it wouldn't be impossible, especially with salary retention. Even if it is just to put him in the AHL while Stolarz is on the Flyers.

Either way, it isnt a move im clamoring for. I think they have better decisions they could make right now and also think they will be better once the realize where they are at after the bye
- YuenglingJagr

It was just a wild hair brained idea after seeing they recalled Pavelec due to the issues with the two kids.

I'm not trading one of our two yet. We need to use the next month and a half to sort that position out though and then dump one I feel.

It was just a wild hair brained idea after seeing they recalled Pavelec due to the issues with the two kids.

I'm not trading one of our two yet. We need to use the next month and a half to sort that position out though and then dump one I feel.
- dragonoffrost

I would like to find a deal like the Rangers made. They moved a solid core guy to get a young possible breakout guy in Zibanejad. It was a move made for the now but also the future.

The problem is what core player would you move in that type of deal.

Everyone would like that.

Just saying your either going to give up big stuff to get Trouba or your taking back a bad contract from the team in the deal. Plus unless they want Stolarz with the big club your most likely bringing a goalie back in the deal.
- J35Bacher

AMac and Mason for Pavelec and Trouba. We can throw in Provorov.

Wait, what?

I would like to find a deal like the Rangers made. They moved a solid core guy to get a young possible breakout guy in Zibanejad. It was a move made for the now but also the future.

The problem is what core player would you move in that type of deal.
- J35Bacher

There arent a ton of teams looking to actively make their team worse to save a few million

AMac and Mason for Pavelec and Trouba. We can throw in Provorov.

Wait, what?
- jmatchett383

the Blues got Miller and Ott from Buffalo for Halak, Stewart, William Carrier, 1st round pick and 3rd round pick.

Mason doesn't have the pedigree which Miller had but you can kind of guess what might come back in a deal. Proably not a 1st rounder but maybe Pavelec, 3rd rounder and b level prospect?

I don't know.

I would like to find a deal like the Rangers made. They moved a solid core guy to get a young possible breakout guy in Zibanejad. It was a move made for the now but also the future.

The problem is what core player would you move in that type of deal.
- J35Bacher

Palat or Tatar? Those guys are RFA at the end of the season and both Tampa and Detroit are slightly in cap issues?

There arent a ton of teams looking to actively make their team worse to save a few million
- YuenglingJagr

Well Ottawa thought Brassard would give a better chance to be playoff team.

It's a tough deal to find.

Well Ottawa thought Brassard would give a better chance to be playoff team.

It's a tough deal to find.
- J35Bacher

uhhhh...that is at least what they told people

Instead of teaching my son anything myself, I am just going to have him watch Westworld
- YuenglingJagr

Yeah it's not been real pretty since the lockout, especially when you compare it to prior to 2005.

67-68 to 03-04: 37 seasons
only missed the playoffs 7 times
went to the "final four" 14 times
7 Cup final appearances
2 Stanley Cups

05-06 to today: 11 seasons and counting
missed the playoffs 3 times (could very well be 4 after this year)
"final four" appearances: 2 (none since 2010)
Finals: 1 (none since 2010)
Cups: 0

So far, the cap era has not been so hot.
- BiggE

Yikes that is not so pretty in black and white...

Instead of teaching my son anything myself, I am just going to have him watch Westworld
- YuenglingJagr

I've legitimately broached the subject of allowing my daughter to watch some more adult shows/movies, but my wife won't go for Ren & Stimpy even. Which, granted, is a pretty wild show.

But I find that using movies/TV shows that she likes are a good way to reinforce certain things that we try to teach her, such as why it's important to be nice, why you should always use the potty, why to not judge people by their looks, etc.

uhhhh...that is at least what they told people
- YuenglingJagr

Well eventually you have to at least make a push.

That's why I feel you'll see Edmonton deal at the TDL. They have to at least make a push for the playoffs for once. Can't continue to sell patience. I actually think you could see them move Jesse Puljujarvi in an effort to get a top 4 defender.

I love Wayne, but he just doesn't have the ridiculously quick release that Kerr had. They are 2 very different types of players.
- BiggE

True Kerr's hands were sick and quick...I guess I'm saying at least a reasonable facsimile there of...Maybe Wayne a bit higher in the slot then down on the goal line.

Well eventually you have to at least make a push.

That's why I feel you'll see Edmonton deal at the TDL. They have to at least make a push for the playoffs for once. Can't continue to sell patience. I actually think you could see them move Jesse Puljujarvi in an effort to get a top 4 defender.
- J35Bacher

they traded him to save money is what I am saying

they traded him to save money is what I am saying
- YuenglingJagr

Yeah.

I mean I could see that. But I am not sure he is going to get a ton more then what Brassard is already making.

I agree completely that we need more out of Giroux, and his defensive effort lately is inexcusable. With that said, I'd be willing to bet that if a stronger team was put around Giroux, we'd get more out of him. He's just no longer a player that can put a team on his back and carry them, but I bet he could still be a top player on a good team.
- MJL

Shoot, if Giroux was on another team he'd come back and have a few four point nights against us and look like the second coming of Rocket Richard...but probably still really lazy on the backcheck...

I've legitimately broached the subject of allowing my daughter to watch some more adult shows/movies, but my wife won't go for Ren & Stimpy even. Which, granted, is a pretty wild show.

But I find that using movies/TV shows that she likes are a good way to reinforce certain things that we try to teach her, such as why it's important to be nice, why you should always use the potty, why to not judge people by their looks, etc.
- jmatchett383

Show her The Matrix

Yeah.

I mean I could see that. But I am not sure he is going to get a ton more then what Brassard is already making.
- J35Bacher

Yeah I think it was a stupid move. Could either do a bridge or sign him to a backloaded contract

Flyers recent D-zone coverage has almost brought me to tears...

Seriously? Do you know him personally? That guy is one of the top 5 hockey players in the world!
- aantny88

Even when trying to win I have my limits.

He, or possibly Stolarz, who has played well, but sparingly. But yes, right now, their best bet is Mason. But if he continues to falter, and Neuvirth stays the same, I'd give Stolarz a look.
- jmatchett383

I think you give it another month or so, and if the goalie situation is still the same then you promote Stolarz and give him regular starts over the last six weeks. That's what the Pens did with Murray last season.

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=91683

I get that we are all pining for a cup. I've been to both Phillies parades and the sixers one in 83 but no sport has my love like hockey and I want to see a cup win in my adult life BAD. I just know what hasn't worked so I am going to be patient while Hextall tries to fix this team and builds it for the long run
- nastyflyergirl

Being born and raised in LA, as a 10 year old I fell in love with the Flyers as the only coverage in the LA Times was the Bullies pounding people to a bloody pulp, great black and white images...
I worry now though after many years of hope and near misses and an utter hate for all things LA sports even the Queens/lakers/dudgers during their runs,
I'm now worried that I'm closer to a dirt nap then a Stanley Cup...

Shoot, if Giroux was on another team he'd come back and have a few four point nights against us and look like the second coming of Rocket Richard...but probably still really lazy on the backcheck...
- konalover711

Every time that the Flyers face off against a former player, he has a great game against them. This never happens to other teams, and the Flyers never have players that score against their former teams.

I hate how we got lit up by Carter and Hartnell in our games against LA and Columbus.

I think you give it another month or so, and if the goalie situation is still the same then you promote Stolarz and give him regular starts over the last six weeks. That's what the Pens did with Murray last season.

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=91683
- Feanor

Wasnt long after they fired their coach

Wasnt long after they fired their coach
- YuenglingJagr

Fired their coach called up the goalie the new coach used in the AHL...


OH NOES!