Still didn't answer the question
- .HOHO.

She drinks Whiskey.. On the rocks..

I think that the coverage of him has made many things overblown.

There seems to be sufficient evidence that he is both a narcissist and an idiot however.
- lumlums

I don't believe that he is an idiot.

More importantly, I think that "the left" (of which I am a proud member) have done an absolutely horrible job of presenting an alternative vision to Trump supporters.

I think Anthony Bourdain put it pretty well:

http://news.nationalpost....ass-america-for-trump-win

When Meryl Streep stands up and calls anyone who likes football or MMA an idiot, well, that's not going to win a lot of votes in the heartland. The left needs to shut up, grow up, and figure out how to appeal to a large portion of the US electorate who feel they have been left behind.

Getting lectures from Hollywood millionaires about how stupid they are isn't going to do it.

Still didn't answer the question
- .HOHO.

My wife buys it and I drink it. I really don't drink all that much, wine, occasional beer etc.. Mostly sparkling water.

good to know.. thats true for a lot of things now.. theres like a hundred animal species that we are forcing to mate and artificially inseminate because they wouldnt survive anymore.

We had this big beautiful planet with everything we would ever need to survive.. we've done a piss poor job of maintaining it.. dancing with the stars and Orville redenbacher is just to sweet of a deal to pretend to give a poop about it.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Over-population is the scourge of this planet. People that fight ALL genetic engineering don't realize that most of the world would die of starvation without it.

Well, when you take the poor animals and put them in a zoo what do you expect? Poor Percy panda has self-esteem issues and performance anxiety like you wouldn't believe, and that's even before all these (frank)ers that are looking at him while he's trying to work his magic!!!
- lumlums

If zoos put more effort into finding kinky animals to incarcerate, this wouldn't be a problem

Mushrooms, man. If you want to be blown away by somethings evolution, complexity and genetic intelligence read up on fungi. (frank)ing mushrooms.

Those bastards can adapt to their environment, essentially evolving, in the manner that it would take humans thousands of years or more to do. (frank) lizards, mushrooms run the world.
- markmark

this is true..

i saw this thing on green or yellow slime the other day... it thrives in cold dark places and has for hundreds of millions of years..

Your earlier Trump comment now makes a lot more sense.
- 1979AD

so you think the scientific method is actually taught in gov't run village schools?

ya but we have to keep raping the planet in order to maintain our rate of economic growth for all eternity
- TheMussel

at this rate we better find some new planets to inhabit then...

so you think the scientific method is actually taught in gov't run village schools?
- kaptaan

I don't decide that it's not without knowing whether it is or not.

Well, when you take the poor animals and put them in a zoo what do you expect? Poor Percy panda has self-esteem issues and performance anxiety like you wouldn't believe, and that's even before all these (frank)ers that are looking at him while he's trying to work his magic!!!
- lumlums

hahaha

while others seem to enjoy the spotlight

i have no issues with people cross breeding plants. Plants are crossbred to introduce traits/genes from one variety or line into a new genetic background. This is done without any gene level modifications introducing genes from an unrelated plant or animal into the genes of the target.

plant breeding was done with similar plants and varieties to get different traits together from the same kind of plant.
- kaptaan

This is basically the premise behind GMOs, but taking the random chance out of everything. When people are starving and you want to create drought-resistant crops for instance, you really don't have as much time to Richard about with this as ol' Gary Gardener who is trying to grow the largest pumpkin at the county fair does...

There's an excellent book that I recommend for anybody called "Good Calories, bad calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science of Diet and Health"

https://www.amazon.com/Go...ial-Science/dp/1400033462

It's a summation of years of peer reviewed science into how food affects our body (that is to say the hormal, chemical and biological changes that happen as a result of ingesting certain types of foods) and is written for the non-scientific audience. I'd suggest anybody with even the slightest desire to be more informed to have a read - most libraries should have it if you don't want to buy it.
- lumlums

and beer is on the good list right?

I don't decide that it's not without knowing whether it is or not.
- 1979AD

some things can be deduced... for example. zero scientific method being taught in aleppo, yemen, etc... for the past x number of years.

i have no issues with people cross breeding plants. Plants are crossbred to introduce traits/genes from one variety or line into a new genetic background. This is done without any gene level modifications introducing genes from an unrelated plant or animal into the genes of the target.

plant breeding was done with similar plants and varieties to get different traits together from the same kind of plant.
- kaptaan

yeah no one cares about plants really.. as long as it doesnt throw off the delicate balance of nature..

at this rate we better find some new planets to inhabit then...
- Arctic_AARDVARK

That's the rebuttal of many economists

hahaha

while others seem to enjoy the spotlight
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I don't believe that he is an idiot.

