He's a top 4 guy....

And JVR is by no means a top LW.... Sure he could be a top line player on half/most NHL teams... but hes not an elite LWer...

Contract and location wise it makes sense. You're going to have to overpay no matter what. If Chicago is calling Lou about JVR maybe they're willing to add a bit more.. I just think he's a perfect fit. A little younger would be nice.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

He's 6th in the NHL scoring race for left wingers.

He has 3 fewer points than Ovi, with 2 fewer games played.

I hate his stupid twirly move.

I hate how he refuses to use his size.

I hate how he chews his mouthguard.

But he's an elite winger. It's time for Toronto fans to quit hating our best players (and worshiping Komarov).

(frank)in 5 pm somewhere..
- bixll

Exactly!

The same Oilers that are 4th in the difficult west?

It's impossible to compare defenseman worth to a forward..

I think you guys are under-rating Hjalmarsson a tad and possibly overrating JVR? He is playing with the Magician after all... His trade value will never be higher and if we keep him he's getting 6-7mil.. Hjalmarsson would command maybe 5mil when his contract is up. If he walks we get nothing.. its inevitable hes getting traded, for who i dont really care i just really like Hjalmarssons game and so do Hawks fans..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Yeah...and Hjarlmasonn is playing with Kieth on a great Chicago team. Goes both ways

After trying to come up with 10 names better than him.....

Yeah he's borderline top 10.
- Scabeh

Ovie, Benn, Marchand, Hall, Forsberg, MaxiPad, Panarin, Gaudreau.

In time add Drouin, but he's not there yet.

After trying to come up with 10 names better than him.....

Yeah he's borderline top 10.
- Scabeh

Zetterberg
Laine
Hall
Patches
Benn
Ovi
Marchand
Panarin
D Sedin
Drouin

he'd be around 10th...

He's 6th in the NHL scoring race for left wingers.

He has 3 fewer points than Ovi, with 2 fewer games played.

I hate his stupid twirly move.

I hate how he refuses to use his size.

I hate how he chews his mouthguard.

But he's an elite winger. It's time for Toronto fans to quit hating our best players (and worshiping Komarov).
- Atomic Wedgie

You are still felling BAD we see..

Yeah...and Hjarlmasonn is playing with Kieth on a great Chicago team. Goes both ways
- Santo_44

fair enough

After trying to come up with 10 names better than him.....

Yeah he's borderline top 10.
- Scabeh

so do you have him rated higher or lower the Patches?

I kill myself.

After trying to come up with 10 names better than him.....

Yeah he's borderline top 10.
- Scabeh

Hall
Benn
Marchand
Forsberg
Ovechkin
Saad
Drouin
Gaudreau
Schwartz
Burakowski
Landeskog
Domi

are guys probably pegged as better LW than JVR.
however, I do agree he's a good (fringe) top10-top15 LW.

Didn't even take into count Parise, Sharp etc. in there.

Hall
Benn
Marchand
Forsberg
Ovechkin
Saad
Drouin
Gaudreau
Schwartz
Burakowski
Landeskog
Domi

are guys probably pegged as better LW than JVR.
however, I do agree he's a good (fringe) top10-top15 LW.

Didn't even take into count Parise, Sharp etc. in there.
- MaximusAurelius

Umm.. Panarin and Laine???

my list is better


and half those guys are not better than JVR..

He's 6th in the NHL scoring race for left wingers.

He has 3 fewer points than Ovi, with 2 fewer games played.

I hate his stupid twirly move.

I hate how he refuses to use his size.

I hate how he chews his mouthguard.

But he's an elite winger. It's time for Toronto fans to quit hating our best players (and worshiping Komarov).
- Atomic Wedgie

I believe that the leafs might want to explore what it would take to resign jvr?but can kappy (healthy )fill that spot? Can they get a dman without jvr included

You are still felling BAD we see..
- bixll

No idea why the frank I came into the office today.

Other than a meeting at 4:00, I won't be doing a minute of work today.

You know that feeling that you are under water?

That's me. Under 100 feet of water.

He's 6th in the NHL scoring race for left wingers.

He has 3 fewer points than Ovi, with 2 fewer games played.

