Avs fans. Here is a Hypothetical trade for you. Let's say Buffalo wins the #1 over all pick.

Would you trade the following players for the First overall Pick, AND Matt Moulson?

Gabriel Landeskog
Mikko Rantanen
Chris Bigras
and JT Compher back


Remember its a Hypothetical if Buffalo won the first overall pick. This means the Avs would have the #1 Pick and either #2, 3 or 4. Thats a lot of high picks in the first round.
- danwest58

nope. the Top 4, even if its nolan patrick, isnt worth sacrificing the Avs best prospect talent and then taking on a bad player and contract in Matt Moulson that limits their ability to add pieces in UFA.

Thats just a terrible proposal, very Garth like fantasy land

It just seems crazy to me that Duchene would be available. I dont care if it isnt a specific need, every team should be in on him.

If I'm the Pens I offer Maata, Sprong, Sundquist and a 1st for Duchene. If they can get rid of Fleury's salary I would go back to them for Beauchemin to fill Maata's spot.

It would be amazing to have Crosby, Malkin and Duchene as your 3 centers. Pens would obviously be very shallow on defence but id take a shot.

nope. the Top 4, even if its nolan patrick, isnt worth sacrificing the Avs best prospect talent and then taking on a bad player and contract in Matt Moulson that limits their ability to add pieces in UFA.

Thats just a terrible proposal
- DDM-Coga

What if it is just?

Gabriel Landeskog
Chris Bigras
JT Compher

You cannot expect a #1 overall pick to go for free just because you get a bad contract for 2 years next year and the year after that.

What if it is just?

Gabriel Landeskog
Chris Bigras
JT Compher back
- danwest58

NOOOOOOOOO.

Avs need depth and D. So moving their penciled in 3C, who has great chemistry with AJ Greer and are looking like the real deals in teh AHL, avs top D prospect, and their captain for a bad draft year top pick and Matt moulson?

Come on man, be better.

Would you trade McCabe,O'Reilly,Baptiste for the 1st overall and carl soderberg?

- dr_soiledpants

ahh gotcha, so Sens not great at developing prospects even though like Chabot...both Lazar and Ceci played with their respected junior teams at 19 years old.

Just when they leave junior they stink, funny how that happens
- DDM-Coga

He goes from playing for the Oil Kings 1 year being drafted to playing with the Sens. He looked solid - jumping over the AHL and all the players that could of made the team in camp - then months later he captained that WJC team. He played another good year but should have been sent down and scoring a lot in the AHL rather than being a 20 point NHL'er.

Lazar is heavier than Neil. Sens didn't fail to develop prospects but they tried to be competitive too quickly; also lacked the blue chips that quickly transition to the NHL. Dzingel looks great, a lot like Hoffman who were really late picks. Stone the third name you can put there. Sens can turn late picks into NHL players but if you want to talk about horrible development, look at Oilers and Leafs for years. Only now, after top picks, do they have a chance to be contenders.

How high will the Islanders go EK?

He goes from playing for the Oil Kings 1 year being drafted to playing with the Sens. He looked solid - jumping over the AHL and all the players that could of made the team in camp - then months later he captains that WJC team. He played another good year but should have been sent down and scoring a lot in the AHL rather than being a 20 point NHL'er.

Lazar is heavier than Neil. Sens didn't fail to develop prospects but they tried to be competitive too quickly; also lacked the blue chips that quickly transition to the NHL. Dzingel looks great, a lot like Hoffman who were really late picks. Stone the third name you can put there. Sens can turn late picks into NHL players but if you want to talk about horrible development, look at Oilers and Leafs for years. Only now, after top picks, do they have a chance to be contenders.
- AlfieisKing

So in summary, Lazar is junk and ruined by the Sens.
My column

He goes from playing for the Oil Kings 1 year being drafted to playing with the Sens. He looked solid - jumping over the AHL and all the players that could of made the team in camp - then months later he captained that WJC team. He played another good year but should have been sent down and scoring a lot in the AHL rather than being a 20 point NHL'er.

Lazar is heavier than Neil. Sens didn't fail to develop prospects but they tried to be competitive too quickly; also lacked the blue chips that quickly transition to the NHL. Dzingel looks great, a lot like Hoffman who were really late picks. Stone the third name you can put there. Sens can turn late picks into NHL players but if you want to talk about horrible development, look at Oilers and Leafs for years. Only now, after top picks, do they have a chance to be contenders.
- AlfieisKing

Sens aren't contenders.