More importantly, I think that "the left" (of which I am a proud member) have done an absolutely horrible job of presenting an alternative vision to Trump supporters.

I think Anthony Bourdain put it pretty well:

http://news.nationalpost....ass-america-for-trump-win

When Meryl Streep stands up and calls anyone who likes football or MMA an idiot, well, that's not going to win a lot of votes in the heartland. The left needs to shut up, grow up, and figure out how to appeal to a large portion of the US electorate who feel they have been left behind.

Getting lectures from Hollywood millionaires about how stupid they are isn't going to do it.
- Atomic Wedgie

She didnt say they were stupid....just that they werent "the arts".

This is basically the premise behind GMOs, but taking the random chance out of everything. When people are starving and you want to create drought-resistant crops for instance, you really don't have as much time to Richard about with this as ol' Gary Gardener who is trying to grow the largest pumpkin at the county fair does...
- lumlums

when they start making plants resistant to Roundup and other pesticides, then its a different story. that's not something that would have or even could have been done naturally.

She drinks Whiskey.. On the rocks..
- bixll

And her name is Steve!

some things can be deduced... for example. zero scientific method being taught in aleppo, yemen, etc... for the past x number of years.
- kaptaan

The context of this conversation is people making informed decisions on their food choices. I don't think people in these places you use as an example are trying to decide between organic and Kraft...

My wife buys it and I drink it. I really don't drink all that much, wine, occasional beer etc.. Mostly sparkling water.
- LeafMan

My wife drinks it to, I find it way too sweet!
I stick mostly to Red wine!

The context of this conversation is people making informed decisions on their food choices. I don't think people in these places you use as an example are trying to decide between organic and Kraft...
- markmark

yeah, but you have people from countries like that migrating here and then they become part of the consumer base making decisions and voting without any kind of equivalent to western education that values logic and rational thought including the scientific method.

yeah no one cares about plants really.. as long as it doesnt throw off the delicate balance of nature..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

It's surprising also that people don't realize how important bees are to the Eco system.

This Leaf thread buzz has been an educational moment brought to you by...The Lums Institute of Learning, the more you know...

I don't believe that he is an idiot.

More importantly, I think that "the left" (of which I am a proud member) have done an absolutely horrible job of presenting an alternative vision to Trump supporters.

I think Anthony Bourdain put it pretty well:

http://news.nationalpost....ass-america-for-trump-win

When Meryl Streep stands up and calls anyone who likes football or MMA an idiot, well, that's not going to win a lot of votes in the heartland. The left needs to shut up, grow up, and figure out how to appeal to a large portion of the US electorate who feel they have been left behind.

Getting lectures from Hollywood millionaires about how stupid they are isn't going to do it.
- Atomic Wedgie

The left needs to demand what it wants, not accept a watered down centerist version of it ALA Hillary Clinton.. If Berny was the nominee i think he would have beat Trump. I wouldnt have voted for Hillary, its just more of the same.. But im a bit of a nihilist and i dont care if the world goes to poop, because we need to hit rock bottom before we rebuild. Kinda like a forest fire.. we need the nutrients to regrow.. Politics is an illusion.

I don't believe that he is an idiot.

More importantly, I think that "the left" (of which I am a proud member) have done an absolutely horrible job of presenting an alternative vision to Trump supporters.

I think Anthony Bourdain put it pretty well:

http://news.nationalpost....ass-america-for-trump-win

When Meryl Streep stands up and calls anyone who likes football or MMA an idiot, well, that's not going to win a lot of votes in the heartland. The left needs to shut up, grow up, and figure out how to appeal to a large portion of the US electorate who feel they have been left behind.

Getting lectures from Hollywood millionaires about how stupid they are isn't going to do it.
- Atomic Wedgie

I do - not for lack of intelligence, but more for the absolute certainty that he has in himself and his own opinion. There are definitely different types of intelligence, and I believe that there are different kinds of idiocy as well.

That said, Bourdain is spot on - the problem is that almost any person who is in a position to be running for government is going to appear aloof and isolated to people who are more worried about whether they can put food on their table this coming month, and who have much more to worry about than whatever cause is the new fad to represent. Trump capitalized on that, and won because of it.