I hate his stupid twirly move.

I hate how he refuses to use his size.

I hate how he chews his mouthguard.

But he's an elite winger. It's time for Toronto fans to quit hating our best players (and worshiping Komarov).
- Atomic Wedgie

You love Uncle Leo...stop pretending you don't.

He's 6th in the NHL scoring race for left wingers.

He has 3 fewer points than Ovi, with 2 fewer games played.

I hate his stupid twirly move.

I hate how he refuses to use his size.

I hate how he chews his mouthguard.

But he's an elite winger. It's time for Toronto fans to quit hating our best players (and worshiping Komarov).
- Atomic Wedgie

there you go! nicely said.

I actually think the way to view it is to ask yourself on a team by team basis... would he be the best left winger...

on Anaheim - yes
on Minnesota - yes
etc..

No idea why the frank I came into the office today.

Other than a meeting at 4:00, I won't be doing a minute of work today.

You know that feeling that you are under water?

That's me. Under 100 feet of water.
- Atomic Wedgie

this should help..

(how could it not, EMILY )

this should help..

(how could it not, EMILY )


- Arctic_AARDVARK

I like this band.

Umm.. Panarin and Laine???

my list is better


and half those guys are not better than JVR..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Landy has 15 points and is -10 this year.. Drouin has a lot to prove, not even the best winger on his team.

No idea why the frank I came into the office today.

Other than a meeting at 4:00, I won't be doing a minute of work today.

You know that feeling that you are under water?

That's me. Under 100 feet of water.
- Atomic Wedgie

Why go in then?? Go home..

Landy has 15 points and is -10 this year.. Drouin has a lot to prove, not even the best winger on his team.
- bixll

Exactly. Drouin is having a good season...about as good as Nylander's rookie season. BOOOOOM

Hall
Benn
Marchand
Forsberg
Ovechkin
Saad
Drouin
Gaudreau
Schwartz
Burakowski
Landeskog
Domi

are guys probably pegged as better LW than JVR.
however, I do agree he's a good (fringe) top10-top15 LW.

Didn't even take into count Parise, Sharp etc. in there.
- MaximusAurelius

not to be anal about this... but a bunch of these guys are centers, and a bunch are just not better than JvR period.

seriously Druin?

Exactly. Drouin is having a good season...about as good as Nylander's rookie season. BOOOOOM
- AdamFrench

Marner has the same points as Laine.. Kids have far more to prove.. Before they are named to the top 10 in the NHL..

Very subjective anyway.

I like this band.
- Garnie

Metric is in my top 5 all time fav bands...

Why go in then?? Go home..
- bixll

It's stupid - I was raised that if you could get out of bed, you went to school.

Which is kinda bizarre, because my dad was a principal and my mom was a teacher/vice-principal - you'd think that they would want kids to stay home if they were sick.

But I had that drummed into me as a child, and I can't shake it.

I probably average 1.5 days off for sickness a year.

I I fully admit I'm being an idiot - it would be much better for me to stay home today and arrive tomorrow at 100%, than linger here and do nothing, and show up tomorrow still feeling like crap.

Yet here I am, sitting at my desk. I'll bet my office smells like death.

not to be anal about this... but a bunch of these guys are centers, and a bunch are just not better than JvR period.

seriously Druin?
- BorjeFan4Ever

Here's who the NHL feels are left wingers:

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...sort=points,goals,assists

And yes, sometimes the NHL gets it wrong.

It's stupid - I was raised that if you could get out of bed, you went to school.

Which is kinda bizarre, because my dad was a principal and my mom was a teacher/vice-principal - you'd think that they would want kids to stay home if they were sick.

But I had that drummed into me as a child, and I can't shake it.

I probably average 1.5 days off for sickness a year.

I I fully admit I'm being an idiot - it would be much better for me to stay home today and arrive tomorrow at 100%, than linger here and do nothing, and show up tomorrow still feeling like crap.

Yet here I am, sitting at my desk. I'll bet my office smells like death.
- Atomic Wedgie

The co-workers that you make sick today are going to be sooooo (frank)in glad you were the brave man that went to work today..


Just sayin.