White and Chabot are solid prospects. Sens won't trade them unless it was a name like Duchene

Sens aren't contenders.
- Tumbleweed

they would need to actually spend money in order to do that,

I do lol.... that's what sports end up being

Whether it's Roy, Gilmour, Alfie, Lafluer ..
- AlfieisKing

One of these things is not like the other, on of these things just doesn't belong...

So in summary, Lazar is junk and ruined by the Sens.
My column
- DDM-Coga

He can still become a solid 3rd liner that plays shutdown and even chip in offensively - MAYbe playing top 6 role - but that's a farther stretch until he regains his confidence (the biggest thing for any hockey player). But yes, mismanaged
Ceci hasn't been. He's just under-performed but no where close to as worried after getting a bridge deal.

Sens aren't contenders.
- Tumbleweed

with anderson returning from his wife having cancer.... adding a significant piece.... and guys playing to the level they can.... they could become contenders. but no, not right now.

One of these things is not like the other, on of these things just doesn't belong...
- LifeLongLeafer

Sundin...Thachuk, Iginla, Thornton. Same diff

One of these things is not like the other, on of these things just doesn't belong...
- LifeLongLeafer

Gilmour?

Sundin...Thachuk, Iginla, Thornton. Same diff
- AlfieisKing

Ok fine. Iginla for Ceci. Deal!

He can still become a solid 3rd liner that plays shutdown and even chip in offensively - MAYbe playing top 6 role - but that's a farther stretch until he regains his confidence (the biggest thing for any hockey player). But yes, mismanaged
Ceci hasn't been. He's just under-performed but no where close to as worried after getting a bridge deal.

with anderson returning from his wife having cancer.... adding a significant piece.... and guys playing to the level they can.... they could become contenders. but no, not right now.
- AlfieisKing

Lazar is a bust and ceci is a dime a dozen dman. Say it man, it will be good to finally admit it

Lazar is a bust and ceci is a dime a dozen dman. Say it man, it will be good to finally admit it
- DDM-Coga

He can't say it if he deletes his account.

im also available at the right price
- DDM-Coga

a foot long sub eh!.

He can't say it if he deletes his account.
- Symba007

He can stay if he admits that he's been terrible at judging players and that ceci and lazar are draft busts

Remember when they wouldn't trade ceci for drouin

NOOOOOOOOO.

Avs need depth and D. So moving their penciled in 3C, who has great chemistry with AJ Greer and are looking like the real deals in teh AHL, avs top D prospect, and their captain for a bad draft year top pick and Matt moulson?

Come on man, be better.

Would you trade McCabe,O'Reilly,Baptiste for the 1st overall and carl soderberg?
- DDM-Coga

McCabe is a #2 Defensemen now or showing he will be here very soon. He is not Prospect Like Chris Bigras is and who has also seen 31 NHL Games to 129 with Jake McCabe. So that is a poopty comparison. Your better comparison would be Brendan Guhle who has only played 3 NHL but has shown that he is on the cusp of making the NHL.

Second O'Reilly is also not a good comparison because he is a Center, a Better comparison is Kyle Okposo because he is a winger and so is Gabriel Landeskog. Also Okposo is .69 Point Per Game Production and Landeskog is .67 Point per game

Baptiste is fine comparison to Compher because they are going to be good top 9 forwards 2nd to 3rd line players. Just one is a winger one is a center.



So if you did Guhle, Okposo and Baptiste for a Number 1 pick overall who is a Center and is likely going to be one of the top 10 centers in the league if not possible top 5 at some point in his career. These players do not come a long often. You cannot trade for a Towes, or a Stamakos you get them through the draft. That is why they are so hard to trade for. Nolan Patrick if he was not injured this year would be dominated in the WHL with over his 1.41 points per game.

like how you guys developed lazar and ceci?
- DDM-Coga

or Matt Puempel. Oh wait, he's not on the team.

Avs fans. Here is a Hypothetical trade for you. Let's say Buffalo wins the #1 over all pick.

Would you trade the following players for the First overall Pick, AND Matt Moulson?

Gabriel Landeskog
Mikko Rantanen
Chris Bigras
and JT Compher back


Remember its a Hypothetical if Buffalo won the first overall pick. This means the Avs would have the #1 Pick and either #2, 3 or 4. Thats a lot of high picks in the first round.
- danwest58

Buffalo would need to retain $$

I think JVR to St Louis makes sense. ....Not sure they are going to trade him back to the team they got him from when they are battling that team for a playoff spot. The most likely scenario is ,JVR stays put and grows with this team for at least the rest of this season. The draft and off-season brings plenty of trade options.

Leafs will package Leipsic / shoshnikov maybe Komorov for some D help at the deadline

Leafs 5. Sabers 4