the question is how is it hurting us now, and can we prevent it from hurting us in the future.

If we presume an owner that is committed to spending up to the cap, the Bogo money is only hurting us if it has already prevented us from signing a better player. I can't identify an instance of that occuring - if you can please let me know.

In the future, the Bogo money will only hurt us if the prevents us from signing another player - and I say that proper cap management will permit us to skirt that possibility in other ways.

The upshot of all my observations in this regard is that the contract may not have great "value" to use your word - but that it doesn't hurt the teams record or standings in the league until it prevents the team from signing better talent (and to repeat, I don't think it has done so).

- Der Kaiser



Okay now i understand what you were trying to stay that took me a minute
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